Ferguson vs. Dobbs

Dobbs or Ferguson?

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#76
#76
It's going to be Worley winning out in this weeks competition. This is just to make the Negative Nellies less negative. CBJ got to do something to win six and at this point that may be difficult.
 
#80
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knoxvol16 said:
I support Jones and this staff. Like it or not we're in third cycle of rebuilding in this program and burning a redshirt at quarterback out of desperation when the receiving core hasn't matured yet is a waste.

Desperate acts lead to poor decision making - whether that be during a game or in preparation for one. If Jones is doing this to light a fire under the current starter then okay, but otherwise I think such would be a mistake.

Fact: We're just not that good . . . yet, but it will come with a maturing roster and buy-in from both the players AND THE FANS.
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I think both can throw or do as good as Worley and probabaly better.

The one that runs better will be the one that plays because of the wr's.

I would like to see the QB and WR's learn together.
 
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#82
#82
So when Dobbs gets in there and isn't the Mike Vick this place thinks he is, then what?
 
#83
#83
bigdaddy said:
So when Dobbs gets in there and isn't the Mike Vick this place thinks he is, then what?
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SmokeySC said:
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^LMAO!!

Why did you guys keep arguing between Ferg and Dobbs??

Peterman is the next guy if not Worley. The starter was between W and P all fall and came down to a game week final decision. Peterman has been the backup since game 1 and has gotten all the backup duty. If it comes down to Dobbs or Fergy then Worley AND Peterman would have to both be either benched or hurt!


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#85
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rcrrcr said:
Ferge-
Pros-great leader, strong arm, Winner,
Cons- 179LBS- could be broken in half, no experience

Dobbs-
Pros-WOW- watch his senior year video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9KGlVgspFois
Great upside, good arm, good runner
Cons-soft spoken, Freshman, no experience
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Ferguson's dad was on TSR this morning and said Riley has put on weight since arriving ... he is around 195 now.
 
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#87
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k-town_king said:
Dobbs looked better in the one live scrimmage in the fall. Throws the best deep ball and is the most mobile. He had a 45 yard bomb and broke a big run when he faked out some defenders. He is more physically ready than RF, has about 20 pounds on him. Has the most big play potential and best arm of the qbs.

I was at the open practice, Dobbs arm strength is nowhere near that of Ferguson or Peterman for that matter. He was elusive but his arm wasn't exceptionally strong. He is close to Worley in arm talent but he has a quicker release. Maybe his feet will win him the job but to say he has the best arm is simply false.
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#88
#88
I'm yet to go back and watch Ferg's highlights, but I've watched Dobbs' again.

He seems to have a great arm.

He seems to read defenses well and know where to go with the ball.

He seems to have a good feel for pressure. Several times, the pocket collapse and he was smooth in escaping pressure while keeping his eyes down field.

When he did take off and run he didn't have blazing speed-- but he ran smart, made people miss, got what he could, and got down.

He played with confidence. He could thread his passes, could pass with touch, and got a lot on his throws.

Just some observations.
 
#89
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Orange_Crush said:
I'm yet to go back and watch Ferg's highlights, but I've watched Dobbs' again.

He seems to have a great arm.

He seems to read defenses well and know where to go with the ball.

He seems to have a good feel for pressure. Several times, the pocket collapse and he was smooth in escaping pressure while keeping his eyes down field.

When he did take off and run he didn't have blazing speed-- but he ran smart, made people miss, got what he could, and got down.

He played with confidence. He could thread his passes, could pass with touch, and got a lot on his throws.

Just some observations.
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I suggest you watch RF highlights before declaring your starter.
 
#91
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SmokeyFTW said:
I suggest you watch RF highlights before declaring your starter.
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OK... I'm not going to declare who would be better as a starter right now, because I just don't know. I will say that if either of them performed that well with UT's supporting cast, against the defenses we'll see, then I would be ecstatic. (Probably would never happen.)

