ESPN article on OK QB Trevor Knight

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Grand Vol said:
I think you are implying you will either go 10-2 or undefeated.

If your team starts believing in the trash Stoops is talking about the SEC, they will go into the game with UT overconfident and cocky. And that tends to get one a beating. OU is a sporadic team that tends to drop games they very well should win like you did with Texas last year and almost lost to a sub par TCU team at home.

This UT squad has something to prove this year and I wouldn't underestimate the potential based off a lackadaisical performance by a Bama team that was still butthurt about not going to the championship. It's football and anything can happen.
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And Owen needs to give up writing a dissertation every time he posts, learn how to condense ones thoughts.
 
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owenfieldreams said:
Every fan base has it's idiots who know very little but continually make outlandish comments.

OU fans are, for the most part, extremely knowledgeable, but we have our share of dumb-a---s.

I have said this on other threads on this forum but the bigger worry about Knight is his health, not his skill. I expect him to continue to improve and while he may not have one individual game performance to rival the Sugar Bowl, if he is consistently good, OU's O will be potent, to say the least. Knight is a true dual-threat QB and when he takes off running, it's hold-your-breath time for all Sooners. He's got decent size @ 6'1" & about 200lbs but he has shown a tendency to suffer minor but debilitating injuries.

I expect OU to limit his actual carries out of the zone-read knowing that the threat of a running QB is all that really matters but there will be times when he will scramble out of a bad play and that is when bad things can happen.

You can expect us to build our O scheme around a punishing, down-hill running attack behind a veteran and huge O-line, an extremely talented FB/HB and a RB rotation of big, fast, & physical RB's. Knight will compound the problem with the "threat" of a running QB but where he will hurt you most is off of play-action. He throws really well on the run.
Right now, Soph. Alex Ross, 6'1", 221lbs., is running with the ones in practice but the expectation is that he will rotate with Keith Ford, who you saw in the Sugar Bowl. Ford, is also a Soph., @ 5'11", 202lbs. We have consistently rotated our RB's, even when we had AD toting the mail.
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Mixon
 
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UT_Dutchman said:
And Owen needs to give up writing a dissertation every time he posts, learn how to condense ones thoughts.
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I appreciate the detailed information he shares because it would take a good amount of digging to find it myself (digging that I don't care enough about Oklahoma to do, frankly). I do agree that it doesn't always have to be so detailed, though.
 
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It would be interesting if one of you experts on Vol football would share your thoughts on your team rather than responding defensively to my comments. I'm just here to provide a service.
 
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owenfieldreams said:
It would be interesting if one of you experts on Vol football would share your thoughts on your team rather than responding defensively to my comments. I'm just here to provide a service.
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I'm not an expert but I'll voice my opinion.

We have a young team and with a young team anything can happen. Hopefully they perform well, if they don't I won't blame them.

Your team on the other hand, has a POS coach that likes to run his yap. As I've heard before, don't let your alligator mouth overload your tadpole ass.

We'll play the game and find out who wins.
 
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Power T-Rev said:
This is what happens when Sooners and Bammers get together

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Ok, this qualifies you for a lifetime ban. I just threw up in my mouth.
 
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owenfieldreams said:
It would be interesting if one of you experts on Vol football would share your thoughts on your team rather than responding defensively to my comments. I'm just here to provide a service.
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If you're looking for information about Volunteer football, you might want to try a UT message board and look around their football forum.

Oh wait...

I don't know if you noticed, but I'm out here in Oklahoma. And I read the papers, see the blogs, listen to the sports radio and I'm a lot closer to the Big 12 action than I am the SEC. And honestly? Oklahoma has yet to prove anything beyond getting a preseason ranking in the top 5. And that preseason ranking doesn't mean diddly squat after week 1.

But what you have proved is you have a coach that likes to give thugs that like to beat women a spot on the team. And he likes to run his mouth. And I hope and pray each and every night the Vols go into Gaylord Stadium and kick the every lovin snot out of the Sooners.
 
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OU hardly ever lives up the preseason rankings they get. Seems like they always lose a couple and have good years, and then the hype gets up and they are overrated. I think they have a great shot with knight, lots of potential. But the bottom line is that OU is historically overrated and hopefully they come into the game unprepared for a fight.
 
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I will try to offer an objective point-of-view on OU that addresses several of the comments I have read on this thread and forum.

