Durant Can't Bench 185

#76
#76
JZVOL said:
To say KG isn't as skilled as Durant is making me think you don't know basketball.


Who on earth ever marketed KG as a point guard?
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your evidence of KG's skill was a shooting %, rebounds and 4.5 assists per game. the only # of any of that set that merits any accolades is the rebounding.

KG could not trade bodies with Durant, keep his game and be an NBA stud. Durant would be a stud. That's what I'm talking about in skills.
 
#77
#77
BigPapaVol said:
your evidence of KG's skill was a shooting %, rebounds and 4.5 assists per game. the only # of any of that set that merits any accolades is the rebounding.

KG could not trade bodies with Durant, keep his game and be an NBA stud. Durant would be a stud. That's what I'm talking about in skills.
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So you want to discount stats people use to judge a player, and have them switch bodies to truly compare how good they would be?


Honestly that is the craziest thing I have ever read. Changing bodies has never been a measuring stick. Mugsy Bogues would have been better in Michael Jordan's body than Jordan in Bogues' body. I mean that makes no sense at all.
 
#78
#78
You simply don't want to admit that Garnett is not particularly skilled. At 6'9", he would not be a stud. That leaves me with the fact that he gets things done because he's 7'. Durant, shoots well as a spot-up, off the dribble and in traffic. He can make his own shot. He is skilled enough that he need not be 7' to get it done in the NBA. The same cannot be said of Garnett. He's not in the league because he shoots 49% (pathetic for a 7') or averages 4.5 assists. He's certainly not there because he can shoot. He's there because he is 7', rebounds and defends well.
 
#79
#79
Plus KG is only like an inch or two taller than Durant. KG also weighs 250 or so. From what I read Durant is like 220.

KG would be just as great even a few inches shorter.
 
#80
#80
JZVOL said:
Plus KG is only like an inch or two taller than Durant. KG also weighs 250 or so. From what I read Durant is like 220.

KG would be just as great even a few inches shorter.
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Now that's silly. What would he do at 6'7"? He would then have to have some skills. There's not a 6'7" player in the league with less basketball skills than KG.
 
#81
#81
BigPapaVol said:
You simply don't want to admit that Garnett is not particularly skilled. At 6'9", he would not be a stud. That leaves me with the fact that he gets things done because he's 7'. Durant, shoots well as a spot-up, off the dribble and in traffic. He can make his own shot. He is skilled enough that he need not be 7' to get it done in the NBA. The same cannot be said of Garnett. He's not in the league because he shoots 49% (pathetic for a 7') or averages 4.5 assists. He's certainly not there because he can shoot. He's there because he is 7', rebounds and defends well.
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Because it is not true!!!!! You act like KG stands in front of the goal and dunks. He is a very skilled offensive player with range.

I guess it isn't a skill to be doubled teamed when you touch the ball and shoot over people your same height and weight.

He averages over 20 ppg for goodness sake.

To say he is only in the league because he is 7' and not skilled is very very stupid.
 
#82
#82
BigPapaVol said:
Now that's silly. What would he do at 6'7"? He would then have to have some skills. There's not a 6'7" player in the league with less basketball skills than KG.
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A few inches is not 6'7 for him. You said we should switch bodies with Durant who is taller than 6'7. Stop making stuff up as you go along.
 
#83
#83
JZVOL said:
A few inches is not 6'7 for him. You said we should switch bodies with Durant who is taller than 6'7. Stop making stuff up as you go along.
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OK fine. Same applies at 6'8" or 6'9". He might start in the NBA at any of those sizes. What position would he play at those sizes and what would he be able to get done?
 
#84
#84
Honestly I'm not going to argue this anymore.

Good luck trying to convince anyone that a multiple NBA first teamer and former MVP isn't skilled.

This is the dumbest arguement I've ever had in my life!!!!

Watch some highlights of him and see all the spin moves and watch his footwork and then tell me he isn't skilled.
 
#85
#85
JZVOL said:
Honestly I'm not going to argue this anymore.

Good luck trying to convince anyone that a multiple NBA first teamer and former MVP isn't skilled.

This is the dumbest arguement I've ever had in my life!!!!

Watch some highlights of him and see all the spin moves and watch his footwork and then tell me he isn't skilled.
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Why don't you tell me all about Wilt Chamberlain's skill set. I'll assure you that he's a more decorated player than Garnett. Ditto Shaq. How about his skills? Lack of skill doesn't mean lack of dominance. Simply means they're great for other reasons - most often that reason being pure size.
 
