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To all the ones blaming the coaches and the ones who believe our talent is just as good as everyone else in the SEC explain this one thing:

13 FRESHMAN AND WALK-ONS IN THE 2-DEEP ROTATION

How are you suppose to win the SEC east with that?

What scheme will get us 8 wins with that?

What battle tested SEC coordinator will help us have a top notch defense or offense with that?
 
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GBOVOLS said:
To all the ones blaming the coaches and the ones who believe our talent is just as good as everyone else in the SEC explain this one thing:

13 FRESHMAN AND WALK-ONS IN THE 2-DEEP ROTATION

How are you suppose to win the SEC east with that?
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I haven't heard anyone saying that our talent is a good as everyone else. Our talent is better than Vandy. I also think in that 1 game (1 game folks) we were out-coached.
 
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GBOVOLS said:
To all the ones blaming the coaches and the ones who believe our talent is just as good as everyone else in the SEC explain this one thing:

13 FRESHMAN AND WALK-ONS IN THE 2-DEEP ROTATION

How are you suppose to win the SEC east with that?

What scheme will get us 8 wins with that?

What battle tested SEC coordinator will help us have a top notch defense or offense with that?
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You can't apply common sense to some Tennessee football fans, they will never understand! Same principal applies to electing our current government leaders!
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I didnt expect to win the east and I like our head coach but I did expect us to beat a vandy team that had to have 59 plus minutes to score 14 points.
 
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jkleno said:
I haven't heard anyone saying that our talent is a good as everyone else. Our talent is better than Vandy. I also think in that 1 game (1 game folks) we were out-coached.
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I have heard it plenty of times. Today alone and our talent isn't any better than Vandy they don't have that issue my friend.
 
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Butch just needs time to get talent in orange, as it stands now, the coaching is under a microscope, talent will (should) fix all or most of the poor execution and vanilla style we witnessed last night.

Brick by brick, well as of right now there's only one brick, and that would be the current recruiting class, if it holds up that is.
 
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seerob22 said:
I didnt expect to win the east and I like our head coach but I did expect us to beat a vandy team that had to have 59 plus minutes to score 14 points.
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That wasn't a coaching problem that was an execution problem. If they would have given up or weren't discipline that would be coaching problem. But you are pointing out execution issues which are player problems.
 
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GBOVOLS said:
To all the ones blaming the coaches and the ones who believe our talent is just as good as everyone else in the SEC explain this one thing:

13 FRESHMAN AND WALK-ONS IN THE 2-DEEP ROTATION

How are you suppose to win the SEC east with that?

What scheme will get us 8 wins with that?

What battle tested SEC coordinator will help us have a top notch defense or offense with that?
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Don't create a straw man argument. Who in the world has said we expected to win the SEC East this year? Nobody.

What I've read and posted, is that we expected to see a better coached, more competitive team that was improving as the year went on. That simply hasn't been the case, at all. The last 4 games, which includes 3 embarrassing blowouts and a home loss to Vanderbilt are the evidence.
 
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Yeah! I don't care how much of a great Coach one is, he can't teach athletic ability. Either the player has it or he doesn't. That's why some players are 2* and some are 5*!! Butch Jones stepped right into a Lane Kiffin/Derek Dooley mess. It took at least 8 to 10 years to get into that mess and It will take a while for CBJ to get us out of that mess. Therefore, our best option is to give him our support!! I am confident that Tennessee will get better in time.
 
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GBOVOLS said:
To all the ones blaming the coaches and the ones who believe our talent is just as good as everyone else in the SEC explain this one thing:

13 FRESHMAN AND WALK-ONS IN THE 2-DEEP ROTATION

How are you suppose to win the SEC east with that?

What scheme will get us 8 wins with that?