Trevor Knight was somewhat inconsistent last year but more than that he started very poorly and improved throughout the season. That should not be a shocker given that he was a freshman. I know no better than any of you how he will play vs. Tennessee. I do believe if he comes out playing well against La Tech, it will go along way in convincing me that it is more improvement than inconsistency.

Much has been made of OU's high ranking. Well, when you are frequently ranked in the top 5, there is not much room to overachieve but there is plenty of room to underachieve. On the other hand, I do believe this team might be overrated. I see this ranking as the byproduct of (a) Some huge wins down the stretch last season and (b) OU's big-name reputation.

The risks for this team in my view are (a) Knights play as stated above (b) a poor showing last season vs. the run when playing physical teams and (c) a new secondary. Many will point to inexperience at RB and WR but those are far and away the best recruited positions on the team. There are several 4-star recruits at both positions. I think OU is more worthy of about #10 ranking at this point.

Lastly, I do see OU winning this game but I admittedly do not know much about Tennessee. If Tennessee can commit and execute a physical run-game, OU has been vulnerable. Texas, OSU and Alabama ran right over OU. If Tennessee falls behind or turns the ball over and resorts to passing, that is playing to OU's strength. OU is a very aggressive, opportunistic pass defense. Specifically, OU won the Turnover battle 9-3 down the stretch vs. KSU, OSU and Alabama. Nearly every turnover was either an INT or fumble caused by a sack in the pass game.
 
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NorthCalSooner said:
I will try to offer an objective point-of-view on OU that addresses several of the comments I have read on this thread and forum.

Trevor Knight was somewhat inconsistent last year but more than that he started very poorly and improved throughout the season. That should not be a shocker given that he was a freshman. I know no better than any of you how he will play vs. Tennessee. I do believe if he comes out playing well against La Tech, it will go along way in convincing me that it is more improvement than inconsistency.

Much has been made of OU's high ranking. Well, when you are frequently ranked in the top 5, there is not much room to overachieve but there is plenty of room to underachieve. On the other hand, I do believe this team might be overrated. I see this ranking as the byproduct of (a) Some huge wins down the stretch last season and (b) OU's big-name reputation.

The risks for this team in my view are (a) Knights play as stated above (b) a poor showing last season vs. the run when playing physical teams and (c) a new secondary. Many will point to inexperience at RB and WR but those are far and away the best recruited positions on the team. There are several 4-star recruits at both positions. I think OU is more worthy of about #10 ranking at this point.

Lastly, I do see OU winning this game but I admittedly do not know much about Tennessee. If Tennessee can commit and execute a physical run-game, OU has been vulnerable. Texas, OSU and Alabama ran right over OU. If Tennessee falls behind or turns the ball over and resorts to passing, that is playing to OU's strength. OU is a very aggressive, opportunistic pass defense. Specifically, OU won the Turnover battle 9-3 down the stretch vs. KSU, OSU and Alabama. Nearly every turnover was either an INT or fumble caused by a sack in the pass game.
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You forgot to add Bob Stoops likes to run his mouth.
 
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The comments are amazing, even by ESPN standards. And I fully expect to get tthumped by OU,we're just not there yet.
 
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Clearly, the majority of the posters on this board are so lacking in any real understanding of the OU program that their only play is to resort to personal attacks on our head coach.......and this from a fan base that watched Phil throw Johnny Majors under the bus.

You folks have been irrelevant far too long and it has affected your psyche.

What is really amazing is that the comments Bob has made are not now nor have they ever been about the Tennessee program. But of course, if you are in the SEC, there's this conference thing.

I came on this board thinking I could engage in some real honest dialogue about the up coming game. I did the same on Tide Fans years ago and to this day I still enjoy a strong relationship with the posters over there. I guess it pretty much substantiates what Bob has been saying.....there's Alabama & then there's the rest of the SEC.

My suggestion to you all is to pull out all your old film of Dewey "Swamprat" Warren & Richmond Flowers so you can reminisce about the good old days.....Oh, I forgot, we beat those guys too.

BOOMER SOONER!
 
