Final Mock Class, and Path to #1

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#76
Per Rivals... Tennessee's Team Rankings since 2002

2002 - 2nd
2003 - 18th
2004 - 11th
2005 - 4th
2006 - 23rd
2007 - 3rd
2008 - 35th
2009 - 10th
 
#77
#77
MikeHamiltonFan said:
At this point the only way TN passes UF for #1 is if a whole bunch of somewhat unlikely things happen.

27 total in the class, we need to hope that UF does not fill out their class fully (unlikely particularly because so many juniors are going to declare for the draft).

Pro-style quarterback

1. Tyler Bray
2. Matt Simms (who I wish we did not take)

Running Back
3. Can we get one of Lattimore, Dyer (from Auburn), Dillon Baxter (possible I think if we hire Todd McNair his future coach at USC as our new RB coach Rivals.com Football Recruiting - USC commits change plans), Mack Brown (from Florida) or Lache Seastrunk?

If not lets just suck it up and realize that having Oku and B Brown scared people away, but that we all know that we also have Poole and Toney Williams who if he healed from his ACL could be our second best back easily by fall. That saves us one valuable spot.

Wide Receiver

4. Markeith Ambles to have a shot at number 1, we need him to get the 5th star he deserves. He looked at least as good if not better than Prater in the practices and AA game.

5. We would be helped out a lot if we could pull Da'Rick Rogers or Justin Hunter, or Kyle Prater or Trovon Reed. If not this spot gets saved.

6. Ted Meline

7. Matt Milton

8. Kenbrell Thompkins This guy is most ready to contribute on offense if we had a game next Saturday.

Tight End

We just do not have one. We missed. If we pulled D Mosley and Dyer as a package it would not be the worst thing in the world. I am skeptical of those who say that we may use Delvin Young as a TE.

Offensive line

9. Chaz Green

10. JuWuan James whose rating should go up

11. Zach Fulton who has TONs of upside, and whose father is close with Mr. Prater up in Illinois.

Now I think we do drop M. Pair (as I said originally back in September) and end up with some combination of

12. and 13. being some combo of Torrian Wilson (who can play all OL positions), Arie Kouandjio, John Cullen, James Stone, Damien Robinson and Shon Coleman.

Defensive end

14. Corey Miller (whose rating could go up)

15. Jacques Smith who could play some LB for us if needed

16 and 17 Corey Lemonier, T.J. Stripling, and J.C. Copeland. If we got the first two, I would not be surprised to see the third look elsewhere.

Defensive Tackle

18. Brandon Willis

19. Calvin Smith

20. Kelcy Quarles or Jeffrey Whitaker

I want John Brown, but I do not think he is going to be able to make it in due to his learning disability.

Linebacker

21. Michael Taylor. He has to get a 4th star. He should get it also.

22. Christian Jones is to me a linchpin of a successful class this year. He is not a huge reach for us to get and though most think FSU, I feel like we end up with him.

23. Corey Nelson or Josh Shirley.

I predict here that Ralph Williams, another Gran guy from Miami ends up heading elsewhere (Ole Miss)

Cornerback

24. Nickell Robey

and numbers crunch leaves sweet Marques Dixon as someone who we did not even learn to misspell the name of before he had to head on...

Safety

25. Demar Dorsey another key part of this class. Angry at Florida for tripping over themselves for Matt Elam (and UF possibly getting D Riley as well.)

26. Ahmad Dixon a great pick up who can play anywhere in the secondary

FB

27. Channing Fugate a great kid who should develop well like Milton. He should help on special teams coverage early.


Kicker

28. Michael Palardy who is a difference maker I love, but when you look at all the talent left who we cannot make room for in this class, your heart breaks a bit that he cannot be at UT on an academic scholarship.

I will say that the mulligans of #3 or #5 get used to make the class 27 not 28 in total.

Blake Sims

Delvin Jones

Marcques Dixon

Marques Pair

Ralph Williams

John Brown

Any RB not in my short list above would all signal that we are in no way shape or form going to get the number 1 class this year. If the above start dropping out of this class, you may see us rocket up on NSD.

Could we still get the number 1 class? Yes. It is possible. Is it likely at this point? No. No one could have predicted that Urban Crier could so successfully lie to so many kids after quitting and that Charlie Strong leaving would have so little impact on their class. This class even if we miss on 8 of the names I have put in above and end up at #5 in the country behind Florida and Alabama in the SEC will have turned around WR, OL, DE and DL to positions of strength. Our LB haul could be exceptional or not and it depends on Christian Jones, Josh Shirley and Corey Nelson. Shirley is the least likely from that group, but the other two could join Michael Taylor and that would be an absurd group. If Lemonier joined as a DE and we just got Nelson and M Taylor and J Smith moved to LB? Another sick unit.

