We won 7 games with Sullin twin walk ons on the OL with Kiffin and should have beat Bama that year, so I think a great OL coach can win a bunch of games with decent talent because that OL had 1 really good OL with Chris Scott. I have seen some really talented OL with a crappy coach underperform. So not sure I agree with your premise
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Damn near the entire recruiting class is enrolling early. Nice!View attachment 703466
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Taking a look at which of Tennessee Football's signees look to be early enrollees as of Thursday afternoon.
Alabama had 0 top 10 classes from 2004-2007. In 2008 Saban went 12-1, and won the NC in 2009 off that foundation.
the easier list is who wont be lol looks like 20/22 will be EE's 1 WR and 1DT I think we will be just fine.View attachment 703466
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That proves nothing... first you moved the goal posts by saying he had no top 10 classes and comparing that to someone with top 20 classes. Second, using outliers is lame. You can't use Micheal Jordan or Peyton Manning as a measure of good or great. There are certain people that belong in their own category. The chances of finding another Saban in the next 20 years are slim because in the past 100+ years there have been like 3 or 4 guys that belong in a conversation with him. There are lots of good to great coaches not named Saban that teams can actually hire.. we are talking about those guys. Butch Jones with top 10 classes and a decent AD would so just fine.
That just shows you that good coaching means something and star rankings isn’t perfect. Our staff is one of the best at identifying talent. The difference between 5-12 in recruiting is very small. So in reality we are right there at 3rd-4th in sec ranking. And more importantly once signed what staffs do the best at coaching up and retaining players which we have been very good at. To many people take each spot in top 10-12 to seriously. If you can recruit in the top 10 and coach up and retain players better than the ones in front of you things will work out. Folks acting like we are way behind others in the SEC are wrong. We identify the players we feel like can help us and now we are building depth. We can compete with anybody. Recruiting rankings are only a guide but they don’t always tell the whole story. GBO
You're living in a delusional world if you think all Butch needed was an AD to win here. He had top multiple top 7 classes but failed catastrophically with in game coaching decisions.
You said top 10 then went on to a false comparison of UT not having top 20 classes.....so yes you moved the goal posts. In your own words, maybe read your own post?. Also you made a false statement about UT's recruiting classes. UT has only had 2 classes in the past 10 years out of the top 25. 21 in 2018 and 25 in 2011. the only class since then we have had not in the top 10 was 2019 13th. Thats nationally....
The entire post that started it was me responding to someone saying we would never catch up to schools who finish in the top 3 seemingly every season, UGA, Bama etc. I said, correctly, that good coaching will make up the difference. A great coach and staff can make it work with top 15 talent.
No I did not. I said you need both to be elite. A bad coach with Great talent can win. A Great coach with a average team can win. A Great coach with bad talent cant win. Talent makes everything easier. Talent alone cant win it all but it can get you most of the way there. There are average coaches that have won championships (a good example would be mack brown)... there are not average teams that have.
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