Just as a cursory comparison.

JD looks to be playing against better talent, with better talent.

JD just looks more refined and polished. He looks like a tactician that is capable of big plays. He appears more in control, and more comfortable on the move.

RF looks tougher. He comes off as more of a gunslinger that makes things happen, than someone who lets things develop and delivers. (probably because he looked to be running for his life much of the time.) I don't think he has as much touch on the short/intermediate throws.

I believe either can be a tremendous QB in our system.

(Disclaimer: I am not a QB guru, and this was the result of quick review of the two videos. Your results may vary. :hi:)
 
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#92
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Orange_Crush said:
I suggest rereading my post to see if I declared my starter.

:hi:

(Edit: Will do btw...)
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Your whole post was about Dobbs and how you watched his highlights AGAIN and have yet to watch RF. So that why I sarcastically said "before you declare your starter."
 
#93
#93
In the words of CBJ, "Whoever practices best this week, will start".

That to me means, forget what has happened up to this point (Spring, summer, last three weeks of the season.) Whoever can guide this team the way he wants this week will start.

A lot of us have our personal favorites, but let's see how the process works and cheer for whoever CBJ chooses.
 
#94
#94
After watching both the video I would probably say Fergey. But I have to admit I looked up their offer lists before the video. So I was bias going in. Fergey had the more impressive offer list. IMO What he lacked in quantity of schools, he made up for in quality of schools: Bama, Clemson, Michigan, LSU, etc.

Our other guys had more offers, but not nearly as impressive.
 
#95
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SmokeyFTW said:
Your whole post was about Dobbs and how you watched his highlights AGAIN and have yet to watch RF. So that why I sarcastically said "before you declare your starter."
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I never said I hadn't watched Ferg's video. The last time I watched both their highlights was during the recruiting season. I knew I could use a refresher. That's twice you've inferred or stated that I said something that I haven't.

My whole post was about Dobbs b/c that was the QB whose highlights I was watching.

(Edit: Since I wasn't naming who should start, but was instead just commenting on one QB without comparison, the entire idea about whether I had seen both highlights is a moot point anyway...)

You really may want to switch to decaf-- for your own good.
 
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#96
#96
I say pick one Freshman to redshirt, and implement a package for the other that features his skill set with limited number of plays he executes well.

We apparently have a beast package, a wild pig, so why not a package with a kid that can throw?

Let the starter know up front this is the plan. Then you don't affect his confidence when he's on the sideline and you're not committed to the freshman as a starter if it flops.

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#97
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Ez_Vol said:
In the words of CBJ, "Whoever practices best this week, will start".

That to me means, forget what has happened up to this point (Spring, summer, last three weeks of the season.) Whoever can guide this team the way he wants this week will start.

A lot of us have our personal favorites, but let's see how the process works and cheer for whoever CBJ chooses.
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This seems logical. So, since it is volnation, lets do the exact opposite. ;)
 
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#98
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Orange_Crush said:
I never said I hadn't watched Ferg's video. The last time I watched both their highlights was during the recruiting season. I knew I could use a refresher. That's twice you've inferred or stated that I said something that I haven't.

My whole post was about Dobbs b/c that was the QB whose highlights I was watching.

(Edit: Since I wasn't naming who should start, but was instead just commenting on one QB without comparison, the entire idea about whether I had seen both highlights is a moot point anyway...)

You really may want to switch to decaf-- for your own good.
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CLEARLY you are missing my sarcasm "both times" So I do apologize if you feel I was dissing your post. That was not my intention.
 
#100
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Ez_Vol said:
In the words of CBJ, "Whoever practices best this week, will start".

That to me means, forget what has happened up to this point (Spring, summer, last three weeks of the season.) Whoever can guide this team the way he wants this week will start.

A lot of us have our personal favorites, but let's see how the process works and cheer for whoever CBJ chooses.
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I would have thought that's how it would be every week
 
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