Enemy of the People

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hog88 said:
And Obama criticized fox because they didn’t fall into lockstep with him.
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This isn't a CNN vs. Fox News thing. He's bashing all of the MSM. Remind me of the time Obama called Fox News "the enemy of the people". I'll wait.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Each television network is a small part of a much larger business. Their success or failure is primarily based on their ability to sell advertising time.
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It was either Murrow or Cronkite that warned the country when the networks (CBS, NBC, ABC) started expecting a profit from their news divisions.
 
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hog88 said:
And Obama criticized fox because they didn’t fall into lockstep with him.
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Publicly? Aside from some quips at the Correspondent's Dinner, I don't recall him ever being critical of Fox News (he definitely didn't call them "the enemy of the people"). You can't compare the rhetoric of Obama to that of Trump. Obama wasn't bombastic and hyperbolic the way Trump is.
 
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TennTom said:
This isn't a CNN vs. Fox News thing. He's bashing all of the MSM. Remind me of the time Obama called Fox News "the enemy of the people". I'll wait.
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I don’t think Obama ever said such a thing publicly and you’re right it’s not a CNN v Fox thing. They’re both trash and both are an enemy of the people since both spread propaganda.
 
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TennTom said:
It's funny that you ignored the entirety of my whole post and fixated on "dotard" because it hurt your feelz.
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The entirety of your post is ignorant and I was just pointing out your hypocrisy. You complain about supposed authoritarianism, then use a word that a dictator used, just dumb.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Publicly? Aside from some quips at the Correspondent's Dinner, I don't recall him ever being critical of Fox News (he definitely didn't call them "the enemy of the people"). You can't compare the rhetoric of Obama to that of Trump. Obama wasn't bombastic and hyperbolic the way Trump is.
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President Obama said in an interview with Rolling Stone magazine that Fox News promoted a point of view that was “destructive” to the growth of the United States.
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Obama Says Fox News Promotes 'Destructive' Viewpoint
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TennTom said:
I doubt it. Probably called Fox News that, because it's state run propaganda.
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You realize both sides play this game right? No one is clean. I used to check on CNN pretty regularly but I can’t anymore. Every day is a new giant font burble about the latest five alarm fire that is destroying our country. The “9/11” font used to be for major things like finding Saddam or the 05 tsunami. Now it’s once a month involving Trump. The hyperbole and bias that has permeated the news now makes it useless. Give me the news. Don’t give me the news as you've processed it and added your slant.
 
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TennTom said:
It speaks to what an oafish dolt he is. The most apt term yet by KJU. Better than Rex Tillerson's "f***ing moron'. Or John Kelly, Reince Priebus, and Steve Mnucin's "idiot". Or McMaster calling him a "dope". Or Gary Cohn's "dumb as sh*t". Even Thomas Barrack, a friend and adviser to Trump was quoted telling a friend that the president is “not only crazy, he’s stupid." These are cabinet members saying it, goof.
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Just curious, how many interviews has Tillerson done since being removed from office?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Publicly? Aside from some quips at the Correspondent's Dinner, I don't recall him ever being critical of Fox News (he definitely didn't call them "the enemy of the people"). You can't compare the rhetoric of Obama to that of Trump. Obama wasn't bombastic and hyperbolic the way Trump is.
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You only think that because one of those people is on your side.
I don’t like either.
They’re exactly the same
 
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evillawyer said:
The SS (Sarah Sanders) refuses to say the press is not the enemy of the people.

Sanders, Acosta in intense clash over Trump, press

I actually felt bad for her when Michelle Wolf ripped her a new one and when she was refused service at the Red Hen. Now, not so much.
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Yes because our glorious press is just so unbiased and honest. Lol. You would have likely bashed Sanders regardless of what she said. You libs continus to show nothing but ignorance and vitrio.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Fox News has no competition for conservative viewership. MSNBC and CNN compete with each other. And I believe that Maddow's show is currently in 3rd place with about 2.67 million viewers per night (just slightly behind Carlson for 2nd) even though she misses at least one night a week.

...and that "fair and balanced" mantra is obviously BS.
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You still believe MSNBC and CNN are more fairnand balanced than Fox because why? Hmmm, I would be willing to guess because one network likes Trump and the others dont. But hey, Fox is just right wing propaganda right? MSNBC and CNN have NO bias at all.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Not going to gum things up with another thread on media issues, so will just put this here.

