Doyel says Kiffin not a jerk

[WA_Vol]

I'm a prick, liar, fraud, clown and dumbass according to your posts today just in this thread alone. Why the **** would you want me to answer a question.


But i'll answer anyway. Thinking is one thing. Being on a public forum posting constant negativity, regarding last year or whatever, is ridiculous, especially if you are acting like a staunch supporter of all things UT.
I don't know how I can make it clearer. Everybody wants to move on and see what happens, but a few of you "supporters" won't allow it.
Never have I argued that I was sure DD can do it. Can it happen? Hope so. Will it? We'll find out.

Yep. I support DD. I expect to see better this fall. If he fails to do so, he will be gone. I will see what happens, then expect to support the next coach on The Hill.

That's been my stance from the beginning. It was that way with PF and Kiffin as well. Those that can't read and like to add their own drama can twist it how you want.

Misery loves company and the same people show up to "support" the same posters. That's even better. How about posters that show more "support" and respect to negative internet posters than they do the current HC of our University. I haven't even thought about it. That's beautiful.

If you want to defend Dooley based on merit, that's great. Let's hear it, what has he done the last 2 years at UT that puts him above criticism here?

Your argument that you need to defend the coach when the coach has own radio show to do that is silly.

 

[JayVols]

Hypothetical:

You are coaching at a major DIA school. You just finished year 1 of a 5 year contract. UT calls, offers you the HC job and a raise. Are you guys saying you would say no? I know my answer. I'm singing Rocky Top as I'm walking out of my final press conference of my old job.

 

[JayVols]

The problem is your need to tell everyone else what is appropriate for them to post. Your straw man argument that you need defend the coach when the coach has own radio show to do that is silly.

If someone believes Dooley is struggling as a head coach at UT what right do you have to tell what they can't post? If you want to defend Dooley based on merit, that's great. Let's hear it, what has he done the last 2 years at UT that puts him above criticism here?

I wanna see this......

 

[allvol123]

Hypothetical:

You are coaching at a major DIA school. You just finished year 1 of a 5 year contract. UT calls, offers you the HC job and a raise. Are you guys saying you would say no? I know my answer. I'm singing Rocky Top as I'm walking out of my final press conference of my old job.

Of course they would all say no. Solid crew of guys in here. All about making everyone happy except for themselves.

 

[JayVols]

Of course they would all say no. Solid crew of guys in here. All about making everyone happy except for themselves.

Yep. That's the warm and fuzzy answer. The cold reality is that if you have 3 losing seasons at that school in a row, I don't think those folks are going to take into consideration that you turned down your dream job to stay. You better look out for yourself because no one else is going to.

 

[Volst53]

I think it's funny that people here think they're apart of the program. The reason for places like this site is to debate and talk about the program, not to tug the line for it.

If Dooley doesn't do his job, people should be on his ass for it. I don't have an issue with someone liking Dooley as a person, but I don't see how one could be thrilled with his coaching aspects at this point in his career.

 

[615 Vol]

Of course they would all say no. Solid crew of guys in here. All about making everyone happy except for themselves.

It's a good thing a solid character like Dooley didn't ditch his team at Louisiana Tech before signing day to take another job...oh wait.

 

[allvol123]

It's a good thing a solid character like Dooley didn't ditch his team at Louisiana Tech before signing day to take another job...oh wait.

Exactly. But he is at UT, so until we fire him or he quits, he is a god.

 

[JayVols]

I think it's funny that people here think they're apart of the program. The reason for places like this site is to debate and talk about the program, not to tug the line for it.

If Dooley doesn't do his job, people should be on his ass for it. I don't have an issue with someone liking Dooley as a person, but I don't see how one could be thrilled with his coaching aspects at this point in his career.

You should be a life coach, bro. Nicely done.

 

[JayVols]

Exactly. But is at UT, so until we fire him or he quits, he is a god.

I agree that Kiffin leaving sucked for UT. I was as mad as anyone except maybe the mattress burners. It was an opportunity that he wanted. He didn't do it out of spite. As it was pointed out, Dooley did the same to LA Tech, but that's ok because he came to UT. Coaching is a profession. These type decisions are business not personal.

 

[chavisut]

Hypothetical:

You are coaching at a major DIA school. You just finished year 1 of a 5 year contract. UT calls, offers you the HC job and a raise. Are you guys saying you would say no? I know my answer. I'm singing Rocky Top as I'm walking out of my final press conference of my old job.

I have Rocky Top playing as I make my way to the podium, while wearing a coonskin cap.

 

[CountVolcula]

I agree that Kiffin leaving sucked for UT. I was as mad as anyone except maybe the mattress burners. It was an opportunity that he wanted. He didn't do it out of spite. As it was pointed out, Dooley did the same to LA Tech, but that's ok because he came to UT. Coaching is a profession. These type decisions are business not personal.