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Grand Vol said:
You forgot to add Bob Stoops likes to run his mouth.
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Yep, he does. He has shown time and time again he does not care what the media thinks or reports of him. He does what he does and whatdyagonnadoaboutit? You know? As he said, where's he wrong in his assessment? I think at some point in time when he first mentioned it, the upper echelon of sec teams enjoyed some sort of like 36-0 or so record vs the lower sec teams. Seems the lower tier sec teams aren't exactly holding their weight vs the big boys. Even in the big 12, the bottom dwellers can steal wins once in a while.

In reality, isnt that a fair point to make? Or is it unfair? Or what issue do you have with that?
 
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LittleCat said:
OU hardly ever lives up the preseason rankings they get. Seems like they always lose a couple and have good years, and then the hype gets up and they are overrated. I think they have a great shot with knight, lots of potential. But the bottom line is that OU is historically overrated and hopefully they come into the game unprepared for a fight.
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True, it's happened, OU has been over-rated by the media in the past. Not OU's fault. They expect to have a great season. In the past injuries have tempered some of these over-rated team. They will not be unprepared for a fight; not early in the season where anything can happen. It's a mistake to sit on a team, they learned that last year against texas. If they dont enter this game prepared for a fight they dont deserve to win.
 
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owenfieldreams said:
Clearly, the majority of the posters on this board are so lacking in any real understanding of the OU program that their only play is to resort to personal attacks on our head coach.......and this from a fan base that watched Phil throw Johnny Majors under the bus.

You folks have been irrelevant far too long and it has affected your psyche.

What is really amazing is that the comments Bob has made are not now nor have they ever been about the Tennessee program. But of course, if you are in the SEC, there's this conference thing.

I came on this board thinking I could engage in some real honest dialogue about the up coming game. I did the same on Tide Fans years ago and to this day I still enjoy a strong relationship with the posters over there. I guess it pretty much substantiates what Bob has been saying.....there's Alabama & then there's the rest of the SEC.

My suggestion to you all is to pull out all your old film of Dewey "Swamprat" Warren & Richmond Flowers so you can reminisce about the good old days.....Oh, I forgot, we beat those guys too.

BOOMER SOONER!
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I like this guy, as a Vol fan, I feel he's pretty on point.
 
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NorthCalSooner said:
I will try to offer an objective point-of-view on OU that addresses several of the comments I have read on this thread and forum.

Trevor Knight was somewhat inconsistent last year but more than that he started very poorly and improved throughout the season. That should not be a shocker given that he was a freshman. I know no better than any of you how he will play vs. Tennessee. I do believe if he comes out playing well against La Tech, it will go along way in convincing me that it is more improvement than inconsistency.

Much has been made of OU's high ranking. Well, when you are frequently ranked in the top 5, there is not much room to overachieve but there is plenty of room to underachieve. On the other hand, I do believe this team might be overrated. I see this ranking as the byproduct of (a) Some huge wins down the stretch last season and (b) OU's big-name reputation.

The risks for this team in my view are (a) Knights play as stated above (b) a poor showing last season vs. the run when playing physical teams and (c) a new secondary. Many will point to inexperience at RB and WR but those are far and away the best recruited positions on the team. There are several 4-star recruits at both positions. I think OU is more worthy of about #10 ranking at this point.

Lastly, I do see OU winning this game but I admittedly do not know much about Tennessee. If Tennessee can commit and execute a physical run-game, OU has been vulnerable. Texas, OSU and Alabama ran right over OU. If Tennessee falls behind or turns the ball over and resorts to passing, that is playing to OU's strength. OU is a very aggressive, opportunistic pass defense. Specifically, OU won the Turnover battle 9-3 down the stretch vs. KSU, OSU and Alabama. Nearly every turnover was either an INT or fumble caused by a sack in the pass game.
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How do you explain Baylor?
 
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ajvol01 said:
How do you explain Baylor?
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How to explain losing to the big 12 champs, who were #5 in passing and #13 in rushing, nationally? Easy, OU held up until the woes of the offense eventually the tired D started to give up points and it was like an avalanche after that. IT was a very good game but behind Bell the OU offense was much more predictable and easier to stop. No excuses here, but in OU's only two losses all year, Knight didnt start, barely if at all played. All I can say is that Knight will be the QB next year and revenge will be ever so sweet.
 
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After reading up in the big 12 I think I understand a little better now why our visiting sooner friends feel the need to talk ther team up so much.

The big 12 is honestly in a state of flux and once you scratch the surface it's easy to see why. Baylor, the 2013 champs played 6 games last year that most any d1 school in the country could win, got embarrassed by OKST, and then lost to central florida in their bowl game.

