Effects of coach security on recruting (split)

#51
#51
Grateful Vol said:
Never has a university fired a coach with a top 10 incoming class. It is likely to be a top 5 by Monday. Even Fulmer's biggest haters are smart enough to see that we are addressing every single need with these recruits. Offensively, we would be set for 4 years. With the 2007 class we would be set on D for 2 more. Their problem is they know if Fulmer is kept this year, then he will likely have enough talent to last 3 more years. It sucks, but recruiting is half the job and Fulmer is covering his big behind with an awesome class.

We would be forfeiting any chance of short term success if we get rid of Fulmer and these recruits leave. We would also be selling EB and the 2007 class short by not giving them a legit shot of winning a championship. It would be the biggest waste of talent ever at UT.

We won the east last year and we all unfortunately got our hopes up. But in honesty, we have been rebuilding this whole year. New coordinators, offense, and QB. Everyone on here is jealous of Bama but lets see how they look next year with a new QB and inexperienced O line. By firing Fulmer and ruining the incoming class, we would assure ourselves back to back crappy classes. That alone will set the next coach back 2 or 3 years. If we can get Butch Davis, I say fire Fulmer because BD has a nice class himself and is admired by everyone. Any other replacement is risky and certain to set us back a long time.
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I can't dissagree with anything you said, it is a tough decision between a new coach and a great class. Everyone keeps harping on CPF's inability to develop this tallent, and maybe that is true. An awsome class can also improve things dramaticly if Clawson's offense is able to take hold and the D is able to continue to improve. new head coaches are always risky, but also can be energizing.To me it is a very tough trade off because all I really want is success for the program, the path to that end is debatable.
 
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#52
#52
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Fulmer usually does the last in-house visit with recruits. That's why he is the closer he is. Fulmer washing dishes after dinner at recruit's homes is one way of communicating how much of a family atmosphere UTK is. That is the one thing ALL of our commits state about us when committing to us, the atmosphere.
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That "atmosphere" they speak of is how close the football team, track team, basketball team etc are to each other.
 
#53
#53
justingroves said:
That "atmosphere" they speak of is how close the football team, track team, basketball team etc are to each other.
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That may be true for some but not all recruits, it may be any number of things....... Fans, Team chemistry, The landscape....
 
#54
#54
Recruiting isn't half the job. The job is to win games. You recruit top talent to get the job done. Fulmer has two top 5 classes on his roster right now and we are 3-4.

This recruiting class should not save Fulmer.
 
#55
#55
I think that the long term future of the program is worth more than one class of high school kids.
 
#62
#62
as good as this class is already, if not for the coaching rumors, horrendous season, fan and media negativity, this class would be monster!

devonte Holloman, Morgan Moses, stephon gilmore, darren Myles, marlon brown are just a few of the names that would likely already be commits if not for this negative situation.

it speaks volumes to the recruiting abilities of our coaching staff that this class is ranked 7th in the nation despite the current bad vibes around this program.

if somehow, we can get this season turned around starting today with bama, I think we're looking at a top 5 class. there are still so many top prospects with big interest in this program
 
#63
#63
Its not the school, its the d**m fans starting a new thread of "Fulmers replacement" or "who do you want our next head coach to be?". Fans fulmer is not leaving so shut the hell up and follow your team.
 
#64
#64
TNVol92 said:
Its not the school, its the d**m fans starting a new thread of "Fulmers replacement" or "who do you want our next head coach to be?". Fans fulmer is not leaving so shut the hell up and follow your team.
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we wouldn't be having this problem if the team was winning besides the threads won't change a recruits mind from one school to another.
 
#65
#65
TNVol92 said:
Its not the school, its the d**m fans starting a new thread of "Fulmers replacement" or "who do you want our next head coach to be?". Fans fulmer is not leaving so shut the hell up and follow your team.
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So, who do ya'll think will replace Fulmer?
 
#66
#66
TNVol92 said:
Its not the school, its the d**m fans starting a new thread of "Fulmers replacement" or "who do you want our next head coach to be?". Fans fulmer is not leaving so shut the hell up and follow your team.
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give me a break.
 
#67
#67
TNVol92 said:
Its not the school, its the d**m fans starting a new thread of "Fulmers replacement" or "who do you want our next head coach to be?". Fans fulmer is not leaving so shut the hell up and follow your team.
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Im going to have to start taking the advice of a certain lawyer on here and ignoring more people so my brain doesnt hurt.
 
#71
#71
Fulmer is stepping down on Monday per friend of Mike Hamilton that I tailgated with. He will become the assistant AD after this season.
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#74
#74
I just can't see that happening. Rumors were flying about Llloyd carr weeks before he resigned. We have heard absolutely nothing out of knoxville other than "my sisters's husbands cousin's friend".
 
#75
#75
I'm not sure how I feel about him resigning mid season. What does it accomplish? We can't really contact any coaches mid season. Resign in December, go after a coach and he has enough time to keep as many recruits as possible.
 
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