Explain your contempt for Erik Ainge?

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Just a mere curiosity post, why do a lot of Tennessee fans not like Erik Ainge?

Did you like him his freshman season?

What turned you against him?

Get as deep as you want too on this one.

I.E.: I do not like Erik Ainge because he is from the North/West and the economic background of those living in that area is greater than in the South/East.

Or get as shallow as you want too.

I just think he sucks!
 
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I'm not sure how I feel about a thread where the only pupose is to bash one of our own players. :ermm:
 
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Originally posted by RockyTopEmpire@Dec 15, 2005 10:38 AM
opening a can of worms..
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It's already been opened. More like beating the dead horse over and over and over and over again...

Ainge and that's 16 Pages worth..
 
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There are many reasons, but the one that completely sealed the door on his fate, in my opinion, was sliding a good two yards shy of the first down marker in the ND game this year. It was 3rd down, 3rd quarter, and we were only down by 7 at the time. After that change of possession, Notre Dame took the momentum and never looked back.

The best UT QBs have always been willing to take the hits, Ainge's two intentional groundings in the end zone and his INT in the LSU game are more than enough evidence to show that he really doesn't have the heart, or mind, to ever be a big time QB.

I remember Peyton and Casey Clausen going shoulder first into defenders when we needed those last couple of feet. Shuler and Martin were basically running backs who could throw the ball (same with Todd Helton and Jerry Colquitt.) Schaeffer's career at UT ended because he hung in and took that hit on the sideline in the SC game (completing that 30 yard pass to keep the drive alive.) Again, Ainge has never shown any of that. Which is probably why the kid continues to fantasize about shooting hoops on the sideline...a much less contact endeavor.
 
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I'm not sure how I feel about a thread where the only pupose is to bash one of our own players.
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This is the exact reason why I started the post.

I do not find it reasonable to bash Erik Ainge endlessly. I was kicked off of another Tennessee website because I was an advocate of Erik Ainge and not of Rick Clausen.

Why do people have contempt for Erik Ainge since he wears the T?

Whomever may close the topic. I apologize for making the post.
 
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Originally posted by sonofajohn@Dec 15, 2005 11:48 AM
There are many reasons, but the one that completely sealed the door on his fate, in my opinion, was sliding a good two yards shy of the first down marker in the ND game this year.  It was 3rd down, 3rd quarter, and we were only down by 7 at the time.  After that change of possession, Notre Dame took the momentum and never looked back.

The best UT QBs have always been willing to take the hits, Ainge's two intentional groundings in the end zone and his INT in the LSU game are more than enough evidence to show that he really doesn't have the heart, or mind, to ever be a big time QB.

I remember Peyton and Casey Clausen going shoulder first into defenders when we needed those last couple of feet.  Shuler and Martin were basically running backs who could throw the ball (same with Todd Helton and Jerry Colquitt.)  Schaeffer's career at UT ended because he hung in and took that hit on the sideline in the SC game (completing that 30 yard pass to keep the drive alive.)  Again, Ainge has never shown any of that.  Which is probably why the kid continues to fantasize about shooting hoops on the sideline...a much less contact endeavor.
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Here we go again.... :mf_surrender: what about last year's ND game? i seem to remember EA taking a pretty good shot in the first half while standing in the pocket til the last minute and still getting the ball off? not that it amounted to anything in the game....but to say that the guy has NEVER done any of that is false.

I hope EA comes out in 06 and has a hell of a year. there's no doubt the kid as the physical tools. He has a confidence problem right now. it's between the ears. give him a spring, summer and fall as the no. 1, and we'll see if he can cut the mustard.

you know, you seem to forget that there are 10 other guys on offense around the qb...someone has to catch the ball, someone has to block, someone has to run the ball w/out fumbling etc....i don't seem to remember too many times in 05 where the other components of the offense were too much help to any qb playing.

Just get off the kid's back. He's a 19 year old Sophomore qb at arguably one of the best football programs in the country that had a bad year, he made some mistakes, but he wasn't the only one.

I'm sure if he comes out in 06 and has a great season, you'll probably conveniently forget all this garbage you have posted and sing his praises. and if he doesn't you'll be the first one posting "told you so". i'm sure that would make you happy, to point out that your were right at the expense of this kid having another bad series/game/year.

Here's a bit of advice for ya:
EA will not be perfect, ever. He will throw int's. he will over throw receivers. he will underthrow them. that's a given. so the first time EA comes out and makes a mistake, relax. it ain't the first, and it won't be the last. As long as his mistakes don't outnumber his successes (and don't worry, i know that wasn't the case this year), then just get off his back.
 
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Here we go again.... mf_surrender.gif what about last year's ND game? i seem to remember EA taking a pretty good shot in the first half while standing in the pocket til the last minute and still getting the ball off? not that it amounted to anything in the game....but to say that the guy has NEVER done any of that is false.
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People choose to only remember certain things. People that like Ainge remember more of the good stuff and people that don't like him remember the bad. It's just human nature I guess.

