Eight years and no titles...

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NCGatorBait said:
Is it really possible to even compare the two coaches and scenarios?? Come on man :nono: not even close to the same thing.
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Your right, Zook's best season was 8-5. Fulmer would be fired too if he had 3 straight 8-5 seasons.
 
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#227
allvol said:
Also consider that in 2 of those seasons, Florida had a better conference record but was on probation. The other season was a co-championship.
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IMO it's hard to compare SEC titles pre-1992 to SEC titles post-1992. Pre-1992 there was no Championship game and a just a few years before that, everyone only played 6 conference games and it was also possible for there to be co-champions.
 
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GAVol said:
IMO it's hard to compare SEC titles pre-1992 to SEC titles post-1992. Pre-1992 there was no Championship game and a just a few years before that, everyone only played 6 conference games and it was also possible for there to be co-champions.
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I'm completely ready to go back to that. All the SEC champ game has done is eliminate SEC teams from BCS bowls or the NC game.

UT got eliminated from the NC picture in 01 because of it. When the Pac-10, Big 10, etc step up to the plate, then I will change my mind. But currently with the system I don't like it.

At least 3 SEC teams deserve a BCS bid this year, but the loser in this years champ game probably won't get one.
 
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#235
All the SEC champ game has done is eliminate SEC teams from BCS bowls or the NC game.
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It didnt stop us in '98, or Lsu in '03.

I know it sucks when youre lined up to go for the title and lose the sec cg like we did in '01, but its not the game's fault. Its Lsu's fault for outplaying us even though we were more talented, and leading at halftime, and knocked out their starting qb and rb...:realmad:


But its not costing Florida this year...they arent going to go either way. And it didnt cost Auburn, they didnt get a shot either in '04. So I dont think the game is a bad thing. It is only if you lose. Really, I think the '01 team was the only to "lose" the title game because of the sec cg.
 
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oklavol said:
I'm completely ready to go back to that. All the SEC champ game has done is eliminate SEC teams from BCS bowls or the NC game.
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Without the SECCG this season, Florida would be totally out of National Championship contention. Their only hope (a very very slim hope at that) of going to the NC game is a blowout victory over Arkansas in the SECCG and a USC loss to UCLA this weekend.

oklavol said:
At least 3 SEC teams deserve a BCS bid this year, but the loser in this years champ game probably won't get one.
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Only two SEC teams can go to BCS bowls in the same season anyway, so how does this hurt the conference?
 
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Volmania said:
Without the SECCG this season, Florida would be totally out of National Championship contention. Their only hope (a very very slim hope at that) of going to the NC game is a blowout victory over Arkansas in the SECCG and a USC loss to UCLA this weekend.
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UF doesn't really have a chance at all..the talking heads on ESPN have swayed enough people for a rematch with Michigan if USC does lose..best case scenario for UF is to finish 13-1 and cause some more controversy...hopefully we'll have some playoffs in the near future.
 
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#238
best case scenario for UF is to finish 13-1 and cause some more controversy
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Yeah, Ive given up hope on that. We've had plenty of controversy ('01 Nebraska, '03 Oklahoma, '04 Auburn) and still all we get are tweaks. Makes me wonder that if for all the complaining head coaches do they are secretly happy with the system.
 
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Volmania said:
Without the SECCG this season, Florida would be totally out of National Championship contention. Their only hope (a very very slim hope at that) of going to the NC game is a blowout victory over Arkansas in the SECCG and a USC loss to UCLA this weekend.



Only two SEC teams can go to BCS bowls in the same season anyway, so how does this hurt the conference?
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I am completely against the rule that allows only 2 teams from 1 conference to get BCS bowls.

The SEC potentially eliminates one team from the NC picture with the SEC champ game, just look at UT in 01.

Why should the SEC even play the game? Just to potentially eliminate an SEC team from the NC picture? When the rest of conferences in Div 1 step up and play champ. games I will be ready for one, but now it only makes it more difficult to get into the NC game for the SEC. Most conferences want to make it easier for a team from their conference to make it to the NC game not harder.

Even when you win, like Auburn in 04 you still may not get in. Its ridiculous. Florida isn't going to play in the NC game even if they win this year, it most likely will be USC, barring some upset against UCLA.
 
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#242
Liper said:
But I think it's fair to say that CPF elevated the general stature of the program beyond what CJM had done to that point.
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I agree. My point was not really to compare, even though I did. I just get tired of these people who refer back to "the Majors years" like he left the program in dire straits or something, when in fact it was at pretty much the same level it is at today.
 
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allvol said:
Also consider that in 2 of those seasons, Florida had a better conference record but was on probation. The other season was a co-championship.
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In 1985 we had an equal record to Florida and would have finished as co-champions, although they would have gotten the Sugar Bowl bid had they not been on probation since they beat us. 89 was a three way co championship with Auburn and Bama. Florida had a 6-1 SEC record in 90 to our 5-1-1, but their one loss was 45-3 in Knoxville. The fact of the matter is that UF was on probation, we won the championship. Do you not feel that they were deserved?
 
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#246
MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
I agree. My point was not really to compare, even though I did. I just get tired of these people who refer back to "the Majors years" like he left the program in dire straits or something, when in fact it was at pretty much the same level it is at today.
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I concur. Our team right now and coming back is very comparable to the '92 team. Pretty good, but plenty of holes to fill.
 
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