Dy'shawn Mobley

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GLDunlap said:
Hasn't handled himself well? Why even go there? He had one minor incident last year. Far less serious then what Jacques Smith did his senior year at Ooltewah and I don't think Jacques has had any issues lately.
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Deets?
 
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Muschump said:
Deets?
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When Jacques was a senior at Ooltewah they made the playoff's but a few days before they were to play Farragut in the first round he smashed a teammates face in so he got suspended for the game. Of course Ooltewah lost without him. Stuff happens Jacques is by all accounts a great guy. The point I was trying to make is just because a kid screws up once it doesn't mean there is a long term problem like the poster was insinuating about Mobley. The way I said it made it sound like the situation Jacques had was serious which it wasn't unless of course you were the teammate that took the punch. Ouch!!
 
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GLDunlap said:
To start with I NEVER questioned whether UT was looking at him or not. I'm sure they know exactly who Mobley is and are evaluating whether to offer or not. The fact is I never once said Tennessee should offer Mobley what I said was I think he has enough talent to play at Tennessee or another D-1 school. That doesn't mean we should give him a scholarship if we have commits from players the staff likes better. Read my post before you reply with garbage that I never have said. I'm sure if CDD thinks Mobley is good enough to play a position of need they will offer him. Either way it doesn't mean he is going to be right. Just because Dooley as you say makes 2 million a year (which he doesn't) doesn't mean he can't make a mistake. We spent almost $200K on services last year just to help with recruiting so obviously it isn't a correct science.

My real complaint is I'm sick of people that have never seen Mobley and others play continually say "he isn't good enough" because he plays in Tennessee. If a player isn't good enough fine but don't base it on the competition he plays agaist. I have never once pointed to any stats when expressing my opinions of Mobley. We don't get alot of great college players from east Tennessee but there have been a few and I'm sure there were people saying the same thing about them.

Everything is so black and white with some people. Santos is a good example I love the guy but don't tell me he is playing agaist great competition because he play's in Texas. I spent many years in east Texas and I know for a fact that not all HS football in Texas is good football.

As far as stirring up the Powell community once again your just making up stuff. You will not find a post of mine anywhere that mentions the Powell community. Yes I technically live in Powell but thats about it. I've seen Mobley play twice but not at Powell HS. In fact I have never been to a game at Powell HS in my life and don't know a single person associated with Powell HS.
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I wasn't necessarily attributing everything in my post towards you specifically. You just happened to have asked how we know we have better recruits at his position. Well, in reality, we don't know. That's why we have to trust the man who makes, technically, $1.8 million. Sorry for rounding up.

As I said earlier, not every element of my post was directed at you. Your's was the one I responded to to cover a lot of points. That said, I'm not real sure what your argument is, short of just being upset that people are trying to qualify Mobleys talent level in comparison to the competition he plays against. The only problem is, its very important to take that into account IMO. That plays a major factor. I'm just not sure how else you can compare him to other players outside of the measurables than to look at the competition level and the numbers. Do you not agree that rushing for 2000 yards and 20 TDs in east Tennessee and doing the same in Atlanta or south Florida are completely different things? If not, we can agree to disagree on this I guess, because I think there is a major difference.

My argument is more about the players recruited at his potential positions being better than Mobley, and their numbers relative to their competition as well as their offer lists would suggest as much.
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Looks like Coty Sensabaugh, another East Tennessee player we didn't recruit, is having a good season for Clemson.
 
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King by Right said:
He has already reached "above average" status with the Green Bay Packers...
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Perhaps, but he is still, at best, the fifth option in Green Bay behind Jennings, Driver, Nelson, and Finley. You could make an argument that he is behind James Jones as well. He will still be utilized in Green Bay because of their high-powered offense.

My original point being, at UT, he would have blended in more with the higher caliber talent around him as opposed to being the sole focal point at UK.
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#107
#107
again, cobb would still be an nfl quality player and jeri cul jones would still be another guy in trooper's speed dial. get real.
 
