Explain this please

#76
#76
gasguy98 said:
Please don't say that. If Jones is the guy it has to be better.
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I believe he means that the 2 deep will be full of freshmen next year. I agree with him. If talent is what we are lacking and we can keep this class together then we are going to have to play A LOT of freshmen to be competitive.
 
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#80
GBOVOLS said:
To all the ones blaming the coaches and the ones who believe our talent is just as good as everyone else in the SEC explain this one thing:

13 FRESHMAN AND WALK-ONS IN THE 2-DEEP ROTATION

How are you suppose to win the SEC east with that?

What scheme will get us 8 wins with that?

What battle tested SEC coordinator will help us have a top notch defense or offense with that?
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Bama has that many. That's how.
 
#81
#81
GBOVOLS said:
To all the ones blaming the coaches and the ones who believe our talent is just as good as everyone else in the SEC
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So basically you are challenging absolutely no one, right? I have not seen a single soul say that about UT's talent. As far as blaming the coaches goes... I've only seen that happen over things that they failed on.

explain this one thing:

13 FRESHMAN AND WALK-ONS IN THE 2-DEEP ROTATION

How are you suppose to win the SEC east with that?
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Who asked him to win the east like that? We asked that they be competitive in every game at least for awhile and to beat Vandy.

Dooley played 17 or 18 in both of his 1st two years. His downfall the first year was that his team could compete for a half but then collapsed due to talent, lack of adjustments, or some combination.

In the now infamous loss to UK that began the end for Dooley, five Fr started. Four others were JUCO's or transfers.

Of the games Dooley lost by 2 TD's or more in '10: Oregon was a 13-13 tie at the half. UF was 7-3 UF. UGA was 27-7. Bama was 13-10 Bama. USCe was 10-10.

Out of 5 games that ended uncompetitive... Dooley was in 4 of them at the half.

By comparison, Jones was trailing Bama, Oregon, Auburn, and Mizzou by at least 14 points at the half this year.... UF by 10. IOW's, they didn't even compete for a half and it did NOT get better as the season progressed.

This is by no stretch a defense of Dooley... simply a PROOF that even a BAD coach can show up better than these guys did this year.


What scheme will get us 8 wins with that?
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Maybe none. But Dooley and gang came up with good enough schemes to win six.

What battle tested SEC coordinator will help us have a top notch defense or offense with that?
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There are several. Do you really want names? The D DEFINITELY would have been better under several other DC's in the SEC alone. That's not to say Jancek cannot improve... only that he has to and has a very long way to go.
 
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jkleno said:
I haven't heard anyone saying that our talent is a good as everyone else. Our talent is better than Vandy. I also think in that 1 game (1 game folks) we were out-coached.
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They had the best player. 87. It is what it is.
 
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GBOVOLS said:
To all the ones blaming the coaches and the ones who believe our talent is just as good as everyone else in the SEC explain this one thing:

13 FRESHMAN AND WALK-ONS IN THE 2-DEEP ROTATION

How are you suppose to win the SEC east with that?

What scheme will get us 8 wins with that?

What battle tested SEC coordinator will help us have a top notch defense or offense with that?
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Anyone have the numbers of freshmen for other SEC teams? Would he interesting to see. Also, next year we will have the same problem.
 
#85
#85
loservol said:
Whose responsibility is it to bring in a QB? Has he recruited a QB yet? Is he looking for a QB from any Jr colleges? Without a good or even decent QB, Butch will not get any consistent play from any of the incoming recruits.
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He inherited 2 and recruited 2. Worley sucked early but was developing as evidenced by the UGA and USCe games. Then he got hurt. He was down to 2 freshmen ...both of which seem to have measurable talent but are indeed..freshmen. I know I know ..there have been great freshmen QBs . They are the exception rather than the rule. Not sure if you want a platoon or garrison of QBs ...but when you have 4 you cant expect 3 of the 4 to be hurt and you cant blame anyone for this.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
CBJ was out coached in this game. He should've taken the 3 points. I don't know what he was thinking. Points are a premium with this offense. A freshman QB killed us. Bad decision making by a true freshman QB. The 16 yard loss on the sack, checking into the wide run on 3rd and 1. I was so frustrated.
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Ok, we take the 3 points, final score 14 - 13.
Now are you happy?
 
#88
#88
tennvols77 said:
Fact is there should have been a minimum of 2 games that we lost that should have been W's.

You play to win, not playing to try and not lose. We should have never have lost to vandy- period. Coaching killed this game.
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Which game besides Vandy do you believe we should have won.

Escape Goat said:
Another one sentence post by Yankee vol. Please explain how it won't be better. Are you capable of typing a paragraph, or does your brain shut off after one thought?
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Can you not type a post without insulting someone? Did you just contribute anything to the thread whatsoever? Seriously.

