Expect Huckabee to be in the crosshairs tonight

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oklavol said:
IMO there's not enough Congressional support to pass a Fair Tax. It's a moot point.
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It's definitely still a little bit of a pipe dream, but the bill is now up to 65 co-sponsors in the House so it's not exactly a moot point.
 
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GAVol said:
CNN also just acknowledged that the gay General that they allowed to stand up and filibuster about gays in the military might have possibly worked on a steering committee for Hillary Clinton.

Unbelievable that they would let somebody stand up and hammer on a wedge issue during a Presidential debate, much less an overt partisan.
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Yeah....that is too much.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I'm not sure the general public realizes that nuance. I've certainly heard plenty of arguments for the FT, but again, and I will close with this, I haven't heard anyone come out and say that the FT would eliminate the IRS. What I've heard is that it would simplify our tax returns to the size of a postcard. The way I had understood the FT was that there would still be a need for the IRS as a collecting/enforcement agency.
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The supporters of the FairTax do. And that is why he actually stated the position on abolishing the IRS. It brings that to the forefront for those who don't know.

Read Rep. John Linder's bill he's tried to get to the forefront. It mentions it there.
 
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CNN is taking some shots over the gay ex-General that they allowed to stand up and editorialize at the debate last night. It's a little unbelievable that somebody at CNN didn't realize this was a Clinton operative pushing a controversial issue and trying to ambush the debate.
 
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From what I understand, YouTube brought in a few of the people whose videos were aired to allow CNN to ask if they were happy with the responses.

I think it's a stretch to blame them for not knowing. The questions were from all across the spectrum and YouTube brought in a mix of those people. It's a controversial issue even within the GOP and the military itself. How could anyone automatically assume that this question would be loaded from Hillary's campaign? I think they were caught off guard and let the guy stammer through his point. They were stupid for letting him go on so long but to blame them for a Hillary connection is a little much.
 
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From what I saw and what I heard pundits saying, the winners were probably Huckabee and McCain. While Giuliani and Romney were bickering, Huckabee and McCain were giving straightforward answers. Huckabee definitely had the best line of the night when talking about Jesus and the death penalty.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
From what I understand, YouTube brought in a few of the people whose videos were aired to allow CNN to ask if they were happy with the responses.

I think it's a stretch to blame them for not knowing. The questions were from all across the spectrum and YouTube brought in a mix of those people. It's a controversial issue even within the GOP and the military itself. How could anyone automatically assume that this question would be loaded from Hillary's campaign? I think they were caught off guard and let the guy stammer through his point. They were stupid for letting him go on so long but to blame them for a Hillary connection is a little much.
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It was reported this morning that CNN flew him to the debate --
 
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I think Mitt will take hits in the south with the flag issue and his religious values stances. He looked like a preacher in a sex toy shop trying to answer the infallible Bible question. He started off fine but the more he spoke the worse he looked.

Shocking he did not bring up the Book of Mormon or his own beliefs. Is he THAT afraid of people knowing he's a Mormon?
 
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CSpindizzy said:
From what I understand, YouTube brought in a few of the people whose videos were aired to allow CNN to ask if they were happy with the responses.

I think it's a stretch to blame them for not knowing. The questions were from all across the spectrum and YouTube brought in a mix of those people. It's a controversial issue even within the GOP and the military itself. How could anyone automatically assume that this question would be loaded from Hillary's campaign? I think they were caught off guard and let the guy stammer through his point. They were stupid for letting him go on so long but to blame them for a Hillary connection is a little much.
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I think the question was fine. Where I have a little bit of a problem is that they went the extra step of giving the guy a microphone and letting him get on a soapbox. I'm not going to say that it was an outright attempt to sabotage the debate, but the guy being a former General who is gay, is not your average Joe. You'd think somebody would have known.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
I think Mitt will take hits in the south with the flag issue and his religious values stances. He looked like a preacher in a sex toy shop trying to answer the infallible Bible question. He started off fine but the more he spoke the worse he looked.

