Electric Vehicles

[lookoutmtn17]

My cars already know the speed limits for the roads they are on.

 

[Orangeburst]

Elon Musk says Chinese EV makers will 'pretty much demolish' most competitors without trade barriers

Companies including BYD, Nio and Xpeng have expanded sales outside of China in the last two years, looking to take on established automakers, including Tesla.

www.cnbc.com

Why China poses a growing threat to the U.S. auto industry

Chinese companies are releasing new models in record times, and many are producing EVs efficiently and profitably.

www.cnbc.com

 

[LouderVol]

My cars already know the speed limits for the roads they are on.

yeah, if you have onboard GPS/navigation your car already knows the speed limit and how fast you are going.

 

[GroverCleveland]

Remind me again of what interlock or governor that can't be bypassed? Can you imaging the infrastructure that'll need to be installed so that your car will know the speed limit for the road you are on? If it's optical, how much fun will it be to add a "1" in front of all the speed limit signs.

Will not be that hard. GPS systems now provide speed limit data as you drive and the inerlock/governor will be software, not mechanical.

Makes those 60s and 70s model vehicles more attractive. Hell, the gov/big tech is turning us into Cuba!

 

[Wireless1]

Will not be that hard. GPS systems now provide speed limit data as you drive and the inerlock/governor will be software, not mechanical.

Makes those 60s and 70s model vehicles more attractive. Hell, the gov/big tech is turning us into Cuba!

My question actually goes a little deeper. Google Maps, Apple Maps, Waze, all use different technology ( cameras, user input) as input for that speed limit. I don't think there is any of that input comes from whoever actually sets the speed limits, and this doesn't take into account the areas that have digital speed signs that can be remotely changed. I've noticed a couple of times where Google maps and Apple Maps have the speed limit change at different points on the highway.

 

[LouderVol]

My question actually goes a little deeper. Google Maps, Apple Maps, Waze, all use different technology ( cameras, user input) as input for that speed limit. I don't think there is any of that input comes from whoever actually sets the speed limits, and this doesn't take into account the areas that have digital speed signs that can be remotely changed. I've noticed a couple of times where Google maps and Apple Maps have the speed limit change at different points on the highway.

accuracy/safety isn't the real point...

 

[Franklin Pierce]

It's 2035 And You Have Been Restricted From Driving Your Electric Car For 48 Hours Because Your Social Media Post Was Deemed Offensive.

 

[Willy P]

It's 2035 And You Have Been Restricted From Driving Your Electric Car For 48 Hours Because Your Social Media Post Was Deemed Offensive.

Here ya go. Unless you're driving a dino around they all have computers that can disable them.

 

[jmacvols1]

Crash tests indicate nation's guardrail system can't handle heavy electric vehicles

Electric vehicles that typically weigh more than gasoline-powered cars can easily crash through steel highway guardrails that are not designed to withstand the extra force, raising concerns about the nation’s roadside safety system, according to crash test data released Wednesday by the...

www.yahoo.com

"The concern over the weight of electric vehicles stretches beyond vehicle-to-vehicle crashes and compatibility with guardrails, Brooks said. The extra weight will affect everything from faster wear on residential streets and driveways to vehicle tires and infrastructure like parking garages.

“A lot of these parking structures were built to hold vehicles that weighed 2,000 to 4,000 pounds — not 10,000 pounds,” he said."

 

[Orangeburst]

Crash tests indicate nation's guardrail system can't handle heavy electric vehicles

Electric vehicles that typically weigh more than gasoline-powered cars can easily crash through steel highway guardrails that are not designed to withstand the extra force, raising concerns about the nation’s roadside safety system, according to crash test data released Wednesday by the...

www.yahoo.com

that is a costly problem

 

[kiddiedoc]

Crash tests indicate nation's guardrail system can't handle heavy electric vehicles

Electric vehicles that typically weigh more than gasoline-powered cars can easily crash through steel highway guardrails that are not designed to withstand the extra force, raising concerns about the nation’s roadside safety system, according to crash test data released Wednesday by the...

www.yahoo.com

"The concern over the weight of electric vehicles stretches beyond vehicle-to-vehicle crashes and compatibility with guardrails, Brooks said. The extra weight will affect everything from faster wear on residential streets and driveways to vehicle tires and infrastructure like parking garages.

“A lot of these parking structures were built to hold vehicles that weighed 2,000 to 4,000 pounds — not 10,000 pounds,” he said."

Have you actually looked at the weight comparisons of common EVs vs ICE automobiles?

The average SUV or pickup weighs more than even a T3P or S. The larger engines in many sports cars also push them over the weight of faster EVs.

It's really not difficult homework.

 

[Carl Pickens]

https://www.wsj.com/business/earnings/volvo-car-evaluating-potential-reduction-of-shareholding-in-polestar-85e29826?mod=djemalertNEWS

 

[overseasorange2]

LOL, don't be so myopic. Technology improves over time. My F150 runs on battery's under 40mph and gives me 21.5 mpg in the city.

New Report Shows Electric Vehicles Are Unreliable — These 3 Are the Worst

 

[Orangeburst]

Battery swapping is taking off in China — and it could help rescue the EV revolution in the US

Battery swapping in China might help rescue America's EV revolution. Anxieties over range and charging are putting drivers off going electric.

news.yahoo.com

interesting..

to those that dont think China could decimate Big 3 US automakers, you are fooling yourself.

 

[Septic]

New Report Shows Electric Vehicles Are Unreliable — These 3 Are the Worst

You might be shocked to find out that the Internal combustion engine is less reliable than a bicycle.

