Fauci-gate

#51
#51
utvolpj said:
That govt officials should be held responsible? I personally think that should be a minimum
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Check your sentence structure in the post. "Fauci chose...and HE SHOULD...

There be the reach.
 
#53
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hog88 said:
How would Fauci be "held responsible"? I'm not a lawyer but I see no crimes he committed other than perjury and only certain people are held accountable for lying to congress.
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Social justice!??
 
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0nelilreb said:
First it’s we have to trust the science, the experts and their experience. Now we are starting down the “ he’s an advisor “ path . LOL
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He's a doctor, dealing with a poorly-understood disease.

Do doctors get things wrong? Yes. Can they be overly cautious? Yes.

You listen to their recommendations, possibly get a second opinion, and decide the extent to which you'll follow them.
 
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utvolpj said:
Did a strong leader care that someone might say something mean about him? He gave in to Fauci because he had no idea what else to do. They both screwed us
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I'm speculating, but given what I would have known back then, I'm assuming that Trump figured he could minimize Fauci more if he was within his realm once it was made clear that he was a media darling, instead of firing Fauci and having him get scooped up by CNN or ABC and have 30 minutes or an hour each day on a major network to spew his misinformation.

Trump was in a tough situation.
 
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Velo Vol said:
He's a doctor, dealing with a poorly-understood disease.

Do doctors get things wrong? Yes. Can they be overly cautious? Yes.

You listen to their recommendations, possibly get a second opinion, and decide the extent to which you'll follow them.
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He’s a worm that saw an opportunity to get fame and fortune off of fear and influence peddling. When was the last “ Dr.” you saw on a national platform throwing out the first pitch of a baseball game ?
 
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utvolpj said:
One person was responsible for putting Fauci in that position. Evidently he was too scared of mean words to make a change and provide leadership. We paid the price
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What would firing Fauci have changed though? Fauci would still have had the public attention, governors would have still been making the same requirements, etc.
 
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Velo Vol said:
He's a doctor, dealing with a poorly-understood disease.

Do doctors get things wrong? Yes. Can they be overly cautious? Yes.

You listen to their recommendations, possibly get a second opinion, and decide the extent to which you'll follow them.
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He admitted to lying about masks for nonscientific purposes.
 
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vols4sure said:
What would firing Fauci have changed though? Fauci would still have had the public attention, governors would have still been making the same requirements, etc.
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Trump couldn't have fired Fauci, he could have forbade him to speak and that is exactly what he should have done.
 
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vols4sure said:
What would firing Fauci have changed though? Fauci would still have had the public attention, governors would have still been making the same requirements, etc.
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You don't fire him you just give his message a filter through Pence. That way the response is what the WH wants
 
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Velo Vol said:
He's a doctor, dealing with a poorly-understood disease.

Do doctors get things wrong? Yes. Can they be overly cautious? Yes.

You listen to their recommendations, possibly get a second opinion, and decide the extent to which you'll follow them.
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I predicted this take on Fauci this morning.

Y'all are lucky to have my superior intellect at your disposal.
 
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Velo Vol said:
He's a doctor, dealing with a poorly-understood disease.

Do doctors get things wrong? Yes. Can they be overly cautious? Yes.

You listen to their recommendations, possibly get a second opinion, and decide the extent to which you'll follow them.
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Except he also works for the government. No second opinion allowed. Anyone bringing forward a second opinion was burned at the stake as a heretic for not accepting the non existent science. Even when those second opinions came with more data that Fauci himself used.

This was a doctor dealing with an unknown disease who prescribed methods and practices no doctor has ever done, with no research to back it up. And further this was a doctor with no first hand knowledge of the individuals making up this country, so your PCP angle falls way flat.

He was never following the science, he was tooting his own horn as an authority figure, and never once considered the actual science before stating his opinion as a national leader.
 
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LouderVol said:
Except he also works for the government. No second opinion allowed. Anyone bringing forward a second opinion was burned at the stake as a heretic for not accepting the non existent science. Even when those second opinions came with more data that Fauci himself used.

This was a doctor dealing with an unknown disease who prescribed methods and practices no doctor has ever done, with no research to back it up. And further this was a doctor with no first hand knowledge of the individuals making up this country, so your PCP angle falls way flat.

He was never following the science, he was tooting his own horn as an authority figure, and never once considered the actual science before stating his opinion as a national leader.
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He stopped being a 'doctor' years ago
 
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LouderVol said:
Except he also works for the government. No second opinion allowed. Anyone bringing forward a second opinion was burned at the stake as a heretic for not accepting the non existent science. Even when those second opinions came with more data that Fauci himself used.
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This is what I remember most of all when it came to not immediately agreeing with Fauci. I'd guess if you go back a year in the coronavirus thread you'll see some of that happening.
 
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