Dormady will give Dobbs a run for his money, immediately ~ Brad Shepard

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MWAVolfan said:
Ferguson was beating out Dobbs based on performance but the will to compete was obviously lacking based ont he fact that he just quit. He didnt quit because he could not beat out Dobbs. He quit because Jones wasnt going to give him the starting job over Worley who, all else being equal, had the experience even though all indications from camp and the O&W game was that none of them were particularly good. Worley was anointed the leader for the starting job based on reps with the first team and experience.
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So in camp none of them were good, but Rf was beating Dobbs? People just ignored the bad things that came out like Ferguson's multiple turnovers. He was getting beat by Dobbs and Worley and ran away. They were all pretty close but his turnover prone nature was too much to overcome. We saw it in the O&W game. Dobbs and Worley were starting to separate from the pack and he knew it.
 
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Dormandy hasn't even played his senior season of high school and missed his Junior season. Its a little early to be talking about challenging a Jr in college next year. A few good showings at camps are just that, showings at camps.
And for the record, I am not yet sold on Dobbs. He is smart but how is that translating to the playing field? Lets give it another year or two to sort that out.
 
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xpsyclonex2002 said:
Dormandy hasn't even played his senior season of high school and missed his Junior season. Its a little early to be talking about challenging a Jr in college next year. A few good showings at camps are just that, showings at camps.
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Talent shows through.
 
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k-town_king said:
So in camp none of them were good, but Rf was beating Dobbs? People just ignored the bad things that came out like Ferguson's multiple turnovers. He was getting beat by Dobbs and Worley and ran away. They were all pretty close but his turnover prone nature was too much to overcome. We saw it in the O&W game. Dobbs and Worley were starting to separate from the pack and he knew it.
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I'm not ignoring the bad things about Ferguson. Go look at my post history. I've been just as critical about all three QBs. I am also not ignoring that Dobbs also had questionable decision making blunders and is known for a weaker arm and inaccurate passing. Now, the other two suck almost as bad, but Worley was clearly going to win out on experience alone and even though Ferguson made mistakes, he was the better pure QB (again that is relative to the others).
 
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MWAVolfan said:
I'm not ignoring the bad things about Ferguson. Go look at my post history. I've been just as critical about all three QBs. I am also not ignoring that Dobbs also had questionable decision making blunders and is known for a weaker arm and inaccurate passing. Now, the other two suck almost as bad, but Worley was clearly going to win out on experience alone and even though Ferguson made mistakes, he was the better pure QB (again that is relative to the others).
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Did you watch the spring game? Ferguson was horrible compared to Dobbs. Anyways... Done arguing. You'll see that Dobbs won't be a wide eyed freshman who's still learning the offense next time he plays. Not to mention the WRs he has now are markedly better. Don't forget North didn't even play the Vandy game.
 
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MWAVolfan said:
I'm not ignoring the bad things about Ferguson. Go look at my post history. I've been just as critical about all three QBs. I am also not ignoring that Dobbs also had questionable decision making blunders and is known for a weaker arm and inaccurate passing. Now, the other two suck almost as bad, but Worley was clearly going to win out on experience alone and even though Ferguson made mistakes, he was the better pure QB (again that is relative to the others).
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How was a qb that completed almost 60% of passes as a true freshman vs several top ten teams known for inaccurate passes? People chose what narrative they wanted to believe based on emotion instead of facts. How do you know Rf was a better pure qb? Because he supposedly threw it down the field a little farther? It doesn't matter if you throw it 70 yards in the air when you are turnover prone. Butch always said he had too many bad TOs but people ignored it that wanted Rf no matter what.
 
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mitzustu said:
Did you watch the spring game? Ferguson was horrible compared to Dobbs. Anyways... Done arguing. You'll see that Dobbs won't be a wide eyed freshman who's still learning the offense next time he plays. Not to mention the WRs he has now are markedly better. Don't forget North didn't even play the Vandy game.
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We'll see I guess. But I have no clue where your basis for those statements come from. Certainly not from his play or from anything the coaching staff has indicated about him.

Dobbs is probably a career backup or at the best a placeholder until a better QB can take the reigns at UT. If you cant beat out Worley, who is one of the worst UT starting QBs of the last 25 years, you are probably not that good, even if you are just a true freshman.

For the record, I hope I am wrong. I hope he tears it up and becomes the breakout player of the SEC. But he has to prove that to me first. I wont be caught singing the praises of a false savior.
 
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k-town_king said:
How was a qb that completed almost 60% of passes as a true freshman vs several top ten teams known for inaccurate passes? People chose what narrative they wanted to believe based on emotion instead of facts. How do you know Rf was a better pure qb? Because he supposedly threw it down the field a little farther? It doesn't matter if you throw it 70 yards in the air when you are turnover prone. Butch always said he had too many bad TOs but people ignored it that wanted Rf no matter what.
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I said it about Worley and I'll say it about Dobbs too. Its much easier to achieve 60% when you dont throw it more than 5 yards at a time. That's what UTs offence degenerated into last year. We couldnt score because the dang QBs wouldnt throw the ball more than 5 yards and when they did, that's where the inaccuracies came into play. That goes for Worley and Dobbs. Ferguson had bad interceptions because he actually threw the ball. The same thing would have happened to the others if Jones wasnt so conservative with the offense. He knew what I'm talking about. 3 and out 3 and out 3 and out.
 