Like Baylor, Oklahoma played a cake walk out of conference schedule and never could seem to get going, and stay going, in the right direction. Basically their whole season was the bama win. If they had lost that game they would be heading into this season ranked 17-20.

I'm about to board a flight but in a nutshell, they are trying to convince themselves just as much as they are us. I still think we lose this game. But that's to be expected honestly
Vs any top 20 team this year.
 
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owenfieldreams said:
Clearly, the majority of the posters on this board are so lacking in any real understanding of the OU program that their only play is to resort to personal attacks on our head coach.......and this from a fan base that watched Phil throw Johnny Majors under the bus.

You folks have been irrelevant far too long and it has affected your psyche.

What is really amazing is that the comments Bob has made are not now nor have they ever been about the Tennessee program. But of course, if you are in the SEC, there's this conference thing.

I came on this board thinking I could engage in some real honest dialogue about the up coming game. I did the same on Tide Fans years ago and to this day I still enjoy a strong relationship with the posters over there. I guess it pretty much substantiates what Bob has been saying.....there's Alabama & then there's the rest of the SEC.

My suggestion to you all is to pull out all your old film of Dewey "Swamprat" Warren & Richmond Flowers so you can reminisce about the good old days.....Oh, I forgot, we beat those guys too.

BOOMER SOONER!
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Dont let a few of our fans rile you up mate. Most of us value having opposing fans come post on these boards and you have been a good poster, I for one appreciate your information and viewpoint.

As for your Coach he trash talks our conference unnecessarily to make himself look good and that makes us angry so we all have to understand and live with that. He is simply jealous of the SEC and he shows it on the national stage.

About the game, I believe OU is a solid team and a contender for the playoffs this year and I don't think we will beat you. I HOPE we give you a tough game and keep it close and if we get some breaks MAYBE pull out a UPSET. Believe me if we where to get the breaks and win it would be an upset.

on any given Saturday anybody can win.

cheers
 
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NorthCalSooner said:
I will try to offer an objective point-of-view on OU that addresses several of the comments I have read on this thread and forum.

Trevor Knight was somewhat inconsistent last year but more than that he started very poorly and improved throughout the season. That should not be a shocker given that he was a freshman. I know no better than any of you how he will play vs. Tennessee..
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Really? He threw for a 43% and 50% completion rating in 2 of his last 4 conference games and was pedestrian at best with zero passing TDs. Oh wait, he really whipped up on Kanas with 1 TD and 1 INT. You're sort of proving my point made above.
 
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owenfieldreams said:
Clearly, the majority of the posters on this board are so lacking in any real understanding of the OU program that their only play is to resort to personal attacks on our head coach.......and this from a fan base that watched Phil throw Johnny Majors under the bus.

You folks have been irrelevant far too long and it has affected your psyche.

What is really amazing is that the comments Bob has made are not now nor have they ever been about the Tennessee program. But of course, if you are in the SEC, there's this conference thing.

I came on this board thinking I could engage in some real honest dialogue about the up coming game. I did the same on Tide Fans years ago and to this day I still enjoy a strong relationship with the posters over there. I guess it pretty much substantiates what Bob has been saying.....there's Alabama & then there's the rest of the SEC.

My suggestion to you all is to pull out all your old film of Dewey "Swamprat" Warren & Richmond Flowers so you can reminisce about the good old days.....Oh, I forgot, we beat those guys too.

BOOMER SOONER!
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Oh yeah the sooners beat us bad..... had us on the ropes through the first half then in the second we came back like gang busters.... by the way, had that kick by Carl Kremser been called correctly we win ....:)

I do agree with you about the way Fulmer did Majors... but the fan base had no call in that situation :hi:
 
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owenfieldreams said:
It would be interesting if one of you experts on Vol football would share your thoughts on your team rather than responding defensively to my comments. I'm just here to provide a service.
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Don't let the negativity get to you, it's Volnation. Really, this should be a blowout on paper, but it's an interesting game with a lot of questions. Was the Bama game a fluke? Do your guys overlook us? Does the Stoops trash talking inflate your confidence to dangerous levels? Does Knight keep on shining? How well has our team come together? Is our offense as high powered as it has the potential to be or does limited QB and/or poor line play prevail? It's a tough one for us for sure.
 
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