Have you seen the schedule and the roster next year? It's hard to see more than five wins as it stands. Obviously, we're going to need to see improvement from a lot of the current roster and we need a lot of our incoming guys to contribute right away. As we've seen this year, the SEC is not a league where you prefer to start too many true freshman.

Your turn to explain why we will be better.
 
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#89
You can tell it has been a long and frustrating season when Freak gets snippy.
But to the point...
I see six wins next season as our ceiling once again. True, we have a great class incoming and will need some major contributions from them. Keep in mind that as talented as they are, they're still freshmen. Inexperience will get in the way of consistency. Another thing to consider is the chance of a few not panning out. It's not something that any of us like to think about when we look at that class but it's a real possibility.
 
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Doyle Hargraves said:
You can tell it has been a long and frustrating season when Freak gets snippy.
But to the point...
I see six wins next season as our ceiling once again. True, we have a great class incoming and will need some major contributions from them. Keep in mind that as talented as they are, they're still freshmen. Inexperience will get in the way of consistency. Another thing to consider is the chance of a few not panning out. It's not something that any of us like to think about when we look at that class but it's a real possibility.
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Sorry. I didn't mean to be snippy, I just don't understand jumping in a thread and insulting someone for not contributing and then leaving without contributing. I'm pissed off enough about losing to Vandy and I'm tired of threads where people just want to attack each other instead of discussing things. :hi:

I agree with you. As nauseating as it is, next year is likely going to be yet another struggle for a winning record.
 
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#91
The only other game we could have won was Georgia. However, that was probably one of the best coached games I've seen on Tennessee's side. That game we def played to win.
 
#92
#92
Should have beat Georgia. Who would have thought the Gators would have been our bad loss for the year but it was.. Twilight zone.
 
#93
#93
That was a different Florida team. They didn't have as many injuries and were playing with confidence.
 
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#94
GBOVOLS said:
To all the ones blaming the coaches and the ones who believe our talent is just as good as everyone else in the SEC explain this one thing:

13 FRESHMAN AND WALK-ONS IN THE 2-DEEP ROTATION

How are you suppose to win the SEC east with that?

What scheme will get us 8 wins with that?

What battle tested SEC coordinator will help us have a top notch defense or offense with that?
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Who said anything about winning the SEC East or 8 wins? How about 6 wins and beat Vandy
 
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#95
cherokeechief said:
Bama has that many. That's how.
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Apples and oranges Chief. UT has been playing their Freshmen out of necessity. There are no other options.

Bama plays/mixes in all their freshmen as a luxury to get them experience and build depth going forward. Also, all those freshmen are high 4 and occasionally 5 star players.

Finally, I'm willing to bet Bama does not play any walkons anywhere at anytime for any reason. If they have any walkons they sure as hell don't start or play nickel. Nearly 20% of UT's travel roster this year has been composed of walkons .... how about Bama's?
 
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Freak said:
Didn't mean to be snippy, I just don't understand jumping in a thread and insulting someone for not contributing and then leaving without contributing. I'm pissed off enough about losing to Vandy and I'm tired of threads where people just want to attack each other instead of discussing things. :hi:

I agree with you. As nauseating as it is, next year is likely going to be yet another struggle for a winning record.
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I agree that next year will probably be a struggle and on paper it certainly looks to be, but one never knows. College football is such a crap shoot anymore, look at Mizzou and Auburn this year, who would have thought they'd have a season like they've had this year. I'm struggling to find more than 5 wins next year but maybe this team and this coaching can grow, learn and improve and surprise us next season. One can hope and hope is about all I got left at this point.
 
#97
#97
Cartervol said:
Should have beat Georgia. Who would have thought the Gators would have been our bad loss for the year but it was.. Twilight zone.
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You're right about Florida. After nearly 30 years I've come to understand one thing as certain as death and dirty politicians... good loss or bad loss, the Florida game is ALWAYS a loss.
 
#98
#98
jamesthesame said:
That was a different Florida team. They didn't have as many injuries and were playing with confidence.
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Florida was a very winnable ballgame, the Gators tried every way in the world to give us that game but our staff and team just simply refused to take it.
 
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JOEY'S ALL VOL !!! said:
I agree that next year will probably be a struggle and on paper it certainly looks to be, but one never knows. College football is such a crap shoot anymore, look at Mizzou and Auburn this year, who would have thought they'd have a season like they've had this year. I'm struggling to find more than 5 wins next year but maybe this team and this coaching can grow, learn and improve and surprise us next season. One can hope and hope is about all I got left at this point.
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Sunshine pumper. :p

I think we are all hoping to be surprised, but it's hard to feel very confident when you go through the schedule one game at a time. Regardless, I'm excited to see thirty-something new faces suit up in orange next year.
 
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