Expectations next year?

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THEONLYTENISEE said:
Other than the game in Sevierville, what’s reasoning for not playing away games midweek?
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I’m not sure what the reasoning was this year, but in the past we have played some away games midweek. But, I assume that as you get better there is less of an appeal to traveling to Lipscomb or ETSU to play a game. I bet we’ll play at least one on the road next year.
 
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GregAmsler said:
1) Joyce was coming off a serious arm injury.
2) I’m not sure what “offers” means, but he wasn’t drafted.
3) Joyce is a redshirt junior, not a senior, meaning he didn’t lose bargaining leverage coming back after last year. That’s everything in baseball.

There is an enormous difference in the way a baseball player approaches the draft than a basketball or football player and a lot of our new baseball fans don’t understand that. It’s about slotted money at particular picks, teams strategically going over or under the amounts for those slots, and how much leverage a kid has due to eligibility left. For example, someone will get a steal on Trey Lipscomb this year because he has very little bargaining leverage being a senior.

No one comes back to get his degree if it means giving up gobs of money due to leverage forfeiture. That’s not how any of this works. And it’s not what Ben Joyce did.
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Depends on your definition of "gobs of money". Also, and most important, a player accepts or declines an offer prior to being drafted. It's not the NFL. NCAA baseball players have a choice in when & where they go in the MLB draft. As for coming off a major injury impacting a pitchers draft? Look at the pitchers in this years draft that had Tommy J and sat this year. i.e., Dylan Lesko, Connor Prielipp, Peyton Pallette, Landon Simms, and on and on.
 
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GOBO-Baseball02 said:
Depends on your definition of "gobs of money". Also, and most important, a player accepts or declines an offer prior to being drafted. It's not the NFL. NCAA baseball players have a choice in when & where they go in the MLB draft. As for coming off a major injury impacting a pitchers draft? Look at the pitchers in this years draft that had Tommy J and sat this year. i.e., Dylan Lesko, Connor Prielipp, Peyton Pallette, Landon Simms, and on and on.
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Agree with all of this. But Joyce came back because he had leverage. You simply do not come back for a final year unless you have no choice.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
I’m not sure what the reasoning was this year, but in the past we have played some away games midweek. But, I assume that as you get better there is less of an appeal to traveling to Lipscomb or ETSU to play a game. I bet we’ll play at least one on the road next year.
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This was my guess, the smaller schools would rather have the guaranteed money and travel.
 
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drylo said:
Hard to argue with our offense this year — even in the supers. It was ND rocking our pitching that cost us in Game 1. (Game 3 was a little of everything.)
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Yup. We had a good hitting team. No complaints at all in that regard. Infield defense was a bit iffy at times, but the pitching and offense were outstanding for a college team. Hats off to the coaching staff!!
 
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Jax_Vol said:
Probably better defense in center than Seth. But, has to work on both hitting, and hitting for power, to earn an every day spot. Bulk up!

Christian can do it!
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If he plays elite center field defense, he could walk and hit nothing but singles all year and I'd be happy with that.
 
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GOBO-Baseball02 said:
I'm sure acquiring a Finance Degree was very important to him. That's called "Plan B"...something a lot of players do not follow thru on.
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They do if it’s very important to them.

If it’s important enough to sacrifice hundreds of thousands in money due to loss of leverage, it’s important enough to come beck and finish during the off-season. The latter just makes more sense.
 
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youcancallmeAl said:
Doesn't he have a covid year of eligibility left? I think so. If so, he has his leverage intact.
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That’s an interesting topic that I’ve discussed with folks who know more than me. Draft analysts don’t seem to think it does provide the player leverage, although I’m not sure why…other than the fact that MLB teams aren’t recognizing it as a bargaining chip. But I’m with you…it should.
 
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THEONLYTENISEE said:
There were some injuries his last year. I was told years ago, that boosters ran off him. Delmonico wanted money put into the program. I was surprised he never did much after Tennessee. Pretty sure he was an assistant at FSU.
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Admin cared very little about baseball and were fine with Delominco.

His last year they were predicted to be good but weren't and he got a little heat from some media and bristled over it. And in an interview with the media he made some comment that basically dared the AD to fire him. Left Hamilton very little choice especially since he challenged him publicly.
 
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youcancallmeAl said:
If he plays elite center field defense, he could walk and hit nothing but singles all year and I'd be happy with that.
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Yeah. I thought he was somewhere between Seth and Drew. Too small of sample size for me to tell. Hope he makes it to elite.

Drew is a heck of a defensive centerfielder. I'm always amazed when they look at a ball, turn their back to it, run to the wall, turn back around, re-find the ball in the sky, and catch it there. He did that easily in Hoover at 1:30 am.
 
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GregAmsler said:
They do if it’s very important to them.

If it’s important enough to sacrifice hundreds of thousands in money due to loss of leverage, it’s important enough to come beck and finish during the off-season. The latter just makes more sense.
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I'm glad the VFL program is helping those who want to finish their degree.

Get it before you reach late 20's. It just gets harder as you age.
 
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Bigun said:
Admin cared very little about baseball and were fine with Delominco.

His last year they were predicted to be good but weren't and he got a little heat from some media and bristled over it. And in an interview with the media he made some comment that basically dared the AD to fire him. Left Hamilton very little choice especially since he challenged him publicly.
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We were being docked scholarships under him due to APR penalties and were probably going to be postseason banned because of it too. That didn’t help his cause.
 
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THEONLYTENISEE said:
Other than the game in Sevierville, what’s reasoning for not playing away games midweek?
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We want to pace ourselves to build up toward the end. The mid-week game is to keep starters sharp for a few innings, and see how the bench and bullpen stacks up. The cycle we had this year was within about 45 minutes of being perfect.

Like a roller coaster, you start up up up, then take a little down ride mid-season and then rise higher at the end. We fell off the track approaching the second peak.
 
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Jax_Vol said:
Yeah. I thought he was somewhere between Seth and Drew. Too small of sample size for me to tell. Hope he makes it to elite.

Drew is a heck of a defensive centerfielder. I'm always amazed when they look at a ball, turn their back to it, run to the wall, turn back around, re-find the ball in the sky, and catch it there. He did that easily in Hoover at 1:30 am.
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That's a rare talent. Drew has good speed, not elite, but he gets a great jump on balls. I think he projects as a leadoff hitting CF in pro ball.
 
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Jax_Vol said:
Yeah. I thought he was somewhere between Seth and Drew. Too small of sample size for me to tell. Hope he makes it to elite.

Drew is a heck of a defensive centerfielder. I'm always amazed when they look at a ball, turn their back to it, run to the wall, turn back around, re-find the ball in the sky, and catch it there. He did that easily in Hoover at 1:30 am.
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I love that you threw in “at 1:30 am.” That’s an important detail. I can’t even tell you my name at 1:30 am. 😂
 
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