Ethnic Profiling

#76
#76
emainvol said:
oh, we are talking about ethnic profiling, and i am returning to my original argument. throughout history people of white european ancestry have caused as much crap as anyone, including the muslims we should be profiling
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They are not the majority of the ones causing it now. If they were I would hope like hell that I was searched more thoroughly than non-white people when getting on a plane.
 
#79
#79
When you see a guy driving to the airport on one of these is it profiling?

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#81
#81
emainvol said:
for starters, everything that is being argued. and if you want to play my arguments off as irrelevant you should most certainly think yours through a bit more
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I asked an honest question and you come back with, "everything". Thanks for your insight.
 
#83
#83
enough of the back and forth stuff. you wanna know where i have the problem with your argument? we talk about ethnic profiling, you tell us athletes are profiled. thanks buddy, great argument. then you tell us how discrimination is not bad when you are keeping child molesters out of your basement, which is once again off topic. THEN to top it all off you have the nerve to imply that my argument is irrelevant. how very astute of you, i am impressed by the lack of time you have spent building a valid argument while attempting to shoot down all of mine with points that are completely off-topic. so, why don't you google it, and then get back to me.
 
#84
#84
Reflect back and take the following multiple choice test. The events are actual cuts from past history.
Do you remember?

1.1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by
a. Superman
b. Jay Leno
c. Harry Potter
d . Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40

2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by

a. Olga Corbett
b. Sitting Bull
c. Arnold Schwarzenegger
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:
a. Lost Norwegians
b. Elvis
c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

4. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
a. John Dillinger
b. The King of Sweden
c. The Boy Scouts
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
a. A pizza delivery boy
b. Pee Wee Herman
c. Geraldo Rivera
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and 70 year old Leon Klinghoffer, an American passenger confined to a wheelchair, was murdered and thrown overboard by:
a. The Smurfs
b. Davy Jones
c. The Little Mermaid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and Robert Stidham, a US Navy diver was murdered by:
a. Captain Kidd
b. Charles Lindberg
c. Mother Teresa
d . Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

8. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
a. Scooby Doo
b. The Tooth Fairy
c. Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid
d . Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
a. Richard Simmons
b. Grandma Moses
c. Michael Jordan
d . Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
a. Mr. Rogers
b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill' s women problems
c. The World Wrestling Federation
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

11.On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take out the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by:
a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
b. The Supreme Court of Florida
c. Mr. Bean
d . Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
a. Enron
b. The Lutheran Church
c. The NFL
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
a. Bonnie and Clyde
b. Captain Kangaroo
c. Billy Graham
d . Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

Nope, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you?
So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people. They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winning and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40 alone because of profiling.
 
#85
#85
if it weren't for carlos the jackal, jose padilla, richard reid, tim mcveigh, terry nichols, eric rudolph, the michigan militia (it's just a matter of time), the IRA, the Nov. 17 group (i believe that is their name), the guy with the nerve gas in japan (can't remember his name off the top of my head either) and a plethora of others that have been outside of your spectrum i would agree. the problem is, the moment you start trusting ethnic profiling, is the exact moment that a bunch of disillusioned white kids from southern ohio kill 100 people. sorry buddy, you won't convince me.
 
#86
#86
emainvol said:
if it weren't for carlos the jackal, jose padilla, richard reid, tim mcveigh, terry nichols, eric rudolph, the michigan militia (it's just a matter of time), the IRA, the Nov. 17 group (i believe that is their name), the guy with the nerve gas in japan (can't remember his name off the top of my head either) and a plethora of others that have been outside of your spectrum i would agree. the problem is, the moment you start trusting ethnic profiling, is the exact moment that a bunch of disillusioned white kids from southern ohio kill 100 people. sorry buddy, you won't convince me.
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I see what you're saying, but just because you turn your security more towards profiling tactics doesn't mean you have to give up everything else and do only that.

Ever wondered why Israel never has any airplane troubles?
 
#88
#88
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There are plenty more groups than the above mentioned ranging from many different backgrounds and cultures.

What is the alternative to ethnic profiling?

Why are you knocking Ohio, we have the largest population of KKK members, somalians ,per capita, in the United States...............

Do we watch the somalians "more" because of their failed attacks on the Easton Town Centre or Polaris Fashion Place, or the KKK and their political power in Northeast Ohio, specifically Medina County?

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#89
#89
emainvol said:
enough of the back and forth stuff. you wanna know where i have the problem with your argument? we talk about ethnic profiling, you tell us athletes are profiled. thanks buddy, great argument. then you tell us how discrimination is not bad when you are keeping child molesters out of your basement, which is once again off topic. THEN to top it all off you have the nerve to imply that my argument is irrelevant. how very astute of you, i am impressed by the lack of time you have spent building a valid argument while attempting to shoot down all of mine with points that are completely off-topic. so, why don't you google it, and then get back to me.
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Not off topic. The points I was making about "profiling" and "discrimination", is that these terms have been politicized and bastardized. Just because either of these two activities are performed does not mean that something bad has occurred. There are plenty of times when these activites are performed that people are ok with, they just don't realize it because the media or culture does not use these terms in anyway that would sound good. I doubt there is ever an instance you would hear the media use "discriminate" in anything other than a negative way. If you hear that term on the news it is automatically used in regards to someone being discsriminated against for a bad reason.
 
#90
#90
allvol123 said:
Not off topic. The points I was making about "profiling" and "discrimination", is that these terms have been politicized and bastardized. Just because either of these two activities are performed does not mean that something bad has occurred. There are plenty of times when these activites are performed that people are ok with, they just don't realize it because the media or culture does not use these terms in anyway that would sound good. I doubt there is ever an instance you would hear the media use "discriminate" in anything other than a negative way. If you hear that term on the news it is automatically used in regards to someone being discsriminated against for a bad reason.
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took you awhile. i respect your opinion, but i think you are wrong. i also think the point you are arguing is completely different from the one i am trying to make, but you don't see it that way. let's agree to disagree.

:peace2: brother
 
#91
#91
emainvol said:
took you awhile. i respect your opinion, but i think you are wrong. i also think the point you are arguing is completely different from the one i am trying to make, but you don't see it that way. let's agree to disagree.

:peace2: brother
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ok/ agreeing to disagree. :crossfingers:
 
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