Fox News has been absolutely obsessed this week with covering the disappearance of this young woman, a U of Iowa student, Mollie Tibbets. Other networks or outlets have stories on it, and it should be covered to hopefully find her. But, it has really stuck out to me that Fox has story after story about this and it is odd to me since disappearances unfortunately occur routinely. There is some reason that Fox is so focused on this. Anyone else seeing this?
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Because finding a missing child is more important than entertaining the crazy whack job ideas of liberals.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Fox News does this very thing all day long. Sean Hannity has even become an unofficial adviser to the President while also advocating for his policies and defending him against an investigation at night. The fact that you mention "The CNN scheme" but then say nothing about Sean Hannity, says a lot about what is honestly bothering you about the media. It's not the bias that bothers you. It's who their biased against.
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My quote clearly included Fox news, in the bag for the Republican party. They should be labeled propaganda outlet and 1st amendment rights revoked. MSNBC, CNN same goes. The mainstream media ABC, CBS, NBC are dangerously close.
 
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One or the repetitive themes that we hear from the media and from their echo chamber is that President’s Trump’s dismissal of the media as “Fake News” and “failing” is somehow a) and assault upon the First Amendment and b) encourages violence against the press. This whining is best encapsulated in a statement released earlier in the week by New York Times publisher Arthur Sulzberger after a meeting with President Trump:

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Sulzberger’s entire statement is nothing more than self-serving bullsh**. When one looks at the major stories retracted about the administration, it is clear that fact-checking and sourcing are no better in the national media than they are in any high school newspaper. And when one considers that 100% of the retracted stories have been negative, one is left wondering how all the mistakes can run in the same direction. As to the “enemy of the people” statment, I’m not a personal fan of it, but you can’t rationally expected someone who is daily vilified either as a Bozo or a Russian stooge or a Machiavelli who is taking us down the road to monarchy/dictatorship/despotism/rule-by-homeowner’s-association to simply ignore it either.

The Media Seems to Be the Instigator of Political Violence in America Not the Victim
 
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Honestly Acosta, while your point is well taken that the press is a target today for a lot of vitriol, with all due respect, you brought it on yourselves. And your preferred political allies on the left side of the aisle have helped, as word broke yesterday that Rep. Steve Scalise (R-LA), who was shot last year by a deranged Bernie bro while taking softball practice, has had his life threatened again.
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It’s fairly bizarre that, despite these new threats coming a month after Rep. Maxine Waters said this,…
Let's Talk About Enemies of the People While Steve Scalise's Life Is Threatened Again
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Honestly Acosta, while your point is well taken that the press is a target today for a lot of vitriol, with all due respect, you brought it on yourselves. And your preferred political allies on the left side of the aisle have helped, as word broke yesterday that Rep. Steve Scalise (R-LA), who was shot last year by a deranged Bernie bro while taking softball practice, has had his life threatened again.
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It’s fairly bizarre that, despite these new threats coming a month after Rep. Maxine Waters said this,…
Let's Talk About Enemies of the People While Steve Scalise's Life Is Threatened Again
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If we're being completely honest here, the problem that Trump supporters have with the "mainstream media" isn't their bias. It's who their biased against that bothers them. I have never heard either Trump or any of his supporters complain about the biases of Fox News, The New York Post, Breitbart, The Daily Caller, The Washington Times, Sinclair Broadcasting or The National Review.

Let's not forget that Trump himself has defended The National Enquirer. The publisher of the The National Enquirer (David Pecker - and yes, that is his real name) is a close friend of his. They have been successfully sued for libel numerous times (including a very famous suit by Carol Burnett in the early 80's) Trump has also advocated for Alex Jones and InfoWars. Does it really sound like "fake news" or a lack of honesty from the media bothers Trump? He just doesn't like it when the news isn't favorable to him... and his supporters echo whatever he says because they aren't capable of thinking for themselves.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
If we're being completely honest here, the problem that Trump supporters have with the "mainstream media" isn't their bias. It's who their biased against that bothers them. I have never heard either Trump or any of his supporters complain about the biases of Fox News, The New York Post, Breitbart, The Daily Caller, The Washington Times, Sinclair Broadcasting or The National Review.

Let's not forget that Trump himself has defended The National Enquirer. The publisher of the The National Enquirer (David Pecker - and yes, that is his real name) is a close friend of his. They have been successfully sued for libel numerous times (including a very famous suit by Carol Burnett in the early 80's) Trump has also advocated for Alex Jones and InfoWars. Does it really sound like "fake news" or a lack of honesty from the media bothers Trump? He just doesn't like it when the news isn't favorable to him... and his supporters echo whatever he says because they aren't capable of thinking for themselves.
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Womp womp..
 
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