Explain this please

#26
#26
Really need to flush out the roster to climb back .. Basically 50 recruits coming in over the next 2 classes is a great start.
 
#27
#27
To all the ones blaming the coaches and the ones who believe our talent is just as good as everyone else in the SEC explain this one thing:

13 FRESHMAN AND WALK-ONS IN THE 2-DEEP ROTATION

How are you suppose to win the SEC east with that?



What scheme will get us 8 wins with that?

What battle tested SEC coordinator will help us have a top notch defense or offense with that?


Winning the East and beating Vandy are two things a million miles away from each other. Don't confuse that.
 
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To all the ones blaming the coaches and the ones who believe our talent is just as good as everyone else in the SEC explain this one thing:

13 FRESHMAN AND WALK-ONS IN THE 2-DEEP ROTATION

How are you suppose to win the SEC east with that?

What scheme will get us 8 wins with that?

What battle tested SEC coordinator will help us have a top notch defense or offense with that?

All 8 of our SEC opponents and Oregon have more Freshmen and Sophomores in there 2 deep, I get tired of hearing this argument.
 
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Dude introducing a new system no it isn't. It's no changing your mind man. No need to talk sense into you. You are just dumb.

He's dumb for expecting a team that's been practicing a new system for 6 to 9 months to actually be executing it by now?
 
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I agree to a certain extent. We took 10 walkons on the road to play Oregon this year. Ridiculous. I agree you can't beat a team of that caliber with 10 walkons.

That's not my point. I'm disappointed because I don't see one shred if improvement, but rather significant regression since the SCar game. I know we played 3 very difficult teams but we weren't remotely competitive in any if those games. Now throw in the absolute disaster that was the Vandy loss last night.

It's 100% clear to me that this team has not been well coached and has not improved at all. That's my gripe.

You can't compete week in and out with that regardless how you want to look at it man those same walkons are on the field when we played Auburn, Mizzou, Alabama, and Vandy. You will feel a lot better when you leave the 90's man this is not the same TN get over it.
 
#31
#31
I said it in an earlier thread. Vanderbilt does have better talent than Tennessee. We may have higher recruited players. We may have higher stars. But most of the talent at Tennessee has yet to be developed. Its not about speedy athletes. Its not about bigger players. Its about players with a high IQ and more knowledge of what they are doing. So that also translates to more talent. Sorry guys. But facts are facts. Vanderbilt 7-4 Tennessee 4-7. Deal with it for another year.

Or maybe Frankie just gets more out of his talent..its possible.
 
#32
#32
Butch just needs time to get talent in orange, as it stands now, the coaching is under a microscope, talent will (should) fix all or most of the poor execution and vanilla style we witnessed last night.

Brick by brick, well as of right now there's only one brick, and that would be the current recruiting class, if it holds up that is.

Signing day can't get here quick enough!!!!!
 
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Dude introducing a new system no it isn't. It's no changing your mind man. No need to talk sense into you. You are just dumb. And if you can't execute after spring/fall practice and 11 games you probably didn't deserve a scholarship in the first place.[/QUOT

Are you in the 4th grade with that sentence structure? Name calling is usually a result of a low iq also. Doesn't matter either way, sheep gonna be sheep.
 
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#34
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He's dumb for expecting a team that's been practicing a new system for 6 to 9 months to actually be executing it by now?

Yes because a large portion of those months coaches can't have contact with them. Most of the guys starting in the rotation on the team was in high school up until June, some didn't make it to campus until July, a large portion of them are walk-on, the other large portion are freshman, you have player on defense who are exhausted playing 70+ plays. So no matter how you cut it, its hard for this team to compete when other team are in the third year of their system, they have seniors and juniors in their rotation, they can rotate player and keep them fresh, and they aren't adjusting to being away from their parents. So tell me what team you think will be more competitive.
 
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I feel like this one is more on the coaches than maybe any other game this season, but yeah, certainly no reason to jump ship. Let BJ get his men in and then we'll see
 
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Dude introducing a new system no it isn't. It's no changing your mind man. No need to talk sense into you. You are just dumb. And if you can't execute after spring/fall practice and 11 games you probably didn't deserve a scholarship in the first place.

Are you in the 4th grade with that sentence structure? Name calling is usually a result of a low iq also. Doesn't matter either way, sheep gonna be sheep.

No my IQ is pretty high that's why I have a degree from UT and won the business plan competition on campus. If you would like I can provide you with my LinkedIn profile.
 
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No my IQ is pretty high that's why I have a degree from UT and won the business plan competition on campus. If you would like I can provide you with my LinkedIn profile.

Thats badass man. Congrats.
 
#38
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I haven't heard anyone saying that our talent is a good as everyone else. Our talent is better than Vandy. I also think in that 1 game (1 game folks) we were out-coached.

yes ...we should have came up with an awesome scheme to complete passes.

