Federal Indictment of Donald Trump

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0nelilreb said:
It’s exactly the point , you will never see Trump in prison .. EVER . Even as progressive as you are , you know this is the truth .
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It would be interesting to see how they would handle an ex POTUS in prison. I'd assume that he'd still get SS protection, his pension, his staff and all the other benefits of being an ex-president.
 
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hog88 said:
It would be interesting to see how they would handle an ex POTUS in prison. I'd assume that he'd still get SS protection, his pension, his staff and all the other benefits of being an ex-president.
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I kinda want to see it because he could still run in 2024 😂
 
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luthervol said:
I know. All I'm looking for is a higher percentage of people coming to their senses and saying Trump is and was a horrendously despicable human who should have never been elected........and certainly should never even sniff office in the future.
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That’s not going to happen because things are done in a way that keep the populist in the headlines . I seriously doubt he would have ran again , talked about it just to screw with everyone but when it came down to it , he would have cut a deal with the GOP . That FBI raid was a huge mistake politically , it gave him more populist talking points .
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Watching or Following it? So are you uniformed? Would explain some of your Posts. The Facts are pretty cut and dry.
The requests for those documents by the NA and DOJ began last year. Again, just simple facts.
The Classification of the documents is significant but does not change the crime he committed.
It did not take 18 months to discover, it took 18 months to provide the evidence needed to cease.
Other things going on in that 18 months between legal teams and Trump.
I am not triggered at all by this. We all heard about other incidents and I guess Trump maybe the first to be charged with a crime. Furthermore, what is your explanation for why others were not prosecuted?
I am not offended by the Witch Hunt, it is a Witch Hunt but with grounds that a crime was committed.
Trump is the Victim once again. Funny that Trump and others use that term and are just as guilty of doing it themselves. It's politics and showmanship.
He is not fit for office. The Greatness of this country will sustain itself and Trump did most of the damage to it with his lies.
I guess you could call me a conservative Republican but never a Democrat and one that will never vote for that SOB again.
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The fact that I'm not spending my days studying this issue means I have other life things going on. I'm only responding to this message in between short breaks of critical processes at work.

I catch nuggets from time to time. I know the routine. One side will holler he's guilty. The other side will holler he's innocent. One thing I value is an equal application of the law at the highest level. That is where this is a total failure. This is the most corrupt administration in my lifetime. The tactics take us back to Woodrow Wilson.

Face it, you are a rino. If I remember correctly you're also on the Jan 6 thread that you gottem this time. Let me guess - you are upset Liz Cheney lost her seat?

Trump never had a chance at fairness with the deep state. It's like exposing a demon. Once exposed, no sense in them covering their monstrous face any longer. Life really does take on art. A real conservative knows government has gotten too big and it needs to be cleaned up.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Witch hunt? If there is a crime that has been committed it ain't a witch hunt.

Authoritarian - Like Trump didn't "accomplish" most of his goals with XOs?
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Trump never pointed to half of the country and called them names like this administration and the left in general. That is 1930's style Germany. Dehumanize certain factions of the population that are your political opponents then you are justified in anything you do afterwards. Your sheep will go along, but you will get some useful idiots that don't see whats happening.

He always pointed his vitriol toward the corrupt government and media. His other complaints were policy complaints like crime, illegal immigration, etc. The things that average civilians care about.
 
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BreatheUT said:
Trump never pointed to half of the country and called them names like this administration and the left in general. That is 1930's style Germany. Dehumanize certain factions of the population that are your political opponents then you are justified in anything you do afterwards. Your sheep will go along, but you will get some useful idiots that don't see whats happening.

He always pointed his vitriol toward the corrupt government and media. His other complaints were policy complaints like crime, illegal immigration, etc. The things that average civilians care about.
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No, he absolutely made it clear he didn't like the left. You're blind if you think Trump was a uniter. lmao
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
No, he absolutely made it clear he didn't like the left. You're blind if you think Trump was a uniter. lmao
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I didn't say he was a uniter but his policies were based on effort and he cleared regulations to unleash the America spirit. This adminstration is picking and chosing winners and is putting their thumbs on the scale of justice and the free market.
 
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Jxn Vol said:
It’s becoming quite obvious DT had some dirt on folks. This is the longest running Wile E Coyote episode in history.
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The midterms are probably the most important election in history and the deep state knows it. They will bring out all the stops between now and then.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Either social media has the power to influence an election or it doesn't.
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Are you one of the ones on here always saying people only seeing things in black or white? I hope not given that black or white view. It’s not that simple CV. In general, I’d say the election could be influenced but these aren’t remotely the same thing.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
Are you one of the ones on here always saying people only seeing things in black or white? I hope not given that black or white view. It’s not that simple CV. In general, I’d say the election could be influenced but these aren’t remotely the same thing.
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Yes, they are.
 
