Federal Indictment of Donald Trump

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volgr said:
Except, to this point, there has been no fire. Even now, this latest ridiculousness is a nothing burger. These aren't files related to 1/6. This is using the FBI to go after Milton for stealing the red stapler (Office Space reference for those too young).
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He was required to give them back, he didn't give them back and instead taunted the DOJ and FBI.

They were taken back.

Now he's butthurt? LOL
 
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volinbham said:
false argument - the objection is not to Trump being investigated; from what I've seen the objection is the extreme action taken by the DOJ/FBI.

using your friend's Netflix account is criming - if they bust down your door and take your TVs for it I think most people would question the investigative tactics.
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You're right about your Netflix analogy. That's why I believe there is possibly (emphasis on possibly) more to it than just a few classified documents. I personally hope there is more to it. Not just because I dislike Trump but because I would really hate to see the DOJ go after a former president for something that seems so petty. But we don't really know for sure what this is all about yet.
 
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Hunerwadel said:
You're right about your Netflix analogy. That's why I believe there is possibly (emphasis on possibly) more to it than just a few classified documents. I personally hope there is more to it. Not just because I dislike Trump but because I would really hate to see the DOJ go after a former president for something that seems so petty. But we don't really know for sure what this is all about yet.
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Yep. I hope there's more or the results of this are going to be bad for everyone.
 
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Septic said:
Yes, he's a victim. Trump was just reading his bible the whole time.
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At this point, he is a victim even though he is a very unlikeable victim in many American's opinion. This is banana republic type BS that should be denounced in unison by the American public. Beat the guy on the debate stage and in the court of public opinion and if you can't do that then live with the results, not try and plot some bassackwards way to contort law to try and keep him from running on a technicality.
 
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theFallGuy said:
Good Lord you are clueless
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It's like he is ignoring the majority of this thread.

In summary:
We have seen this crap before. Do not expect this to have any more substance than anything we've seen in the past the left has tried to pin on DJT. Carry on. PS - If does turn out to to be serious, yeah, he deserves what he gets and so do all the other a**holes in Washington.
 
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volgr said:
At this point, he is a victim even though he is a very unlikeable victim in many American's opinion. This is banana republic type BS that should be denounced in unison by the American public. Beat the guy on the debate stage and in the court of public opinion and if you can't do that then live with the results, not try and plot some bassackwards way to contort law to try and keep him from running on a technicality.
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All he had to do was give the stuff back, as requested. No?

He's no victim, he's dumb. He played chicken and lost.

I'm certain his sycophants' are far more concerned about it than him. Hell, he'll use what would be galactically embarrassing for rational people as a way to get you to send him ( a billionaire) campaign donations.
 
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Septic said:
All he had to do was give the stuff back, as requested. No?

He's no victim, he's dumb. He played chicken and lost.

I'm certain his sycophants' are far more concerned about it than him. Hell, he'll use what would be galactically embarrassing for rational people as a way to get you to send him ( a billionaire) campaign donations.
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So how did he lose?
 
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volgr said:
At this point, he is a victim even though he is a very unlikeable victim in many American's opinion. This is banana republic type BS that should be denounced in unison by the American public. Beat the guy on the debate stage and in the court of public opinion and if you can't do that then live with the results, not try and plot some bassackwards way to contort law to try and keep him from running on a technicality.
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Shouldn’t judgement be reserved for facts before anyone should be “denounced in unison?” If indeed there were related criminal acts, shouldn’t Trump be denounced in unison instead? Or, are we simply not interested in that anymore? Knee-jerk reactions, assumptions, tribalism, and impatience wasn’t the driving force behind setting up our system of laws, I can assure you… and if you agree, then why do so many “patriots” subscribe to these doctrines now-a-days?
 
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Septic said:
All he had to do was give the stuff back, as requested. No?

He's no victim, he's dumb. He played chicken and lost.

I'm certain his sycophants' are far more concerned about it than him. Hell, he'll use what would be galactically embarrassing for rational people as a way to get you to send him ( a billionaire) campaign donations.
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I don't know that he lost. Yesterday was a net positive for Trump.

Also, I can't answer whether he should give the "stuff" back as requested because I don't know what the request was for and if it is ordinary to make such a request of past President's. We need more info.
 
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happy-go_vol said:
You make my point. You don't believe in God, yet we are all created to worship something. Your god is the fed gov. That's why you believe you and your party can pee on the constitution and freedoms.
You believe your fed gov is the highest authority and there is nothing to it accountable. Stalin would have loved you.
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Nope. I don't believe in god. Period. I have no god.
 
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Ttucke11 said:
I'm sure this one will be different than the other 20 investigations into Trump. Cry wolf.
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This one has the X factor of the FBI and not Pelosi still proceeding knowing good and well she has nothing. Which makes it a little more intriguing.
 
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OHvol40 said:
Shouldn’t judgement be reserved for facts before anyone should be “denounced in unison?” If indeed there were related criminal acts, shouldn’t Trump be denounced in unison instead? Or, are we simply not interested in that anymore? Knee-jerk reactions, assumptions, tribalism, and impatience wasn’t the driving force behind setting up our system of laws, I can assure you… and if you agree, then why do so many “patriots” subscribe to these doctrines now-a-days?
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What we already know from the last 6 years, we should denounce the lengths our Government and the UniParty who controls it, have gone in essentially fighting back against this man that was elected by the American people. You've made him a martyr, congrats.

What we sort of know about this current raid, these document in question aren't related to 1/6. I've read some who say they are related to SpyGate, but that seems to be rumor at the moment. I would agree we need to know more but if recent history is any indicator this is another overreach by the UniParty.
 
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‘Political Tactic’: Andrew Cuomo Demands Answers From The DOJ Over Trump Raid

Former Democratic New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo called for the Department of Justice (DOJ) to quickly justify the FBI raid on former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence to avoid the perception that it was politically motivated and tainting investigations into Jan. 6.



‘Political Tactic’: Andrew Cuomo Demands Answers From The DOJ Over Trump Raid
 
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volgr said:
At this point, he is a victim even though he is a very unlikeable victim in many American's opinion. This is banana republic type BS that should be denounced in unison by the American public. Beat the guy on the debate stage and in the court of public opinion and if you can't do that then live with the results, not try and plot some bassackwards way to contort law to try and keep him from running on a technicality.
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Exactly. Just like trump did when he lost the 2020 election...wait...nm.
 
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volgr said:
What we already know from the last 6 years, we should denounce the lengths our Government and the UniParty who controls it, have gone in essentially fighting back against this man that was elected by the American people. You've made him a martyr, congrats.

What we sort of know about this current raid, these document in question aren't related to 1/6. I've read some who say they are related to SpyGate, but that seems to be rumor at the moment. I would agree we need to know more but if recent history is any indicator this is another overreach by the UniParty.
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Technically he was elected by the electoral college. The American people elected Clinton.
 
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Septic said:
Yes, he's a victim. Trump was just reading his bible the whole time.

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lawgator1 said:
Have to count on level headed people with the big picture in mind to make these decisions. Garland is such a person. Trump, however, appoints unqualified hacks. So any by his administration would be highly suspect.
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Where have you been? Garland is a total hack. I thank God that he was never seated on the Supreme Court.
 
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