I think it is obvious that the thing we are lacking is a QB . Dobbs may be great one day ...but for now he is a typical freshman . Notice Worley struggled early this season and then matured some and almost beat UGA and did beat USCe

Everything would have looked great Sat if we could pass and catch
 
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What a bunch of crap. No one expected a 10 win season, but there has been no point during this season in which we have looked like a well coached team. All I hear is excuses for clearly terrible coaches on this staff. "Talent is terrible"; "Dooley poisoned these players"; "They don't fit the system", etc., etc.

It certainly is possible to see decent coaching with a team that lacks talent. It's done all the time.
 
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All 8 of our SEC opponents and Oregon have more Freshmen and Sophomores in there 2 deep, I get tired of hearing this argument.

There team wasn't built around freshman and walkons. I just checked man we are one of teams playing the most freshmen in the SEC top that with the number two schedule in the country how do you expect to win. Oregon was not starting any freshman when we played. You made that up my friend.
 
#41
#41
I didnt expect to win the east and I like our head coach but I did expect us to beat a vandy team that had to have 59 plus minutes to score 14 points.

Agreed. There's absolutely no excuse for losing to a sorry ass Vandy team. This one is on everybody from the head coach down to the waterboy.
 
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There team wasn't built around freshman and walkons. I just checked man we are one of teams playing the most freshmen in the SEC top that with the number two schedule in the country how do you expect to win. Oregon was not starting any freshman when we played. You made that up my friend.

He said freshmen and sophomores, not just freshmen.
 
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#44
u guys make more freaking excuses before the season cbj was going to coach.them up n the up/tempo off was going to wear out the/opp.. his spread is all power unlike other spread/read options etc--

now the season is over n this staff/cant win 6 freaking games n u guys r defending a freaking vandy loss.. think about that a vandy loss...

no excusing two weeks to prepare n they lay an egg.. yes we have him two more years but this/loss will never go away.. u dont lose to vandy n not make a bowl game n then all of sudden start winning sec championships.. ..

8 wins is the best this staff will ever do.. 6 wins n.avg 5 wins underacheive.. 4/wins n they sux..

u cant defend that crap sat.. sunshine sheep get over it he is trending down at this point.. n by all means keep donating n buying season tickets...
 
#45
#45
Dude introducing a new system no it isn't. It's no changing your mind man. No need to talk sense into you. You are just dumb. And if you can't execute after spring/fall practice and 11 games you probably didn't deserve a scholarship in the first place.

Are you in the 4th grade with that sentence structure? Name calling is usually a result of a low iq also. Doesn't matter either way, sheep gonna be sheep.

Says the guy calling others sheep...
 
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#46
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I appreciate and respect your thoughts. However, I think you are misusing the word talent. Vandy played better as a team and they also out coached us. They have the benefit of playing in a system for 3 years now and they have confidence- especially brought on by their HC. There is no way you can go player by player and say they have more talent. As poorly as we have played over the last years, the NFL is still loaded with VOLS. And young VOLS too. I am sure we will once again have 4-5 players drafted (even this year). I think the NFL is probably the best "talent" judgers. They are wrong sometimes, but they are better than you or I. After this year though, the "cupboard" might be bare come draft day 2015.

No I didn't misuse the term talent. Your a star gazer. Talent means a hell of a lot more than past players in the NFL. Talent also means they know what the hell they are doing. Turn off the Xbox.
 
#47
#47
6-7 wins would have sufficed for me. 6 or 7. You scheme and you put players in positions to make plays. We have players that have been here 1-2 years like Pig and Croom that weren't given the option to win the game for us. Dobbs can throw the ball. We've seen it the past 3 weeks. Not confident. You force the kid to throw his way out of his funk, by giving him 5 yard check downs, slants or crossing routes where all he has to do is throw it to 1-2 players or throw it away and the receivers can go open. You run 3,5,7 step drops with quick throws. They have been here for 13 weeks at least and eventually you give your young players confidence to play and you don't worry about mistakes as they will happen. That didn't happen.
 
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To all the ones blaming the coaches and the ones who believe our talent is just as good as everyone else in the SEC explain this one thing:

13 FRESHMAN AND WALK-ONS IN THE 2-DEEP ROTATION

How are you suppose to win the SEC east with that?

What scheme will get us 8 wins with that?

What battle tested SEC coordinator will help us have a top notch defense or offense with that?

Which one of those Freshman, or walk-on's made the decision to fake a FG instead of taking the points late in the 4th qtr, and we didn't expect to win the East, we expect to beat Vandy...
 
#50
#50
Explain this to everyone, why are the coaches never at fault for anything ? What we saw was horrible offensive and defensive play calling period.
 

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