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Jxn Vol said:
It’s becoming quite obvious DT had some dirt on folks. This is the longest running Wile E Coyote episode in history.
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By "obvious" do you mean "rampant speculation?" The factual basis behind this is about the same as if I were to say, "it's becoming obvious he was trying to squirrel away documents that incriminated him."
 
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MarcoVol said:
Do you see the scary “deep state” currently? Are they in the room with you now?
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No because I'm changing clothes and for whatever reason the lights in the room always go out until I get clothes back on. This seems to happen everywhere. It just goes dark.
 
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BreatheUT said:
The fact that I'm not spending my days studying this issue means I have other life things going on. I'm only responding to this message in between short breaks of critical processes at work.

I catch nuggets from time to time. I know the routine. One side will holler he's guilty. The other side will holler he's innocent. One thing I value is an equal application of the law at the highest level. That is where this is a total failure. This is the most corrupt administration in my lifetime. The tactics take us back to Woodrow Wilson.

Face it, you are a rino. If I remember correctly you're also on the Jan 6 thread that you gottem this time. Let me guess - you are upset Liz Cheney lost her seat?

Trump never had a chance at fairness with the deep state. It's like exposing a demon. Once exposed, no sense in them covering their monstrous face any longer. Life really does take on art. A real conservative knows government has gotten too big and it needs to be cleaned up.
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Define Rino. That is not my Political Nature.
Equality in Legal applications and Politics are things of the Past. It is all Politics and you may need to adjust vs stating that's unfair.
At one point you state you are not boned up on what's going on and then you state you want equal justice for both parties. Yet you haven't taken the time to look into the current situation with Trump or you fail to see the Facts as they are plainly stated.
IYO, Most Corrupt, I laugh. Biden Staff in just incompetent. Yet you think Trump's was not Corrupt? I laugh again.
Liz not my problem, I don't care. She is doing her job does not affect me.
Trump never got a Chance, there you go again playing the victim. Trump is the Deep State...LOL...His wheeling and dealings.
Govt is too big...
Trump stated he wanted to Drain the Swamp but in Essence he filled it up.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
By "obvious" do you mean "rampant speculation?" The factual basis behind this is about the same as if I were to say, "it's becoming obvious he was trying to squirrel away documents that incriminated him."
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If that’s your opinion then roll with it. It’s not mine so we disagree.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Define Rino. That is not my Political Nature.
Equality in Legal applications and Politics are things of the Past. It is all Politics and you may need to adjust vs stating that's unfair.
At one point you state you are not boned up on what's going on and then you state you want equal justice for both parties. Yet you haven't taken the time to look into the current situation with Trump or you fail to see the Facts as they are plainly stated.
IYO, Most Corrupt, I laugh. Biden Staff in just incompetent. Yet you think Trump's was not Corrupt? I laugh again.
Liz not my problem, I don't care. She is doing her job does not affect me.
Trump never got a Chance, there you go again playing the victim. Trump is the Deep State...LOL...His wheeling and dealings.
Govt is too big...
Trump stated he wanted to Drain the Swamp but in Essence he filled it up.
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Rino as in Bush/Chaney/McCain type of Republican.

You think this country is great right now. Lol. Get real. These fools have made a mockery of this country. A worldwide embarrassment of a banana republic. Russia, China, Iran and others are using the democrats own words against this country. The Obama and Biden ambassadors go overseas and trash America every chance they get.

So you are ok with the adjusted notion of our branches of government and unelected bureaucrats playing political games in our republic? If not, get rid of them or at least cast your vote. It's a threat to every one of us.

Do I need to see all the "evidence"? In this case, no I don't need the play by play reality television version. The truth will eventually reveal itself without reveling in feces.

You seem to be waiting with bated breath for the next leak, planted evidence, Jan 6 bombshell, Ukraine phone call of withholding funds, Russia collusion hoax, etc.

Trump is not getting anything different than McCain, Romney, etc, but he won't comply. You can call him deep state if it makes you feel better. It's not what you're called, it's what you answer to. For McCain, Romney, et al, they all bowed at the knee of democrats calling people racists to gain political power. They know that alone has broken most of their political opponents. They will destroy the republic if that's what they got to do.

You think this is all incompetence from the Biden Administration? That is your first problem. Set your standards higher as a "conservative republican".

So to end, I find Trump's personality somewhat cringeworthy and I do wish he would just stfu sometimes but the issue is not Trump. He is a symptom of what we're seeing. Dig deeper and the root cause is in the answer to the question in the above paragraph.
 
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