Shocking he did not bring up the Book of Mormon or his own beliefs. Is he THAT afraid of people knowing he's a Mormon?
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I also expect Giuliani's answer to the gun question where he used the words "reasonable Government regulation" to become an opposition sound byte in campaign commercials in the South.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
Link?
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FOXNews.com - CNN Allows Clinton Backer to Question GOP Candidates in YouTube Debate - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum


As for Kerr, he has been an activist against the military's don't-ask-don't-tell policy for years. He appeared on CNN twice in 2003 discussing his opposition to the policy that says service men and women will be dismissed from service for revealing their gay orientation. But as if reading from that policy Wednesday, Kerr told FOX News that CNN "never asked" him if he is a Clinton supporter so he "never told."
Kerr submitted the question for Republican candidates at the video debate "a couple months ago," and said last Saturday CNN called him and said they'd like him to come to the debate. He said the cable news network paid for his flight, his hotel and his transportation to and from the event.
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Don't ask, don't tell in action! :)
 
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GAVol said:
From what I saw and what I heard pundits saying, the winners were probably Huckabee and McCain. While Giuliani and Romney were bickering, Huckabee and McCain were giving straightforward answers. Huckabee definitely had the best line of the night when talking about Jesus and the death penalty.
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Huck seems to be gaining momentum. You think he has a legit shot to win the nomination?
 
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GAVol said:
I also expect Giuliani's answer to the gun question where he used the words "reasonable Government regulation" to become an opposition sound byte in campaign commercials in the South.
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Yep. Like I said in an earlier post I think each of the front runners lost a certain element of the base with some of the answers. I think this was the most influential debate as far as issues getting movement on people's support for certain candidates.
 
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What I couldn't figure out was in the post-debate analysis when Bill Bennett kept talking about how well Romney had done. I was thinking he is either a total shill for Romney or he just wasn't watching.
 
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I think it's funny how Bennett, Malkin, etc. are all up in arms this morning that there is some massive CNN/liberal conspiracy with the submission of questions and which ones were picked. No one ever claimed these were strictly GOP questions. They were all from across the spectrum. Malkin's up in arms about a few who are rabid and declared Obama and Edwards supporters. Can the other side not ask questions? Give me a break.
 
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GAVol said:
What I couldn't figure out was in the post-debate analysis when Bill Bennett kept talking about how well Romney had done. I was thinking he is either a total shill for Romney or he just wasn't watching.
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He is a Romney shill. He clearly had that opinion from 8pm on. It's rediculous to think Romney was just that darn good.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
I think it's funny how Bennett, Malkin, etc. are all up in arms this morning that there is some massive CNN/liberal conspiracy with the submission of questions and which ones were picked. No one ever claimed these were strictly GOP questions. They were all from across the spectrum. Malkin's up in arms about a few who are rabid and declared Obama and Edwards supporters. Can the other side not ask questions? Give me a break.
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The whole "controversy" over the questioners is dumb. Although it was a little odd that one member of their GOP focus group mentioned that she is looking to support John Edwards. :blink:
 
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CSpindizzy said:
Can the other side not ask questions? Give me a break.
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I don't have a problem with the "other side" asking questions.

I wonder what the reaction would be if a democratic debate was on Fox and Fox brought in a Romney or Guilliani supporter?

Also, I wonder what the Democratic answer to the General's question is? CNN should at least plant him in the Democratic Debate and see who on that side wants to take a definitive stand on the gays in the military issue.
 
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GAVol said:
The whole "controversy" over the questioners is dumb. Although it was a little odd that one member of their GOP focus group mentioned that she is looking to support John Edwards. :blink:
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She's one of those who votes on looks. She votes for the prettiest man up there. Romney was a close second.
 
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Somebody needs to tell Romney that hair gel doesn't play well in Middle America.
 
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volinbham said:
I don't have a problem with the "other side" asking questions.

I wonder what the reaction would be if a democratic debate was on Fox and Fox brought in a Romney or Guilliani supporter?

Also, I wonder what the Democratic answer to the General's question is? CNN should at least plant him in the Democratic Debate and see who on that side wants to take a definitive stand on the gays in the military issue.
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YouTube and CNN executives told some reporters that YouTube paid for those people to come. Are you telling me that none of the questions asked on Fox debates are Dem-leaning questions?

CNN and YouTube NEVER advertised that as a strictly Republican question debate. It was open to all to submit. Grover Norquist was a plant as well as Buzz Brockway. They were plants on the GOP side. No one says a thing about that though.

Again, you are assuming CNN knew ahead of time whether each one of these people were declared supporters of some other campaign. And who cares if they are? Again, what is wrong with supporters of various groups sending in questions whether loaded or legit? CNN never sold it as such and those getting their panties in a wad over it are plain nuts.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
Again, what is wrong with supporters of various groups sending in questions whether loaded or legit? CNN never sold it as such and those getting their panties in a wad over it are plain nuts.
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Don't you think though that it's one thing to allow the question into the debate . . . and it's taking it to another level when you hand a guy a microphone in the middle of a Presidential debate to bang the drum on a wedge issue? You could tell 3 seconds into that guy's monologue that it was going nowhere fast. Anderson Cooper seemed to be mentally looking for a lever to open a trap door.

At the very least, it was a bad idea.
 
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