First Battle won, larger war ahead. Will we finally see justice for treason?

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ETV said:
It's beyond the realm of common sense. Why allow an aggressive communist nation, that doesn't have our interests in mind, a foothold within your own borders?
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They gonna put tanks and jet fighters on that land? What are we talking about here?

Who cares if they are communist? We're capitalists, and their $ is good here.
 
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ETV said:
It's beyond the realm of common sense. Why allow an aggressive communist nation, that doesn't have our interests in mind, a foothold deep within your own borders?
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I don't understand how the dots connect for you. If:
- a chinese entity purchased farmland and
- the entity is a Chinese government agent and
- the chinese agent is looking to be aggressive,

what do you think they would do with the land...how would they use it to advance their interests here?
 
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n_huffhines said:
They gonna put tanks and jet fighters on that land? What are we talking about here?

Who cares if they are communist? We're capitalists, and their $ is good here.
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No.

If the CCP or businesses controlled by the CCP purchase millions of acres of farmland, cultivate that land for crops for their own needs or to export, how does that benefit anyone here in the states? Do you believe they'll willingly sell the product back to us at an inflated cost or withhold it? It's their land, they can now do almost whatever they choose to do with it.
 
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ETV said:
No.

If the CCP or businesses controlled by the CCP purchase millions of acres of farmland, cultivate that land for crops for their own needs or to export, how does that benefit anyone here in the states? Do you believe they'll willingly sell the product back to us at an inflated cost or withhold it? It's their land, they can now do almost whatever they choose to do with it.
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pretty sure there are plenty of american farms, owned by Americans, set up for direct export, is that really any different?
 
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McDad said:
I don't understand how the dots connect for you. If:
- a chinese entity purchased farmland and
- the entity is a Chinese government agent and
- the chinese agent is looking to be aggressive,

what do you think they would do with the land...how would they use it to advance their interests here?
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www.justice.gov

Two Arrested for Operating Illegal Overseas Police Station of the Chinese Government

A complaint was unsealed today in federal court in Brooklyn, New York, charging two defendants in connection with opening and operating an illegal overseas police station, located in lower Manhattan, New York, for a provincial branch of the Ministry of Public Security (MPS) of the People’s...
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there is some precedence for China using residents and land over here for illegal activities.

it doesn't take tanks and planes to be a threat or an issue. I think the expressed concern in this thread is a bit misplaced, but that doesn't mean there aren't issues with a foreign nation owning American land.
 
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LouderVol said:
you have to remember they aren't really freedom fighters anymore. they just want their version of socialism. they dress up their socialism with some false claims of patriotism, but its still socialism. its why they support Trump, he claims to support the same types of socialism they do, so its not really socialism.
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I think you guys missed the entire first part of the video where it was called out that a NC Senator used his powers to get laws passed that favored Smithfield. A company getting advantages from the government is socialism and create an unfair market situation.
 
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LouderVol said:
pretty sure there are plenty of american farms, owned by Americans, set up for direct export, is that really any different?
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Yes it's different. Those citizens are legacy farmers thru generations or purchased the land recently for this use. They're earning a living and paying their taxes.
 
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ETV said:
Yes it's different. Those citizens are legacy farmers thru generations or purchased the land recently for this use. They're earning a living and paying their taxes.
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LouderVol needs to be less "louder" and more of a listener. Based on his posts, he didn't even watch the video.
 
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We'll see. I observed in my lifetime that when people went after their political enemies with lawyers and accusations of crime, none of it ever worked, no matter how guilty the person was. From Iran/Contra onward, we had a good 20 years of non-stop special investigators, didn't we? Maybe it was 30 years.

Treason traditionally is punished by death. It's serious. Normally, though, it's difficult to define without using a foreign power. You can define "the enemy" and then you could potentially kill somebody who works for them. If you say somebody wants to overthrow the current government, that could also be treason, but I haven't personally seen anything approach that in an interesting way. Let's say Spartacus can be my gauge here.

The US is really tolerant of people who *might* attack the US and I guess you kinda have to be.
 
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I wonder too what is the effect on the current dumb-conspiracy-o-sphere?

Do these people just shut up and wait on Donald Trump?

I expect not. If they want to stay relevant, and people always do, they'll have to make up something even dumber, I guess.
 
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ETV said:
No.

If the CCP or businesses controlled by the CCP purchase millions of acres of farmland, cultivate that land for crops for their own needs or to export, how does that benefit anyone here in the states? Do you believe they'll willingly sell the product back to us at an inflated cost or withhold it? It's their land, they can now do almost whatever they choose to do with it.
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How do we benefit? Well, they're going to work and develop the land, transport the crops, etc. which means employment, all kinds of taxes, etc.

Who cares if they use it to feed their own people? Do you think we're going to starve because of it? I thought you were going to complain about not trusting the crops they sell to us.

Land has value because there are buyers. Excluding a portion of the market from being buyers diminishes the market. My company has offices in the Philippines. It was so hard to figure out office space and a home for our American workers to stay in when we go there because foreigners are not allowed to own land in the Philippines. This is an obstruction to industry and commerce. This is how banana republics behave.
 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
But that's a drop in the bucket. Entire agencies literally are guilty of psyops, and sedition against his last administration. if they are not held accountabile the next 4 years will mean nothing.
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How was there sedition against his administration?
 
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Volnbeers said:
really the first order of business would be to secure the elections. i don't mind if my team loses, so long as its fair and square. and no, there should be absolutely no shred of evidence of cheating, not in the slightest.
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Well that's quite optimistic. When has that ever happened in the history of the US?
 
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ETV said:
It's beyond the realm of common sense. Why allow an aggressive communist nation, that doesn't have our interests in mind, a foothold deep within your own borders?
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Why allow the predatory business practices which created the monopoly?
 
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ETV said:
No.

If the CCP or businesses controlled by the CCP purchase millions of acres of farmland, cultivate that land for crops for their own needs or to export, how does that benefit anyone here in the states? Do you believe they'll willingly sell the product back to us at an inflated cost or withhold it? It's their land, they can now do almost whatever they choose to do with it.
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They could ship all that pork to China and leave none for Jimmy Dean to make into breakfast sausages. That would create social upheaval here on a massive scale and then they'd walk in and take over. It's elementary.
 
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EasternVol said:
No shred of evidence of cheating happens every election? I don't think so.
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i was saying cheating happens every election

if there was, say, there was an election where cheating didn't take place, there is way too big of an opportunity for cheating to take place in the current environment
 
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Volnbeers said:
i was saying cheating happens every election

if there was, say, there was an election where cheating didn't take place, there is way too big of an opportunity for cheating to take place in the current environment
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Are you saying Trump cheated ?
 
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LouderVol said:
www.justice.gov

Two Arrested for Operating Illegal Overseas Police Station of the Chinese Government

A complaint was unsealed today in federal court in Brooklyn, New York, charging two defendants in connection with opening and operating an illegal overseas police station, located in lower Manhattan, New York, for a provincial branch of the Ministry of Public Security (MPS) of the People’s...
www.justice.gov www.justice.gov

there is some precedence for China using residents and land over here for illegal activities.

it doesn't take tanks and planes to be a threat or an issue. I think the expressed concern in this thread is a bit misplaced, but that doesn't mean there aren't issues with a foreign nation owning American land.
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Excellent point. They purchase land and do something nefarious and experience the consequences.

Would it be better if they didn't do illegal things? Absolutely. Is it worth another restriction to freedom to insure that? Not to me.
 
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