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MWAVolfan said:
I said it about Worley and I'll say it about Dobbs too. Its much easier to achieve 60% when you dont throw it more than 5 yards at a time. That's what UTs offence degenerated into last year. We couldnt score because the dang QBs wouldnt throw the ball more than 5 yards and when they did, that's where the inaccuracies came into play. That goes for Worley and Dobbs. Ferguson had bad interceptions because he actually threw the ball. The same thing would have happened to the others if Jones wasnt so conservative with the offense. He knew what I'm talking about. 3 and out 3 and out 3 and out.
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Worley only completed 52% vs SEC teams as a Jr. Dobbs 59.5% as a true freshman. Pretty accurate. The one time people really saw RF he threw turnovers. Butch said during spring he had the strongest arm but gave up too many big turnovers. He proved it was true.
 
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MWAVolfan said:
We'll see I guess. But I have no clue where your basis for those statements come from. Certainly not from his play or from anything the coaching staff has indicated about him.

Dobbs is probably a career backup or at the best a placeholder until a better QB can take the reigns at UT. If you cant beat out Worley, who is one of the worst UT starting QBs of the last 25 years, you are probably not that good, even if you are just a true freshman.

For the record, I hope I am wrong. I hope he tears it up and becomes the breakout player of the SEC. But he has to prove that to me first. I wont be caught singing the praises of a false savior.
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You say you have no clue what he basis his statements on and you are doing the same thing. Your not even making sense. You just keep throwing crap against the wall and hope it sticks.
 
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k-town_king said:
So in camp none of them were good, but Rf was beating Dobbs? People just ignored the bad things that came out like Ferguson's multiple turnovers. He was getting beat by Dobbs and Worley and ran away. They were all pretty close but his turnover prone nature was too much to overcome. We saw it in the O&W game. Dobbs and Worley were starting to separate from the pack and he knew it.
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For one I'm not here to debate Dobbs vs RF, but basing things off one spring game is rather ignorant. Whether or not Dobbs was ahead of RF in terms of depth chart, we'll really never know. I'm taking Worley over Dobbs this year though. If you know anything about football or playing it, you know how bad coaching can change your game. Lest we forget what Worley has endured since he has been here. But, the strides he was making mid season last year was promising.

-On our QB recruits. I really don't know what film you are watching. I honestly do, even though you disagree, think you guys are just dying for a DT qb because you see so many other teams with them. Honestly, I don't think TG is the answer. Would I take him for possibly another position? Yes. No way I'd drop our current QB commits for him, and if we lose him. Oh well.
 
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MWAVolfan said:
We'll see I guess. But I have no clue where your basis for those statements come from. Certainly not from his play or from anything the coaching staff has indicated about him.

Dobbs is probably a career backup or at the best a placeholder until a better QB can take the reigns at UT. If you cant beat out Worley, who is one of the worst UT starting QBs of the last 25 years, you are probably not that good, even if you are just a true freshman.

For the record, I hope I am wrong. I hope he tears it up and becomes the breakout player of the SEC. But he has to prove that to me first. I wont be caught singing the praises of a false savior.
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This is also pretty ignorant. Worley isn't a terrible QB. He's a product of terrible coaching. Dobbs was a true freshman. You think just because he's not the 2nd coming of J. Manziel, Colt McCoy, Vince Young, or J. Winston that he sucks? Yep, pretty ignorant.
 
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bUTchLookin4Dimez said:
This is also pretty ignorant. Worley isn't a terrible QB. He's a product of terrible coaching. Dobbs was a true freshman. You think just because he's not the 2nd coming of J. Manziel, Colt McCoy, Vince Young, or J. Winston that he sucks? Yep, pretty ignorant.
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Glad the sensible posters are surfacing
 
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I think all of Volnation has been awaiting the arrival of the next Peyton Manning and by far Dormady is the closest. I watched some highlights of Dormady and (as stated above) his progressions and decision making seem to be very good. Also, his mechanics and foot work reminds me of Peyton. And, yes, I understand it is highlights but if you focus on the player and not the play, he is impressive.
 
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Jennings is going to keep some people honest when he arrives. The competition should be fun to watch next time around.
 
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volroadwarrior said:
Yeah, you wait on him. Saban doesn't want him, he wanted Dormady. Mahlzahn doesn't want him. CUM doesn't want him. Does his instate schools want him?

Are all of these coaches stupid, or do they know something that we don't know. Hmmmmmm.
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In his defense, unless something has changed, 2 of the 3 coaches you named does want him. But, probably not as quarterback.
 
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bUTchLookin4Dimez said:
This is also pretty ignorant. Worley isn't a terrible QB. He's a product of terrible coaching. Dobbs was a true freshman. You think just because he's not the 2nd coming of J. Manziel, Colt McCoy, Vince Young, or J. Winston that he sucks? Yep, pretty ignorant.
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One of these is not like the others....and it's the one named after a horses child
 
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