Doyel says Kiffin not a jerk

Yeah, they won a bowl game in '08 for the first time in decades. I'm sure they were about to get rid of him.
And Sonny Dykes won a conference championship last year with upperclassmen that DD recruited, btw.

Dykes went 5-7 his first season at La Tech, with all Dooley's players. He didn't have a lot of positives to say about the situation he inherited there either.
 
And then he asked if freshmen can't improve in which I asked did he think that Johnson, Maggitt or even Randolph didn't improve.

The freshmen/sophomore thing was thrown into it because that was essentially our team last year. It was made up of them and you can't expect a team that is that young to be consistent throughout the year. Hell, even Fulmer's Sr laden NFL teams would lay an egg at least once a year.

To which I agreed that AJ and Curt did improve. Not saying that Randolph didn't get better, but I think not at the same rate as the others you mentioned.

What's the issue with anything I said? Is it that it's simply not a glowing post that made every excuse in the book for the things that didn't go right last year? Dang, dude. I never got disrespectful or smartassed, and you go trying to twist everything like I had evil intentions. Smh.

Don't be another guy that thinks that anyone that disagrees with you is being an ass. It was a good discussion between two guys that have different views on the matter....or so I thought.
 
Dykes went 5-7 his first season at La Tech, with all Dooley's players. He didn't have a lot of positives to say about the situation he inherited there either.

Has a coach ever said something postive about the situation they inherit at La Tech? lol
 
Dykes went 5-7 his first season at La Tech, with all Dooley's players. He didn't have a lot of positives to say about the situation he inherited there either.


what exactly did he say


From what I recall, he was talking **** with a couple of SEC coaches about having as good of players on his roster as SEC schools.

If he had some negatives to say about the situation, please share them.
 
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No matter what anyone thinks of Dooley , people can't deny that it was a really tough situation. Where one walks into his dream job , the other walked into a nightmare.

Anyone that does is an idiot. The program wasn't "burnt to the ground" as some say, but it was a difficult situation.
 
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He did and then changed it to a team regression.

No, I never said no freshman improved. You brought them up as an excuse.

BTW, aren't you the guy that suggested that the UT basketball program should have been dismantled because Pearl was forced out?

And you think my views are off.....
 
The fact that Kiffin is still getting ridiculed for taking a better job is funny when you consider the fact that the the "great VFL" Derek Dooley tried his damnedest to get the North Carolina job last summer when Davis was fired. Thing is, UNC is not a better job than Tennessee
 
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No, I never said no freshman improved. You brought them up as an excuse.

BTW, aren't you the guy that suggested that the UT basketball program should have been dismantled because Pearl was forced out?
And you think my views are off.....



Did he say that? Or is that an uncool twist of words.
 
The fact that Kiffin is still getting ridiculed for taking a better job is funny when you consider the fact that the the "great VFL" Derek Dooley tried his damnedest to get the North Carolina job last summer when Davis was fired. Thing is, UNC is not a better job than Tennessee

Please show me the l!nk to this. In fact , I bet you can't find one.


By the way , why is l-i-n-k edited? When I spell it out it looks like this ... ****.
 
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The fact that Kiffin is still getting ridiculed for taking a better job is funny when you consider the fact that the the "great VFL" Derek Dooley tried his damnedest to get the North Carolina job last summer when Davis was fired. Thing is, UNC is not a better job than Tennessee



nothing like some lies from one of the most naive people on this site. Add in a little jab at the HC again, and you have the above.

Keep up the support! You represent TT grads and non alumni fans well.
 
The fact that Kiffin is still getting ridiculed for taking a better job is funny when you consider the fact that the the "great VFL" Derek Dooley tried his damnedest to get the North Carolina job last summer when Davis was fired. Thing is, UNC is not a better job than Tennessee

Still waiting for some proof. :snoring:
 
Perhaps I should have bolded the specific parts I was referring to. You're looking for something that isn't there.

No, I misunderstood you. I thought you didn't think anyone improved when I thought there were a number of players that improved.
 
To which I agreed that AJ and Curt did improve. Not saying that Randolph didn't get better, but I think not at the same rate as the others you mentioned.

What's the issue with anything I said? Is it that it's simply not a glowing post that made every excuse in the book for the things that didn't go right last year? Dang, dude. I never got disrespectful or smartassed, and you go trying to twist everything like I had evil intentions. Smh.

Don't be another guy that thinks that anyone that disagrees with you is being an ass. It was a good discussion between two guys that have different views on the matter....or so I thought.

See above. I wasn't trying to twist words. I thought by you asking if any freshmen/sophomores improved implied that you didn't think any had improved. I saw a number of players that improved.
 
No, I never said no freshman improved. You brought them up as an excuse.

BTW, aren't you the guy that suggested that the UT basketball program should have been dismantled because Pearl was forced out?

And you think my views are off.....

Not an excuse. I'd call that a fact. Name me any other coach that could come in and win with the talent that Dooley inherited and you'd be hard pressed to name many coaches that could've fielded a team that could've won that many games. If you have to rely on freshmen, and starting freshmen at that, you usually are going to struggle. There are years and years of proof of that.

I never said anything remotely close in regards to the hoops program because Pearl was forced out. That was someone else.
 
Not an excuse. I'd call that a fact. Name me any other coach that could come in and win with the talent that Dooley inherited and you'd be hard pressed to name many coaches that could've fielded a team that could've won that many games. If you have to rely on freshmen, and starting freshmen at that, you usually are going to struggle. There are years and years of proof of that.

I never said anything remotely close in regards to the hoops program because Pearl was forced out. That was someone else.

Ok my bad. I'll admit it if I am wrong. We'll just chalk it up to getting wires crossed.

As I stated earlier, I could handle the records better if I truly felt that we were making strides- as a team that is. We'll see what this year brings. Hopefully, I'll be pleasantly surprised.

Later, dude.
 
It was a question not a statement. That little crooked thing with a dot on the bottom of it is important in determining what is going on.



got it. a lot of posters accuse others of posting things when they didn't.

At least you stepped up when you found he didn't.
 
The fact that Kiffin is still getting ridiculed for taking a better job is funny when you consider the fact that the the "great VFL" Derek Dooley tried his damnedest to get the North Carolina job last summer when Davis was fired. Thing is, UNC is not a better job than Tennessee

At least hint at how you found this amazing nugget that not a single media outlet, dirt sheet, rumor mill, well placed source, college football insider, or well heeled jock sniffer managed to get out.

Are you serious with this?

Come on man.
 
At least hint at how you found this amazing nugget that not a single media outlet, dirt sheet, rumor mill, well placed source, college football insider, or well heeled jock sniffer managed to get out.

Are you serious with this?

Come on man.

I have seen no official accounts of the event, but I have heard mention of it. I'm not saying it did or didn't happen, but it's not the first time I've heard it.
 
I have seen no official accounts of the event, but I have heard mention of it. I'm not saying it did or didn't happen, but it's not the first time I've heard it.

Well if it actually happend you would think we would have heard about it by now. Stuff like this makes it here pretty fast. First I have heard about it and without any proof it's hard to believe.
 
Well if it actually happend you would think we would have heard about it by now. Stuff like this makes it here pretty fast. First I have heard about it and without any proof it's hard to believe.

Understandable. I have no clue how accurate it is.
 

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