Enemy of the People

[Rasputin_Vol]

All the press? Or just that which doesn’t share your opinions and views?

I'm speaking in general terms. I didn't think I needed to add the qualifier "not all".

 

[IPleadInsanity]

If we're being completely honest here, the problem that Trump supporters have with the "mainstream media" isn't their bias. It's who their biased against that bothers them. I have never heard either Trump or any of his supporters complain about the biases of Fox News, The New York Post, Breitbart, The Daily Caller, The Washington Times, Sinclair Broadcasting or The National Review.

Let's not forget that Trump himself has defended The National Enquirer. The publisher of the The National Enquirer (David Pecker - and yes, that is his real name) is a close friend of his. They have been successfully sued for libel numerous times (including a very famous suit by Carol Burnett in the early 80's) Trump has also advocated for Alex Jones and InfoWars. Does it really sound like "fake news" or a lack of honesty from the media bothers Trump? He just doesn't like it when the news isn't favorable to him... and his supporters echo whatever he says because they aren't capable of thinking for themselves.

Thats not true, I just complained about Fox news 4 posts ahead of yours.

The press was an important part of our security against the government, which is why the first amendment is in place. Now that they are all in the tank, who is our watchdog?

 

[theFallGuy]

If we're being completely honest here, the problem that Trump supporters have with the "mainstream media" isn't their bias. It's who their biased against that bothers them. I have never heard either Trump or any of his supporters complain about the biases of Fox News, The New York Post, Breitbart, The Daily Caller, The Washington Times, Sinclair Broadcasting or The National Review.

I don't watch Fox News.
There is nothing wrong with the NY Post or the Daily Caller. You just don't like the stories they cover.
I don't read the Washington Times.
National Review writers have been plenty critical of Trump prior to and post election.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Womp womp..

Just curious... When someone in the mainstream media points out that England is a single country on the island of Great Britain with Wales and Scotland and that The United Kingdom is made up of the political union between England, Wales and Scotland plus Northern Ireland, is that "fake news" to you? Or are you an educated enough of a person to think for yourself and not be as offensively ignorant as your dear leader? My guess is that you believe whatever Trump says... and that anything which runs counter to his ignorance must be wrong. Hence, your actual definition of "fake news".

"I have great respect for the U.K., ... United Kingdom. Great respect. People call it Britain. They call it Great Britain. They used to call it England, different parts." President Donald J. Trump speaking at a rally in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania on August 2, 2018

"You don't hear the word England as much as you should, ... I miss the name England. You understand that? I think England is a beautiful name." President Donald J. Trump after being presented with an England shirt during his interview with The Sun last month, in the middle of the World Cup, while he was in London, England.

 

[volfanjustin]

All the press? Or just that which doesn’t share your opinions and views?

The ones that pretend to be objective journalists but spend their days and nights lying to the people

 

[1972 Grad]

Just curious... When someone in the mainstream media points out that England is a single country on the island of Great Britain with Wales and Scotland and that The United Kingdom is made up of the political union between England, Wales and Scotland plus Northern Ireland, is that "fake news" to you? Or are you an educated enough of a person to think for yourself and not be as offensively ignorant as your dear leader? My guess is that you believe whatever Trump says... and that anything which runs counter to his ignorance must be wrong. Hence, your actual definition of "fake news".

"I have great respect for the U.K., ... United Kingdom. Great respect. People call it Britain. They call it Great Britain. They used to call it England, different parts." President Donald J. Trump speaking at a rally in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania on August 2, 2018

"You don't hear the word England as much as you should, ... I miss the name England. You understand that? I think England is a beautiful name." President Donald J. Trump after being presented with an England shirt during his interview with The Sun last month, in the middle of the World Cup, while he was in London, England.

Do they have 57 states, too?

 

[BowlBrother85]

Do they have 57 states, too?

I think you can see the big difference between a misstatement and Trump clearly not understanding (on more than one occasion - a month apart) that England still exists as a single country and that Great Britain is the island while the U.K. is a union including Northern Ireland. He incredibly made this mistake while he was in England. Can't you imagine the fool he probably made of himself while meeting with Queen Elizabeth II at Buckingham Palace?

 

[Septic]

The butthurt in this thread is hilarious.

 

[BowlBrother85]

The butthurt in this thread is hilarious.

The ignorance in the White House is hilarious. We seriously have a President who just met with Queen Elizabeth at Buckingham Palace but doesn't know that England is a country. He would flunk 8th grade World Geography... big time!

 

[Squints]

The butthurt in this thread is hilarious.

Now that you’re here.

 

[Grand Vol]

The butthurt in this thread is hilarious.

Starting with the OP.

