Edwin Herbert (opened things up)

Don't be an a-hole. You know what I meant.

Take the tampon out.

You were whining about how everyone keeps throwing info at you - info that you're already have, because you're "completely aware of everything that goes on recruiting-wise." I was just curious how you acquired such an in-depth knowledge of the UT recruiting situation.
 
Take the tampon out.

You were whining about how everyone keeps throwing info at you - info that you're already have, because you're "completely aware of everything that goes on recruiting-wise." I was just curious how you acquired such an in-depth knowledge of the UT recruiting situation.

I've got a crystal f'ng ball, smartass.
 
You're not telling me anything I don't already know. I understand that we are at a disadvantage. That's not the point. We have a chance to bring in some guys that will really help this team succeed and we are not doing a good enough job at it. That's all I'm saying. Be a realist for a minute. Stop sugarcoating every mistep Kiffin makes for a second and look at what has transpired.

Kiffin is not honoring the commitments of players that had previously been committed. He is turning away prospects that don't fit his system. What's next? Is he going to start pulling players scholly's because they don't fit his system?

Erroneous. He would have honored the commitments of Boyd and Petty if they had chosen to still attend. He simply told them he didn't see how they would fit in as QB in his system. They could have come on down if they wanted to.
 
Erroneous. He would have honored the commitments of Boyd and Petty if they had chosen to still attend. He simply told them he didn't see how they would fit in as QB in his system. They could have come on down if they wanted to.

Once again, more information of which I am totally aware.
 
Lets be clear before this thread dies as Herbert is not a Vol. Herbert was not a soft when Kiffin was hired. He said he was not coming here at all. Kiffin made efforts that made him a soft again. Thus, Kiffin lost nothing here. Same goes for Giles. I am upset we did not get him we need a big DT. We are OK at the 3 spot but we need a Williams type 300 or bigger DT. Lowery is a big deal now and Willliams staying is a must. However, this is Fulmer's fault we should already had one on board but Phil kept losing out on all the DT recruits. Kiffin had two weeks to find one, Herbert had already said he was not coming here. If he gets one it just shows how good he is at recruiting. He will have done what Phil has not in 3 years.
 
Lets be clear before this thread dies as Herbert is not a Vol. Herbert was not a soft when Kiffin was hired. He said he was not coming here at all. Kiffin made efforts that made him a soft again. Thus, Kiffin lost nothing here. Same goes for Giles. I am upset we did not get him we need a big DT. We are OK at the 3 spot but we need a Williams type 300 or bigger DT. Lowery is a big deal now and Willliams staying is a must. However, this is Fulmer's fault we should already had one on board but Phil kept losing out on all the DT recruits. Kiffin had two weeks to find one, Herbert had already said he was not coming here. If he gets one it just shows how good he is at recruiting. He will have done what Phil has not in 3 years.

Finally, a post with some substance. With Monte being officially announced who knows what might happen being signing day.
 
Once again, more information of which I am totally aware.

If you knew that, then why did you use the opposite as an argument? He either honors the commitments or not. He did, they chose to back out.

If you were in the Senate I bet you would have been 'for it before you were against it'.

Arguments do not go this way:
Person 1: "I think point A"
Person 2: "I think point B"
Person 1: "I KNOW it's point B. I've known it all along. GAH! Why are you bringing this up!"
 
Lowry is a beast...plus I agree with Jewbaccah that Kiffin is doing a bang up job...we're not gonna be able to pick up every star recruit out there. Also, Kiffin got an extremely late start in the game...think about it...most coaches have been talking to these kids since they were juniors in high school...the fact that Kiffin got E. Gordon to commit and M. Teague to even think about UT solidifies the opinion that he is a great recruiter....what's the saying...."sell ice to an eskimo"?
 

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