 

[Orangeburst]

2.34 BILLION metric tons of rare earth minerals discovered in Wyoming

The US could soon take the title as the world's top rare earth mineral supplier after 2.34 billion metric tons were found in Wyoming. China currently processes the most - up to 95 percent.

www.dailymail.co.uk

just wow

 

[Wireless1]

2.34 BILLION metric tons of rare earth minerals discovered in Wyoming

The US could soon take the title as the world's top rare earth mineral supplier after 2.34 billion metric tons were found in Wyoming. China currently processes the most - up to 95 percent.

www.dailymail.co.uk

just wow

And the bottom has fallen out of the rare earth markets. Dozens of US projects for lithium mining and processing have been tabled because China has dropped the price to 20% of what it was a year ago

 

[hog88]

2.34 BILLION metric tons of rare earth minerals discovered in Wyoming

The US could soon take the title as the world's top rare earth mineral supplier after 2.34 billion metric tons were found in Wyoming. China currently processes the most - up to 95 percent.

www.dailymail.co.uk

just wow

Biden or Michelle will shut it down.

 

[LouderVol]

Biden or Michelle will shut it down.

I really don't get why the government/green movement isn't partnering with extractors/refiners to come up with better systems. at least if they actually care about the environment and believe local issues can effect the planet.

instead of flat shutting them down, and sending the work overseas with no oversight, work with them to create new cleaner/safer methods. You still need the raw materials for the rest of the green tech, and you are able to produce the materials with far less global impact here at home, and oh yeah the money stays here and employs Americans.

 

[hog88]

I really don't get why the government/green movement isn't partnering with extractors/refiners to come up with better systems. at least if they actually care about the environment and believe local issues can effect the planet.

instead of flat shutting them down, and sending the work overseas with no oversight, work with them to create new cleaner/safer methods. You still need the raw materials for the rest of the green tech, and you are able to produce the materials with far less global impact here at home, and oh yeah the money stays here and employs Americans.

They don't care about the environment nor the citizens of this country.

 

[Carl Pickens]

My '23 F150 Platinum has an extended range gas tank in addition to the batteries. I can race you to the beach 670 miles away and never have to stop for gas. About 5.5 seconds 0-60 and I can power my house with a 7kw generator. Because of the EV battery tech, I'm probably getting just as good or better mpg than you.

I didn’t realize they made a hybrid. At this point and time, hybrids make much more sense to me than all electric.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Inside Tesla's Lucrative Side Hustle: Automaker has cashed in almost $9 Billion Selling EV Credits to rivals that fail to meet emissions regulations​

Tesla made almost $1.8 billion last year by taking advantage of rival car makers that failed to meet emissions regulations.

Because it manufactures only electric cars, the company earns a surplus of regulatory credits in the US, Europe, and China which it can sell to other automakers that would otherwise be penalized for failing to make enough low-emissions cars.

Last year, the sale of those credits made it $1.79 billion, according to company filings published last week. That is more than in any other year since its incorporation.

Over the last decade and a half, the company has made a total of almost $9 billion selling credits.


In many regions, automakers are required to produce a certain number of zero-emission vehicles (ZEVs). The number they need to make depends on how many non-compliant gas-burning cars they sell in that region.

Tesla earned $9 billion selling emissions credits to rival automakers

Tesla made almost $1.8 billion last year taking advantage of rival car makers that failed to meet emissions regulations.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[rekinhavoc]

As Tactical EV Plans Take Shape, Army Charges Ahead Marines Stay Cautious

As Tactical EV Plans Take Shape, Army Charges Ahead Marines Stay Cautious

www.nationaldefensemagazine.org

"Last June, Lt. Gen. Ross Coffman, deputy commanding general of Army Futures Command, said “the technology does not exist” to create an all-electric tank that can charge in the “tactically relevant” 15-minute time window the service wants. The 17-megawatt generator such a tank would need to meet this target would burn more than 1,200 gallons of diesel per hour, according to analysis from the Institute for Energy Research."

"At the same time, the services are under pressure from within and without to solve these problems and make serious headway toward total electrification of their fleets. In 2022, when the services were more bullish on the timeline for adopting electric tactical vehicles, the Pentagon adopted a sustainability plan laying out steps to move toward the White House’s goal of making every vehicle in the U.S. military climate-friendly."

Tales from the galactically stupid.....

 

[Zues1]

As Tactical EV Plans Take Shape, Army Charges Ahead Marines Stay Cautious

As Tactical EV Plans Take Shape, Army Charges Ahead Marines Stay Cautious

www.nationaldefensemagazine.org

"Last June, Lt. Gen. Ross Coffman, deputy commanding general of Army Futures Command, said “the technology does not exist” to create an all-electric tank that can charge in the “tactically relevant” 15-minute time window the service wants. The 17-megawatt generator such a tank would need to meet this target would burn more than 1,200 gallons of diesel per hour, according to analysis from the Institute for Energy Research."

"At the same time, the services are under pressure from within and without to solve these problems and make serious headway toward total electrification of their fleets. In 2022, when the services were more bullish on the timeline for adopting electric tactical vehicles, the Pentagon adopted a sustainability plan laying out steps to move toward the White House’s goal of making every vehicle in the U.S. military climate-friendly."

Tales from the galactically stupid.....

 

[WoodsmanVol]

As an environmentalist, I was all gung ho for EVs until incidents of the things catching fire during the Florida floods. Cars that are allergic to water, I understand, after all, cars can't swim. But water is supposed to put fires out, not start them. Until they come up with a battery that isn't lithium, and can give a car 300+ miles between charges, No Thank You.