 

[MG1968]

Just curious... When someone in the mainstream media points out that England is a single country on the island of Great Britain with Wales and Scotland and that The United Kingdom is made up of the political union between England, Wales and Scotland plus Northern Ireland, is that "fake news" to you? Or are you an educated enough of a person to think for yourself and not be as offensively ignorant as your dear leader? My guess is that you believe whatever Trump says... and that anything which runs counter to his ignorance must be wrong. Hence, your actual definition of "fake news".

"I have great respect for the U.K., ... United Kingdom. Great respect. People call it Britain. They call it Great Britain. They used to call it England, different parts." President Donald J. Trump speaking at a rally in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania on August 2, 2018

"You don't hear the word England as much as you should, ... I miss the name England. You understand that? I think England is a beautiful name." President Donald J. Trump after being presented with an England shirt during his interview with The Sun last month, in the middle of the World Cup, while he was in London, England.

I used to cringe every time I heard W or Obama speak in anything other than prepared, teleprompter-assisted statements. Trump is almost physically painful to listen to when speaking off-the-cuff.

I don't think any of the three are stupid, but damn, there are times when I miss the erudite elocution of Bill Clinton.

 

[BowlBrother85]

I used to cringe every time I heard W or Obama speak in anything other than prepared, teleprompter-assisted statements. Trump is almost physically painful to listen to when speaking off-the-cuff.

I don't think any of the three are stupid, but damn, there are times when I miss the erudite elocution of Bill Clinton.

They all made misstatements and malapropisms and at times employed poor grammar. Vice President Dan Quayle's greatest hits include:

"It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it."

"It's time for the human race to enter the solar system."

"It's wonderful to be here in the great state of Chicago."

"The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century."

"This President is going to lead us out of this recovery."

"What a terrible thing to have lost one's mind. Or not to have a mind at all. How true that is." (he was speaking about the United Negro College Fund and totally warbling their slogan "A Mind is a Terrible Thing to Waste"

However, I have never seen any President or VP, on multiple occasions, demonstrate a complete lack of basic knowledge and never correct himself. This wasn't a misstatement or malapropism. Trump simply doesn't know the difference between England, Great Britain and the United Kingdom... even though he owns a golf course in Scotland and spends much time there and his mother was even born there. That he doesn't know England is it's own country is hard to believe.

 

[BigOrangeD]

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[BowlBrother85]

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The problem is that Trump doesn't define "Fake News" as false information. He broadly defines it as anything which reflects negatively on him, whether it's factual or not is irrelevant. Once again, if he has a problem with false information, why has he defended both The National Enquirer and InfoWars who have both either been successfully sued or are currently being sued for purposely spreading misinformation? The reason that he likes both of them (as opposed to the mainstream media), is that they defend him and spread false information about people he doesn't like.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

All the press? Or just that which doesn’t share your opinions and views?

Do you like Fox news or Britbart?

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

If we're being completely honest here, the problem that Trump supporters have with the "mainstream media" isn't their bias. It's who their biased against that bothers them. I have never heard either Trump or any of his supporters complain about the biases of Fox News, The New York Post, Breitbart, The Daily Caller, The Washington Times, Sinclair Broadcasting or The National Review.

Let's not forget that Trump himself has defended The National Enquirer. The publisher of the The National Enquirer (David Pecker - and yes, that is his real name) is a close friend of his. They have been successfully sued for libel numerous times (including a very famous suit by Carol Burnett in the early 80's) Trump has also advocated for Alex Jones and InfoWars. Does it really sound like "fake news" or a lack of honesty from the media bothers Trump? He just doesn't like it when the news isn't favorable to him... and his supporters echo whatever he says because they aren't capable of thinking for themselves.

Wrong. It is their bias. Obviously you just fail to notice it because of your utter distatse for Trump. It really doesnt matter what Trump says or does, he is lambasted by the left wing media. I mean the guys wife and child have been trashed. Feel like blowing up the WH? Thats cool because its Trump. Calling the furst lady a tramp and hooker? Thats cool because its Trump. Vulgar comments about Trumps ypung son? Thats cool because its Trump. Celebrities publicly bashing him? People committing violent acts against his supporters? Thats cool because its Trump.

When Trump got rocket man to come to the table and at least discuss denuclearization and other things, that was a HUGE accomplishment. That was a very positive event. And it should have been viewed as that. But it wasnt. The lefties weighed in with their usual bias. Americans got a tax break. More jobs coming back, better unemployment, lower unemployment for minorities, these are all positive things. But what inevitably ends up happening? The left wing media bashes him for that as well. Or they focus on stupid **** like ketchup on a steak, how many ice cream scoops he got or how many diet cokes he drinks.