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JokermanVol said:
again, cobb would still be an nfl quality player and jeri cul jones would still be another guy in trooper's speed dial. get real.
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I'm pretty sure I've gone to great lengths to establish that Cobb would have made it to the NFL regardless of where he played ball in college. My point is, and always has been, that he stuck out at a place like Kentucky moreso than he would have at UT because of the relative lack of talent surrounding him there. He was Kentucky's best player. At Tennessee, he wouldn't have even been the best WR, and only about the fourth or fifth best player. Read through the entire thread next time slick. As you would say, get real.
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cncchris33 said:
I wasn't necessarily attributing everything in my post towards you specifically. You just happened to have asked how we know we have better recruits at his position. Well, in reality, we don't know. That's why we have to trust the man who makes, technically, $1.8 million. Sorry for rounding up.

As I said earlier, not every element of my post was directed at you. Your's was the one I responded to to cover a lot of points. That said, I'm not real sure what your argument is, short of just being upset that people are trying to qualify Mobleys talent level in comparison to the competition he plays against. The only problem is, its very important to take that into account IMO. That plays a major factor. I'm just not sure how else you can compare him to other players outside of the measurables than to look at the competition level and the numbers. Do you not agree that rushing for 2000 yards and 20 TDs in east Tennessee and doing the same in Atlanta or south Florida are completely different things? If not, we can agree to disagree on this I guess, because I think there is a major difference.

My argument is more about the players recruited at his potential positions being better than Mobley, and their numbers relative to their competition as well as their offer lists would suggest as much.
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Of course I agree that 2000 yards and 20 touchdowns doesn't hold as much water in east Tennessee as it would in South Florida thats why I never mention stats of high school players. Regardless of where they play high school stats are meaningless to me. Alden Hill is putting up huge numbers agaist what is likely to be better competition then what Mobley is facing but I'm not sold on him. I've seen Mobley and I think he looks like a D-1 talent if not at running back at linebacker but that doesn't mean I'm right. Once again and for the last time what really bothers me is that as soon as a high school player from east Tennessee is mentioned in a recruiting thread people who know absolutely nothing immediately jump in and say "he's not SEC caliber" based on nothing except the competition he play's agaist. I know Cobb is an extreme example but do you know how many people that never saw the kid play and knew nothing about him got on these boards proclaiming he's not good enough to play at UT based strictly on the fact that high school football in east Tennessee sucks? It's just an easy out for all the clueless experts on these boards. You mentioned how else to evaluate Mobley outside of the measurables except the competition he plays. I haven't seen a single post yet that actually mentioned Mobley's measurables and that's exactly my point.
 
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GLDunlap said:
Of course I agree that 2000 yards and 20 touchdowns doesn't hold as much water in east Tennessee as it would in South Florida thats why I never mention stats of high school players. Regardless of where they play high school stats are meaningless to me. Alden Hill is putting up huge numbers agaist what is likely to be better competition then what Mobley is facing but I'm not sold on him. I've seen Mobley and I think he looks like a D-1 talent if not at running back at linebacker but that doesn't mean I'm right. Once again and for the last time what really bothers me is that as soon as a high school player from east Tennessee is mentioned in a recruiting thread people who know absolutely nothing immediately jump in and say "he's not SEC caliber" based on nothing except the competition he play's agaist. I know Cobb is an extreme example but do you know how many people that never saw the kid play and knew nothing about him got on these boards proclaiming he's not good enough to play at UT based strictly on the fact that high school football in east Tennessee sucks? It's just an easy out for all the clueless experts on these boards. You mentioned how else to evaluate Mobley outside of the measurables except the competition he plays. I haven't seen a single post yet that actually mentioned Mobley's measurables and that's exactly my point.
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I can roll with that explanation. Like I said, it is my personal opinion that the players that we have recruited are better at his position(s). With limited scholarship numbers this year, its tough to take a guy that the staff may not be fully sold on. I question the Blanc scholarship offer too, but I have to assume that the staff sees a spot for him, and doesn't for Mobley. The fact that Blanc has several D1 offers and Mobley doesn't suggests that the people who are paid to evaluate talent believe the same thing, though it is by no means an exact science. Blanc may wash out and Mobley may turn out to be an All-Pro one day.
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cncchris33 said:
I'm pretty sure I've gone to great lengths to establish that Cobb would have made it to the NFL regardless of where he played ball in college. My point is, and always has been, that he stuck out at a place like Kentucky moreso than he would have at UT because of the relative lack of talent surrounding him there. He was Kentucky's best player. At Tennessee, he wouldn't have even been the best WR, and only about the fourth or fifth best player. Read through the entire thread next time slick. As you would say, get real.
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cobb would have been the best wr on the roster last year. da'rick and hunter may very well turn out to be picked higher than the 64th pick whenever they enter the draft, but those two as true freshmen were not better than cobb last season.

i've read the entire thread slick.
 
