Fiesta Bowl Game Thread: #2 Ohio St (13-0) vs #3 Clemson (13-0) (ESPN 8PM EST)

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I wish the NCAA came out with its stances the day after controversial calls like the NBA does. It’d be fun to see the reaction when they stood by what the officials said
 
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NashVol11 said:
You do have to make a football move, however, and he didn’t. Higgins tucked it away and stopped his momentum before it got knocked out. But sure, I and the replay officials all “misunderstand the rules” as opposed to the guy who keeps repeating the number of steps over and over and over
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Yeah he made a football move. He took 4 steps trying to get away from the dB contact who was pushing him backwards. He was also moving the ball away from the defenders hands who was trying successfully to strip the ball. It is all there on the replay. That is a football move.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
Yeah he made a football move. He took 4 steps trying to get away from the dB contact who was pushing him backwards. He was also moving the ball away from the defenders hands who was trying successfully to strip the ball. It is all there on the replay. That is a football move.
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“He kept going in the same direction and his arms moved up and down without tucking the ball away at all” is not a football move
 
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NashVol11 said:
“He kept going in the same direction and his arms moved up and down without tucking the ball away at all” is not a football move
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He firmly controlled the ball in his hands for four steps with no bobble until it was stripped. He was trying to get away from the defender. That is a catch and a football move. You do not have to tuck a ball in to control it. Have you completely ignored my examples in previous posts. I’m debating a child here.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
He firmly controlled the ball in his hands for four steps with no bobble until it was stripped. He was trying to get away from the defender. That is a catch and a football move. You do not have to tuck a ball in to control it. Have you completely ignored my examples in previous posts. I’m debating a child here.
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Not ignoring anything, you’re just wrong and will apparently continue to be surprised when you continue getting the calls wrong. He literally didn’t change his direction or momentum in any way, just started to move his arms downward and lost the ball. That’s not a football move. The refs reviewed it and decided that it wasn’t a football move, because it’s not one. No tuck, no turn, nothing. Keep being confused by the rules though
 
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NashVol11 said:
Not ignoring anything, you’re just wrong and will apparently continue to be surprised when you continue getting the calls wrong. He literally didn’t change his direction or momentum in any way, just started to move his arms downward and lost the ball. That’s not a football move. The refs reviewed it and decided that it wasn’t a football move, because it’s not one. No tuck, no turn, nothing. Keep being confused by the rules though
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He is trying to get away from the defender. He did not turn forward but he did twist around because he was getting pushed back. By rule that is a catch, but the referees continue to misapply the rule so I’m stating the rule is not being applied consistently. If that exact same play happened in the end zone it would have been called a touchdown. Only one analyst or expert I heard stated the play was called right. Every other analyst or expert is stating it was the incorrect call.
 
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Watching in real time it looks incomplete. In slow motion it looked like a catch. In real time he had it less than a second and a half. Therefore, I think it was incomplete. Clemson had at least 2 interceptions that they dropped. OSU had multiple chances to put the game away early, but couldn't do it. I just believe Clemson deserved to win. They made the plays to win the game.
 
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beneVOLence said:
Watching in real time it looks incomplete. In slow motion it looked like a catch. In real time he had it less than a second and a half. Therefore, I think it was incomplete. Clemson had at least 2 interceptions that they dropped. OSU had multiple chances to put the game away early, but couldn't do it. I just believe Clemson deserved to win. They made the plays to win the game.
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Length of time does not factor into it. No of steps and control does.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
Length of time does not factor into it. No of steps and control does.
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Not going to argue. It is futile to do so because the outcome is done. Doesn't mean that OSU would have won. Play calling would have changed from there to the end of the game enough that there is no way of knowing how things would have transpired. OSU probably has a better team, but they didn't make enough plays in the second half to win the game.
 
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beneVOLence said:
Not going to argue. It is futile to do so because the outcome is done. Doesn't mean that OSU would have won. Play calling would have changed from there to the end of the game enough that there is no way of knowing how things would have transpired. OSU probably has a better team, but they didn't make enough plays in the second half to win the game.
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I agree it does not guarantee an OSU win and that it changed the circumstances how the game would of been called from that point on. BTW I wanted Clemson to win so I’m not debating this because of being unhappy with the outcome.
 
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Saw this on the internet:

OSU: you can take the player out of Georgia but you can’t take the Georgia out of the player.
 
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