He would have left for Florida last year anyway, if they would have offered. Layla was all Gator. UT wasnt where he/she wanted to be

Just bad luck that USC ran through 18 other candidates before they had to offer Kiffin

 

[allvol123]

I agree that Kiffin leaving sucked for UT. I was as mad as anyone except maybe the mattress burners. It was an opportunity that he wanted. He didn't do it out of spite. As it was pointed out, Dooley did the same to LA Tech, but that's ok because he came to UT. Coaching is a profession. These type decisions are business not personal.

Agree. I viewed it like a really pretty, cool girl that dumped my best friend. I'd hate her for hurting my buddy but when looking at it rationally people need to do what makes them happy.

 

[JayVols]

He would have left for Florida last year anyway, if they would have offered. Layla was all Gator. UT wasnt where he/she wanted to be

Just bad luck that USC ran through 18 other candidates before they had to offer Kiffin

I blame Jack Del Rio. Had Kiffin left for UF, the outrage would be more understandable, imo.

 

[CountVolcula]

I blame Jack Del Rio. Had Kiffin left for UF, the outrage would be more understandable, imo.

It would have been EPIC

 

[JayVols]

Agree. I viewed it like a really pretty, cool girl that dumped my best friend. I'd hate her for hurting my buddy but when looking at it rationally people need to do what makes them happy.

I'm no spring chicken- not ancient but no youngster either, and the realization that life is short and precious has hit me hard the last several years. You better fill what time you have with things that make you the happiest. I can think of nothing more sad than in your final moments being full of regret because you chose other things over happiness. For some, it's money. For others, it's power. Whatever the other choice is, if it comes down to that or happiness, you better choose happiness. I think Kiffin could have carved out a successful and happy life at UT. But, SC was what made him the happiest. Sucks hard for us, but I don't begrudge a man for taking the opportunity to have it all- money, power, but above all what makes him the happiest. We all should be so lucky.

 

[golfballs]

Again, doesn't make it wrong. Not his problem so many people have emotional ties to something like this and they get irrational when they are done "wrong."

Your opinion is obviously in the minority - not just in this fan base. Gregg Doyel is a hell of a guy to align with

 

[allvol123]

I'm no spring chicken- not ancient but no youngster either, and the realization that life is short and precious has hit me hard the last several years. You better fill what time you have with things that make you the happiest. I can think of nothing more sad than in your final moments being full of regret because you chose other things over happiness. For some, it's money. For others, it's power. Whatever the other choice is, if it comes down to that or happiness, you better choose happiness. I think Kiffin could have carved out a successful and happy life at UT. But, SC was what made him the happiest. Sucks hard for us, but I don't begrudge a man for taking the opportunity to have it all- money, power, but above all what makes him the happiest. We all should be so lucky.

You are right on target with all that brother.

 

[allvol123]

Your opinion is obviously in the minority - not just in this fan base. Gregg Doyel is a hell of a guy to align with

You go through life making decisions based on what you think will make the majority agree with you. I will go through life making decisions on what is best for me. I can absolutely deal with that.

 

[JayVols]

It would have been EPIC

I don't even want to think about it if it would have been Bama. That might be justification for giving the fishes in the Tennessee River a "sleeping" partner.

(That's a joke. I know there are some sensitive types here, and I don't think you're one Count. But, you're a cop. That can create a whole bunch of other issues- lol. So to be clear, I am in no way insinuating that it would have been ok to go all Sopranos had this been the case. I'm just not sure if I'm on the jury that I could convict the guy that did. Strong case for justifiable homicide- that's a joke, too)

 

[DarthVisor]

You go through life making decisions based on what you think will make the majority agree with you. I will go through life making decisions on what is best for me. I can absolutely deal with that.

This guy gets it.

 

[JayVols]

You go through life making decisions based on what you think will make the majority agree with you. I will go through life making decisions on what is best for me. I can absolutely deal with that.

Other than your family, not many- if anyone- is going to look out for you. You better look out for yourself. I'm not much of a conformer to psuedo peer pressure either, dude. It's nice if folks agree with you, but it's no deal breaker if they don't. In fact, it takes more courage to stand for what you think is right if you are in the minority than it does to go with the crowd. I may not agree with whatever that is, but I will respect the hell out of a man that stands for what they believe despite the numbers.

 

[golfballs]

You go through life making decisions based on what you think will make the majority agree with you. I will go through life making decisions on what is best for me. I can absolutely deal with that.

And sometimes people will hate you for it.

I dont disagree that going to USC was better for Kiffin. But I also think contracts should mean something. Living by good principles isn't for everyone

 

[JayVols]

And sometimes people will hate you for it.

I dont disagree that going to USC was better for Kiffin. But I also think contracts should mean something. Living by good principles isn't for everyone

I agree except for the backhanded living by principles comment, but Kiffin honored his contract. There was a buyout clause that was in the contract. That amount was paid. Don't get upset because Hamilton was a buffoon in making it such a cheap price.

 

[OmegaVol]

And sometimes people will hate you for it.

I dont disagree that going to USC was better for Kiffin. But I also think contracts should mean something. Living by good principles isn't for everyone

How long is Dooley's contract, I wonder? I think he has another couple o years after this season. Is Tennessee honor-bound to wait that long before making a change? I also strongly think there are a number of programs for which Dooley would leave without hesitation.