The coaches are doing what they need to do. When this team kicks off August of 2011 we should have more talent than everyone we play except Alabama and Florida. We will still lag behind those teams in jorts and chain wearing loser fans but we will be able to defeat them with superior coaching when we are lining up behind studs on the OL and not walk ons who cannot get 6 inches of forward movement on a FG.
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Lets not worry as much about having the #1 class as getting great players and developing them. lets get high moral plays (not NuKeese) and people that will gualify academically
 
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UTVOL02 said:
Per Rivals... Tennessee's Team Rankings since 2002

2002 - 2nd
2003 - 18th
2004 - 11th
2005 - 4th
2006 - 23rd
2007 - 3rd
2008 - 35th
2009 - 10th
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This proves a very valid point. UT had the #3 class in 2007 and from what i can remember all the studs from that class arent even at UT anymore.
 
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#79
Say that John Brown does not get in...we really are looking at very few guys we could push out to open a spot...M Pair may have tons of upside, but if C Green, and 2 more of Arie K, S Coleman, D Robinson, J Stone, J Cullen and T Wilson want to come but TN only has room for 2 more OL, you do not think that Pair ends up "changing his mind" and being a Gamecock? I do.
 
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#80
Urban Meyer cheating on his wife with a college student will not get him fired unless he hit her or he hit a football player who laughed at him about it, but it should make for an interesting few weeks for Gator nation until NSD.
 
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#82
No solid news story yet, I would guess since it just broke last evening that it will be a week before the Edward, Rielle Hunter like story in the Star and he may deny it a little longer or ask for "privacy".

Urban Meyer cheated on his wife with a 23 year old - FVSports Forums

Makes sense as to why he kept talking about the importance of family. Then the wife decided to punish him some more and he went to the AD and said, "maybe I will be back". He will announce he is leaving her after NSD?
 
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UTVOL02 said:
Per Rivals... Tennessee's Team Rankings since 2002

2002 - 2nd
2003 - 18th
2004 - 11th
2005 - 4th
2006 - 23rd
2007 - 3rd
2008 - 35th
2009 - 10th
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Two bad years killed us. 06 and 08. The implied fact here is that we need two great years to catch back up. Vols, Everyone!
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#84
BleedinOrange98 said:
Dude quit sucking off Hatvol so much and get a life. Some people enjoy MHF's posts. No one's making you read it, so if you don't have something to add, don't click on the thread. Its that simple.

Back on topic, If we get Prater who is #2 in the nation overall, that would go a long ways in getting the #1 class. The more I read about Prater, the more I like our chances with him. Maybe he can sway the 5* USC RB as well. I don't think its impossible.

I'm also pissed we took Sims (QB), I think its a waste of a scholarship and it marks the first time I've disagreed with CLK's analysis
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If you like reading MHF's garbage you obviously are not big on insight and correctness.

Carry on.
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#85
Lofton4Three said:
If you like reading MHF's garbage you obviously are not big on insight and correctness.

Carry on.
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Insightful speculation on what it takes to get to #1 (not saying we would or will). If and buts, candies and nuts...just relax and have a Merry Christmas or enjoy reading a Christmas list.
 
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FBInc said:
Insightful speculation on what it takes to get to #1 (not saying we would or will). If and buts, candies and nuts...just relax and have a Merry Christmas or enjoy reading a Christmas list.
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MHF would not understand insight if it ran over him in an Ambulance.
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#87
#87
3-5 guys from this current commit list will not be in the final class.

Florida is praying that the inside story on the 23 year old student does not come out before NSD.

TN has back up options that look better than the top targets for Fulmer his last few years at this point. Our OL will be good enough to protect Bray from the awe inspiring D Line that Florida put together, even if they keep their class.

You never want to peak too early. TN is going to peak at just the right time, and if we need to have a spot left to wait on a 5 star after NSD, we will do it.
 
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#88
If you read his original post it is saying what it will take to get the number one class.... He said that most likely a lot of that might not happen.... I'm going to quit for once making speculation and just enjoy the ride. If we can get these guys on campus then you never know...... until then we don't know who the next USC will be and it may turn out to be Meyer.... Who knows but it'll be fun to watch.
 
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