#90
#90
While you guys are blown away by these numbers...

Oden 6-11 (w/o shoes) 257
3/4 court 3.27
Body Fat % 7.8
Wingspan 7' 4.25"
Stand Reach 9'4
Stand Vert 32'
Running Vert 34'
Lane Agility 11.67

Durant 6-9 (w/o shoes) 215
3/4 sprint 3.45
body fat 6.6
wingspan 7' 4.75"
stand reach 9'2
standing vert 26'
running vert 33.5'
lane agility 12.33
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I'l just pay attention to these numbers...

durant- 25 ppg, 11 rpg
oden- 15 ppg 9.5 rpg

Which ones should I be concerned about if I'm lookng for a basketball player?
 
#91
#91
Tesla said:
While you guys are blown away by these numbers...




I'l just pay attention to these numbers...

durant- 25 ppg, 11 rpg
oden- 15 ppg 9.5 rpg

Which ones should I be concerned about if I'm lookng for a basketball player?
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I'd still take Oden. It's not as simple as points and rebounds.
 
#92
#92
It would be easy to pick either one and you will get a VERY good NBA player. But if it was my call I'm taking Durrant. As far as Durrant being better than KG I'd have to disagee. I don't see Durrant getting 15 boards a game in the NBA, I think he'll be more of a 25ppg,8rpg instead of a KG 28 and 15.
 
#93
#93
I just couldn't read all of the pages and think Durant is gonna be a great player. But if he doesn't get stronger he better keep his a$$ out of the paint in the NBA.
 
#94
#94
Rocky Top said:
It would be easy to pick either one and you will get a VERY good NBA player. But if it was my call I'm taking Durrant. As far as Durrant being better than KG I'd have to disagee. I don't see Durrant getting 15 boards a game in the NBA, I think he'll be more of a 25ppg,8rpg instead of a KG 28 and 15.
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KG is not a 28 and 15 guy and cannot create his own shot. He's still a great player, but because of size moreso than skill. Durant's great because of the skills he possesses.
 
#95
#95
In 01-02 he avg 24 ppg 18 rebs and 5 assists
and 02-03 27/15/5

Amazigly he did this with no skill and without the abilty to create his own shot. It was all because he is tall and the rest of the league is so short.
 
#96
#96
Bench press pressing is actually a tough exercise for "lanky" guys to do. Not being able to get 185 is kinda weak though.... for a pro athlete.
 
#98
#98
JZVOL said:
In 01-02 he avg 24 ppg 18 rebs and 5 assists
and 02-03 27/15/5

Amazigly he did this with no skill and without the abilty to create his own shot. It was all because he is tall and the rest of the league is so short.
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Where are you getting the silly stats? I'll assure you he has never averaged 18 boards / 15 boards or 27 points. He's on a team that needs / allows him to do as he wishes on the offensive end, yet only seems to lead the league in boards. Wonder what gives? His teams don't win big games, especially the close ones, wonder what gives?

Dominant / skilled big men on teams like that always board a ton, and they combine with that enormous point totals. Again, he boards well, but where are the big points? You know - like Durant puts up.
 
#99
#99
This past season KG averaged 22pg and 12rpg....his careeer numbers are 20ppg, 11rpg along with nearly 5 assts per game.
 
#100
#100
BigPapaVol said:
Where are you getting the silly stats? I'll assure you he has never averaged 18 boards / 15 boards or 27 points. He's on a team that needs / allows him to do as he wishes on the offensive end, yet only seems to lead the league in boards. Wonder what gives? His teams don't win big games, especially the close ones, wonder what gives?

Dominant / skilled big men on teams like that always board a ton, and they combine with that enormous point totals. Again, he boards well, but where are the big points? You know - like Durant puts up.
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His teams have been to the playoffs 8 times and the conference finals once. They underachieved in the playoffs.

I was looking at his playoff avg for the 18 boards.

Again for his career he averages 20/10/4.5 He came directly from HS so the numbers from his first year or two bring his averages down.

Karl Malone for his career 25/10/3.6

Tim Duncan 21/11.9/3.2 entered the league after 4 years of college

Are you going to tell me Duncan is good only because he is tall and Durant is more skilled?

Kevin Durant 25ppg 11.1 rebs and ONLY 1.3 assists

It would appear Garnett is a more SKILLED passer than Durant.

The silly stats are courtesy of NBA.com
 
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