Federal Indictment of Donald Trump

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Our Fed Gov is a Big Fat Bloated Pig..and lack any transparency with classification of just about any document that has no national security implication.
We see it with redacts of FOIA.

A paranoid gov because they dont want us to know what they are doing..not adversaries.
 
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Does a President have authorization to declassify information in his speech? Absolutely.
We could have a President declare on national TV that "the US has missiles in xyz" nation, etc.

This whole document stuff is BS.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Our Fed Gov is a Big Fat Bloated Pig..and lack any transparency with classification of just about any document that has no national security implication.
We see it with redacts of FOIA.

A paranoid gov because they dont want us to know what they are doing..not adversaries.
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I'd bet 90% or more of the material considered classified is embarrassing to the government or would show criminal activity by the government.
 
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hog88 said:
I'd bet 90% or more of the material considered classified is embarrassing to the government or would show criminal activity by the government.
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Didnt Trump have some nuke codes or something?

I swear..anybody that thinks the USG is efficient or trustworthy is as Big a Fool as one can find.

Throw in an unaccountable, corrupt and politicized bureaucracy at the highest levels and it leads to very bad things.

The USG in its current form and the USC cannot coincide. We were never to be this way.
 
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GAVol said:
I'd bet money that they ALL do.
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This. An attorney for Bill was arrested attempting to sneak documents out in his pants. We all know about Hillary, Biden, and Trump. That just leaves Bush as the lone survivor since 93, and I doubt he’s innocent. I’m sure all administrations do this.
 
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hog88 said:
I'd bet 90% or more of the material considered classified is embarrassing to the government or would show criminal activity by the government.
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There’s a reason we still don’t know about JFK. I doubt that reason is a classified document saying “our government did all the things properly”
 
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Vol8188 said:
This. An attorney for Bill was arrested attempting to sneak documents out in his pants. We all know about Hillary, Biden, and Trump. That just leaves Bush as the lone survivor since 93, and I doubt he’s innocent. I’m sure all administrations do this.
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I forgot about that beauty. I thought is was a USG official
 
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Orangeburst said:
The Milton of bowlers. That is insane.
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Vol8188 said:
This. An attorney for Bill was arrested attempting to sneak documents out in his pants. We all know about Hillary, Biden, and Trump. That just leaves Bush as the lone survivor since 93, and I doubt he’s innocent. I’m sure all administrations do this.
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That was National Security Advisor Sandy Berger. NARA personnel noticed him busying about his pants with what looked like papers but were afraid to confront a NSA. He 'took a break', exited the building, hid the papers at a nearby construction site and returned. He removed documents four times. He took the documents to his office and DOJ investigated and arrested him later. Some documents he destroyed. He received a fine, community service and 2 year probation.

According to reports from the Inspector General of the National Archives and the staff of the House of Representatives' Government Operations Committee, Mr. Berger, while acting as former President Clinton's designated representative to the commission investigating the attacks of September 11, 2001, illegally took confidential documents from the Archives on more than one occasion. He folded documents in his clothes, snuck them out of the Archives building, and stashed them under a construction trailer nearby until he could return, retrieve them, and later cut them up. After he was caught, he lied to the investigators and tried to shift blame to Archive employees.

Contrary to his initial denials and later excuses, Berger clearly intended from the outset to remove sensitive material from the Archives. He used the pretext of making and receiving private phone calls to get time alone with confidential material, although rules governing access dictated that someone from the Archives staff must be present. He took bathroom breaks every half-hour to provide further opportunity to remove and conceal documents.

Before this information was released, the Justice Department, accepting his explanation of innocent and accidental removal of the documents, allowed Berger to enter a plea to the misdemeanor charge of unauthorized removal and retention of classified material - no prison time, no loss of his bar license. The series of actions that the Archives and House investigations detail, however, are entirely at odds with protestations of innocence. Nothing about his actions was accidental. Nothing was casual. And nothing was normal.

What could have been important enough for Berger to take the risks he did? What could have been important enough for a lawyer of his distinction to risk disgrace, disbarment, and prison?

To paraphrase the questions asked of Richard Nixon by members of his own Party, what did he take and why did he take it?
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/01/sandy_berger_what_did_he_take.html
 
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