Dwight Howard "upset" about Tobias Harris wearing #12

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#27
iKrager said:
Define disappointing. He averaged 15.3ppg as a freshmen... That's pretty damn impressive.
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This is the type response I am leery of when we land big-time prospects. Everyone expects more. 15.3 ppg was disappointing. Scotty Hopson averaged 17 ppg as a junior, and he was a bust to some of our fans.

Robert Hubbs beware.

I hope ejvols' memory is clouded by the disappointment of the 2010-11 season as a whole, and not by Tobias' play. Here's a reminder of just how good he really was for a freshman.

Tobias Harris Profile - UTSPORTS.COM - University of Tennessee Athletics
 
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Tobias was the best UT freshman since Bernard King himself.
 
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cncchris33 said:
This is the type response I am leery of when we land big-time prospects. Everyone expects more. 15.3 ppg was disappointing. Scotty Hopson averaged 17 ppg as a junior, and he was a bust to some of our fans.

Robert Hubbs beware.

I hope ejvols' memory is clouded by the disappointment of the 2010-11 season as a whole, and not by Tobias' play. Here's a reminder of just how good he really was for a freshman.

Tobias Harris Profile - UTSPORTS.COM - University of Tennessee Athletics
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That entire season was just a major disappointment in general.

He was good his freshman year, but the talk around VN makes it sound like Harris had some legendary freshman year. You could see he had the talent all year, but then he'd have games like that College of Charleston debacle that just left you scratching your head. He was a very raw player during his time at UT.
 
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ejvols4 said:
Maybe he was great by our program's standards, but he was nowhere near the Durants, Anthonys and Michael Beasleys of the college basketball world.
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What a moronic statement. All 3 of the guys you mentioned where the #1 players in their respective classes, or top 2, Harris was not. So you're saying you expected a guy who was rated lower to have the same impact as guys who were rated the best players in their class?

What's next, Robert Hubbs is supposed to perform like Wiggins and Randle?
 
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ejvols4 said:
That entire season was just a major disappointment in general.

He was good his freshman year, but the talk around VN makes it sound like Harris had some legendary freshman year. You could see he had the talent all year, but then he'd have games like that College of Charleston debacle that just left you scratching your head. He was a very raw player during his time at UT.
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Freshman All-American. Good call.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
What a moronic statement. All 3 of the guys you mentioned where the #1 players in their respective classes, or top 2, Harris was not. So you're saying you expected a guy who was rated lower to have the same impact as guys who were rated the best players in their class?

What's next, Robert Hubbs is supposed to perform like Wiggins and Randle?
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He was the #4 overall recruit in the country. So yes, maybe my expectations were skewed a little by the hype, but considering he was in the same top 10 as Kyrie Irving, Harrison Barnes and Jared Sullinger, pardon me for being a little disappointed by what he did during his season here.

My point was that we only got a brief glimpse of Tobias' potential during his time at UT. He was 18 years old at the time and was still physically maturing. His game needed alot of work after his freshman year and it's good that he's put in that work at the next level. Now that he's grown into his game, I think he can be a very productive NBA player.

At least he didn't turn out like Josh Selby.
 
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sport3500 said:
Why did Gray transfer?
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I tried looking that up and couldn't find anything. iirc it was either grades or homesick. However he transferred to a jc in Idaho first, then to CA.

He might have not hit it off with Kevin O'Neil. Seems like that was when he was coming here.
 
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ejvols4 said:
He was the #4 overall recruit in the country. So yes, maybe my expectations were skewed a little by the hype, but considering he was in the same top 10 as Kyrie Irving, Harrison Barnes and Jared Sullinger, pardon me for being a little disappointed by what he did during his season here.

My point was that we only got a brief glimpse of Tobias' potential during his time at UT. He was 18 years old at the time and was still physically maturing. His game needed alot of work after his freshman year and it's good that he's put in that work at the next level. Now that he's grown into his game, I think he can be a very productive NBA player.

At least he didn't turn out like Josh Selby.
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Don't be put off by the belittling of few. Opinions differ
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Sounds like you may have had a slightly too high of expectations. He was an offensive monster. But most freshmen don't take much pride in defense. Also, TH is a scorer but he is also a team player. He didn't want/need to put up 30 shots per game.
 
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ejvols4 said:
*Second team freshman All-American
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Well that qualifier certainly invalidates the accomplishment now doesn't it.

Let's be honest, you're down on Tobias because he left after one season and not because of his production.
 
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ejvols4 said:
He was the #4 overall recruit in the country. So yes, maybe my expectations were skewed a little by the hype, but considering he was in the same top 10 as Kyrie Irving, Harrison Barnes and Jared Sullinger, pardon me for being a little disappointed by what he did during his season here.

My point was that we only got a brief glimpse of Tobias' potential during his time at UT. He was 18 years old at the time and was still physically maturing. His game needed alot of work after his freshman year and it's good that he's put in that work at the next level. Now that he's grown into his game, I think he can be a very productive NBA player.

At least he didn't turn out like Josh Selby.
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which service had him #4 overall? And when you compare him to the players you mentioned, he had just as good of a season as all of them with the exception of maybe sullinger. They got the pub because they played for bluebloods. If Tobias had chosen Syracuse over us, his perception in the media would've been much different.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Tobias is already a better teammate for the Magic than Howard ever dreamed about being in all his years in Orlando.

And seriously, its a freaking number. Its not retired. Its not even special. Orlando fans couldn't care less about Howard's opinion on the issue
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No we couldn't care any less than we do. Dwight will never have a jersey retired. He lost thy chance by his antics in recent years. I said this during the fiasco, Dwight's legacy is ruined. He will never be immortalized by a banner of any kind. He doesn't deserve and never will deserve it. What a goon.
 
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MannyD said:
which service had him #4 overall? And when you compare him to the players you mentioned, he had just as good of a season as all of them with the exception of maybe sullinger. They got the pub because they played for bluebloods. If Tobias had chosen Syracuse over us, his perception in the media would've been much different.
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Scout had him at 4
 
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