Its the MSM job to report news. Fine, then report it. But all networks should at least be able to give credit where it is due. If your favorite left wing news networks started reporting positive things about Trump, you probably would start bashing them for it.

 

[VolBraniac]

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Spin it, baby!

 

[BowlBrother85]

Wrong. It is their bias. Obviously you just fail to notice it because of your utter distatse for Trump. It really doesnt matter what Trump says or does, he is lambasted by the left wing media. I mean the guys wife and child have been trashed. Feel like blowing up the WH? Thats cool because its Trump. Calling the furst lady a tramp and hooker? Thats cool because its Trump. Vulgar comments about Trumps ypung son? Thats cool because its Trump. Celebrities publicly bashing him? People committing violent acts against his supporters? Thats cool because its Trump.

When Trump got rocket man to come to the table and at least discuss denuclearization and other things, that was a HUGE accomplishment. That was a very positive event. And it should have been viewed as that. But it wasnt. The lefties weighed in with their usual bias. Americans got a tax break. More jobs coming back, better unemployment, lower unemployment for minorities, these are all positive things. But what inevitably ends up happening? The left wing media bashes him for that as well. Or they focus on stupid **** like ketchup on a steak, how many ice cream scoops he got or how many diet cokes he drinks.

Its the MSM job to report news. Fine, then report it. But all networks should at least be able to give credit where it is due. If your favorite left wing news networks started reporting positive things about Trump, you probably would start bashing them for it.

You're conflating an assortment of things all under the umbrella of "fake news by the liberal media". A celebrity making fun of Trump's hair isn't fake news.

 

[SLICKYINC]

You're conflating an assortment of things all under the umbrella of "fake news by the liberal media". A celebrity making fun of Trump's hair isn't fake news.

Haters gonna hate..

 

[happy-go_vol]

The SS (Sarah Sanders) refuses to say the press is not the enemy of the people.

Sanders, Acosta in intense clash over Trump, press

I actually felt bad for her when Michelle Wolf ripped her a new one and when she was refused service at the Red Hen. Now, not so much.

She's absolutely right. The Press has become the enemy of the people. At least the enemy of true Americans. the media will support the Marxist and the Communist of this country. So you should be happy evillawyer

 

[SLICKYINC]

You're conflating an assortment of things all under the umbrella of "fake news by the liberal media". A celebrity making fun of Trump's hair isn't fake news.

When our service members came back from NK and landed in Hawaii. Why did CNN only cover 58 seconds worth of that and NBC covered it a zero. Can you explain why that isn't news or are you gonna spin it and something about infowars?

What we're saying is that you guys focus on Stormy and Trumps hair and just say screw anything that should matter.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

You're conflating an assortment of things all under the umbrella of "fake news by the liberal media". A celebrity making fun of Trump's hair isn't fake news.

Not surprised by your response. Its a typical deflection when a well thought out argument stifles you. I am not talking about a celebrity making fun of Trumps hair. I have made fun of his hair. I am talking about the ones who have talked about killing him publicly. Or the idiots who wish the economy would tank just to get him out of office. I mean the bashing goes on and on.

Look at what Time magazine did with their cover depicting that poor little kid with Trump. Or the photos that depicted refugees sleeping in horrible conditions that occured in the Obama administration. That was used against Trump. Thats just a few examples of fake news. You can ignore it all you want but the MSM has made things up to admonish Trump.

 

[BowlBrother85]

When our service members came back from NK and landed in Hawaii. Why did CNN only cover 58 seconds worth of that and NBC covered it a zero. Can you explain why that isn't news or are you gonna spin it and something about infowars?

What we're saying is that you guys focus on Stormy and Trumps hair and just say screw anything that should matter.

It's fine to complain about their bias but simply having a bias isn't fake news. Fake news pertains to the intentional spread of misinformation; stories fabricated from scratch.

 

[1972 Grad]

They all made misstatements and malapropisms and at times employed poor grammar. Vice President Dan Quayle's greatest hits include:

"It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it."

"It's time for the human race to enter the solar system."

"It's wonderful to be here in the great state of Chicago."

"The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century."

"This President is going to lead us out of this recovery."

"What a terrible thing to have lost one's mind. Or not to have a mind at all. How true that is." (he was speaking about the United Negro College Fund and totally warbling their slogan "A Mind is a Terrible Thing to Waste"

However, I have never seen any President or VP, on multiple occasions, demonstrate a complete lack of basic knowledge and never correct himself. This wasn't a misstatement or malapropism. Trump simply doesn't know the difference between England, Great Britain and the United Kingdom... even though he owns a golf course in Scotland and spends much time there and his mother was even born there. That he doesn't know England is it's own country is hard to believe.

Can you folks impeach him for that?