People better get over it though. He is most likely going to be starting again next year. Never in my life have I seen more people turn on a kid than Vol fans and Ainge. :disappointed:
 
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Say Ainge comes out and throws for 62% of his passes, 2,800 yards, 24 Td's and 10 Int's.

Obviously those who criticize him would point out his interceptions.

All things considered would that not be a good season?

The obvious component for a successful season is an effecient running game. If Tennessee averages 4.5 a carry and 150 yards a game Ainge's success will soar.
 
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People choose to only remember certain things. People that like Ainge remember more of the good stuff and people that don't like him remember the bad. It's just human nature I guess.
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I posed an argument on the previously mentioned web board that those who are an advocate of Ainge tend to be more outgoing and or risk takers in their personal life.

Those who are an advocate of Rick Clausen are steady run of the mill people who do not like to take risks.

You can only imagine the responses.

It is all merely personal preference.
 
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Originally posted by Orangewhiteblood@Dec 15, 2005 12:46 PM
People choose to only remember certain things.  People that like Ainge remember more of the good stuff and people that don't like him remember the bad.  It's just human nature I guess. 

People better get over it though.  He is most likely going to be starting again next year.  Never in my life have I seen more people turn on a kid than Vol fans and Ainge.  :disappointed:
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exactly...i jut think that if there is going to be a voice for the bashers, then there should be some folks voicing the other side...cause not all TN fans hate EA...and they should be heard from.
 
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Winning is the main concern next season not who takes the most snaps......why can't everyone get that through their skulls??? :dunno:
 
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Originally posted by sonofajohn@Dec 15, 2005 10:48 AM
Notre Dame took the momentum and never looked back.
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Funny I thought that after we came back and tied things that the runback for a touchdown changed the momentum of the game and it was downhill from there. Just my opinion but after leading the team back to tie only to see a runback score like that, I'd be more inclined to call that the "game changing performance".
 
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Originally posted by sonofajohn@Dec 15, 2005 10:48 AM
There are many reasons, but the one that completely sealed the door on his fate, in my opinion, was sliding a good two yards shy of the first down marker in the ND game this year. 
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If I recall correctly, Rick Clausen slid short of the first down on several occasions. He also threw the ball out of bounds when he could of run for a first down.

I don't see you bashing him.
 
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Originally posted by OrangeEmpire@Dec 15, 2005 11:50 AM
Those who are an advocate of Rick Clausen are steady run of the mill people who do not like to take risks.
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That's an interesting theory, and without exploring it too far, I'd like to point out a problem with some of the Ainge bashers: they are some of the people bashing Tennessee's "predictable" offense, as well. I like Ainge, and I like Rick Clausen as well, but part of the stale offense had to do with Rick's physical abilities when he was in the game.

I'm not a Rick basher--I think he played hard, generally played smart, and did a lot with the talent he had. But his strength was not throwing 40 yard ropes down the sideline, or rifling a bullet between the corner and safety downfield. He just didn't have the arm to consistently make those throws. So the offense played conservative, down and distance football with him.

Ainge has the tools to make those throws, although I'll be the first to admit his decision making wasn't very good in a lot of situations. His talent allows whoever is calling the plays to "open it up," to take chances, to stretch defenses.

With the options available to the Vols this year, we couldn't have it both ways. Either you limit your offense to the limitations of Clausen, or you go with Ainge and hope he doesn't do something to hurt the team. Neither approach worked very well.

My hope is that with the new coaching staff Ainge can mature mentally enough to catch up to his physical skills.
 
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i blame his performance on coaching. i've got faith that cut will help him out a lot. he's aware of his potential, and he will be sure to enable ainge to perform to the best of his abilities.
 
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Ainge did it as a freshman because they limited the playbook for him and the coaches read the defenses for him and changed the play accordingly. When he started to have to make decisions on his own from an expanded play book, he became a deer in the headlights and could not make a decision...and many times panicked. The problem was not enough repetitions to build confidence and mechanical tuning. Cut will fix that. doing a play 10 times perfectly will cause you to play perfectly in a game. However, if Ainge is not the starter by the end of spring practice, all bets are off. He needs every rep he can get to get out of his funk and I don't know if the QB competition going into fall practice will be a good sign for him.
 
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I am sure that he will get his chance. Obviously, Cut thinks he is the front runner for the job given his comments about NFL abilities.
 
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Originally posted by VolunteerHillbilly@Dec 16, 2005 10:10 AM
I am sure that he will get his chance.  Obviously, Cut thinks he is the front runner for the job given his comments about NFL abilities.
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Again, CUTCLIFFE MADE NO REFERENCE TO AINGE'S NFL ABILITIES!!!
 
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