What battle tested SEC coordinator will help us have a top notch defense or offense with that?
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Fulmer,Chief and Cutcliff,since you asked :)
 
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bbeacham said:
Yeah! I don't care how much of a great Coach one is, he can't teach athletic ability. Either the player has it or he doesn't. That's why some players are 2* and some are 5*!! Butch Jones stepped right into a Lane Kiffin/Derek Dooley mess. It took at least 8 to 10 years to get into that mess and It will take a while for CBJ to get us out of that mess. Therefore, our best option is to give him our support!! I am confident that Tennessee will get better in time.
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Athletic ability? With respect to the WRs:

Croom 4star
North 4star
Bowles 4star
Howard 4star
Harris 4star
 
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KBVol said:
Don't create a straw man argument. Who in the world has said we expected to win the SEC East this year? Nobody.

What I've read and posted, is that we expected to see a better coached, more competitive team that was improving as the year went on. That simply hasn't been the case, at all. The last 4 games, which includes 3 embarrassing blowouts and a home loss to Vanderbilt are the evidence.
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Ok but still man explain to me how where they suppose to be competitive with team with 13 freshman and walkons in the rotations. No matter how you cut it man you can't compete in the SEC with a rotation like that.
 
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I said it in an earlier thread. Vanderbilt does have better talent than Tennessee. We may have higher recruited players. We may have higher stars. But most of the talent at Tennessee has yet to be developed. Its not about speedy athletes. Its not about bigger players. Its about players with a high IQ and more knowledge of what they are doing. So that also translates to more talent. Sorry guys. But facts are facts. Vanderbilt 7-4 Tennessee 4-7. Deal with it for another year.
 
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GBOVOLS said:
That wasn't a coaching problem that was an execution problem. If they would have given up or weren't discipline that would be coaching problem. But you are pointing out execution issues which are player problems.
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When you can't execute after spring/fall practices and 11 games, it's coaching.
 
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GBOVOLS said:
To all the ones blaming the coaches and the ones who believe our talent is just as good as everyone else in the SEC explain this one thing:

13 FRESHMAN AND WALK-ONS IN THE 2-DEEP ROTATION

How are you suppose to win the SEC east with that?

What scheme will get us 8 wins with that?

What battle tested SEC coordinator will help us have a top notch defense or offense with that?
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You are correct. Our fans need to take a moment and realize how far the program has fallen. In time, it will rise again.
 
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deaconkane said:
When you can't execute after spring/fall practices and 11 games, it's coaching.
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Dude introducing a new system no it isn't. It's no changing your mind man. No need to talk sense into you. You are just dumb. And if you can't execute after spring/fall practice and 11 games you probably didn't deserve a scholarship in the first place.
 
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GBOVOLS said:
Ok but still man explain to me how where they suppose to be competitive with team with 13 freshman and walkons in the rotations. No matter how you cut it man you can't compete in the SEC with a rotation like that.
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I agree to a certain extent. We took 10 walkons on the road to play Oregon this year. Ridiculous. I agree you can't beat a team of that caliber with 10 walkons.

That's not my point. I'm disappointed because I don't see one shred if improvement, but rather significant regression since the SCar game. I know we played 3 very difficult teams but we weren't remotely competitive in any if those games. Now throw in the absolute disaster that was the Vandy loss last night.

It's 100% clear to me that this team has not been well coached and has not improved at all. That's my gripe.
 
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cwbytruckers said:
I said it in an earlier thread. Vanderbilt does have better talent than Tennessee. We may have higher recruited players. We may have higher stars. But most of the talent at Tennessee has yet to be developed. Its not about speedy athletes. Its not about bigger players. Its about players with a high IQ and more knowledge of what they are doing. So that also translates to more talent. Sorry guys. But facts are facts. Vanderbilt 7-4 Tennessee 4-7. Deal with it for another year.
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I appreciate and respect your thoughts. However, I think you are misusing the word talent. Vandy played better as a team and they also out coached us. They have the benefit of playing in a system for 3 years now and they have confidence- especially brought on by their HC. There is no way you can go player by player and say they have more talent. As poorly as we have played over the last years, the NFL is still loaded with VOLS. And young VOLS too. I am sure we will once again have 4-5 players drafted (even this year). I think the NFL is probably the best "talent" judgers. They are wrong sometimes, but they are better than you or I. After this year though, the "cupboard" might be bare come draft day 2015.
 
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