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I've watched Mobley for 2 years now and have a son on the Powell team. The rumor I've heard about Mobley is his lack of speed is why he isn't being recruited by bigger programs. However, through 7 games, I haven't seen anyone that can catch him in the open field. I played college football and would like to think I'm a decent judge of ability. Can he play in the SEC, absolutely. Not sure if he's good enough for the top programs, but he has great size and speed and has great vision. UT should at least take a look and make an informed decsion.

Regarding an earlier comment about "above the shoulders", he did get into some trouble last year but has had zero issues this year. He is an extremely likeable young man and seems to have learned from his mistakes.
 
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cncchris33 said:
I can roll with that explanation. Like I said, it is my personal opinion that the players that we have recruited are better at his position(s). With limited scholarship numbers this year, its tough to take a guy that the staff may not be fully sold on. I question the Blanc scholarship offer too, but I have to assume that the staff sees a spot for him, and doesn't for Mobley. The fact that Blanc has several D1 offers and Mobley doesn't suggests that the people who are paid to evaluate talent believe the same thing, though it is by no means an exact science. Blanc may wash out and Mobley may turn out to be an All-Pro one day.
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As far as I know the only camp Mobley attended was UK's (but I'm not sure) so I tend to think he is just late to the party but only time will tell. I don't think Tennessee will offer at this point with our numbers crunch but I could see one of the Mississippi schools or Vanderbilt. If not he may very well end up at Kentucky and although I would wish him well if he turned out to be a quality player CDD may never hear the end of it. I know Kentucky sucks but they are loving recruiting the Knoxville area. I noticed the other day that Darrell Warren freshman from Alcoa was their starting fullback now and they took Shaquille Love out of Harriman. We should have taken him on name alone.
 
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jps2194 said:
I've watched Mobley for 2 years now and have a son on the Powell team. The rumor I've heard about Mobley is his lack of speed is why he isn't being recruited by bigger programs. However, through 7 games, I haven't seen anyone that can catch him in the open field. I played college football and would like to think I'm a decent judge of ability. Can he play in the SEC, absolutely. Not sure if he's good enough for the top programs, but he has great size and speed and has great vision. UT should at least take a look and make an informed decsion.

Regarding an earlier comment about "above the shoulders", he did get into some trouble last year but has had zero issues this year. He is an extremely likeable young man and seems to have learned from his mistakes.
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Great post with "real" solid information not just "he doesn't play good competition" so he isn't an SEC caliber player. Thanks for your assessment.
 
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JokermanVol said:
cobb would have been the best wr on the roster last year. da'rick and hunter may very well turn out to be picked higher than the 64th pick whenever they enter the draft, but those two as true freshmen were not better than cobb last season.

i've read the entire thread slick.
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What is the point in all this anyway? I think we all agree we missed on Randall Cobb, end of story. After that who cares if he would have been our best receiver or our 5th best receiver. It really doesn't matter. Besides if anyone doubts what Randall Cobb could have done for Tennessee just look at our return game or lack of the past four years.
 
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atxvol2010 said:
Moore was the best WR on the roster last year and the better WR in the NFL.
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Are you sure Moore isn't just "sticking out" because he play's for Oakland while Cobb plays for Green Bay. Just saying.......

Cobb has 7 catches for 148 average 21.1
Moore 12 catches for 199 average 16.6

Seems a little early to declare Denarius a better NFL receiver anyway.
 
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JokermanVol said:
cobb would have been the best wr on the roster last year. da'rick and hunter may very well turn out to be picked higher than the 64th pick whenever they enter the draft, but those two as true freshmen were not better than cobb last season.

i've read the entire thread slick.
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Wrong. Denarious Moore is and was a better WR.
 
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6 carries 121 yards. 2 tds. He didn't even play the whole first half. Clinton was that bad.
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By the end of the regular season, Mobley will have played a total of like 4 games lol. He's out at the half in almost every game.
 
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