'22 FL OT Brian Grant (Tennessee signee)

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vols 30 said:
Understand why some might question this one, but we won 3 Fricking games last year. Not sure what you are expecting.

Let's see how players are developed first
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He’s reportedly at 270+ with another year in high school, then add a redshirt season on a weight program, so I feel pretty confident he will have adequate mass to go along with his athleticism. Would rather have one of this type than some of the 330 lb blobs with future knee problems we see frequently.
 
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reVOLution33 said:
I'm not upset. I just find it hard to 💥 for someone, with so far, a meh offer list, like most everyone on here. But it's irritating, when I except your opinion, but you bash mine for being a realist.

I like Heupel but I'm not a "STAN." I'm not questioning the coaching staff but I'm not "carrying their water" either.

All I said is it would be nice to actually be excited about a recruit, as in beating out an Auburn, Texas A&M, Georgia, Florida ect. Someone those teams actually want. All of our recruits are ranked below .90. We can't compete in the SEC with 20th-30th in the nation in recruiting.

In closing I'm not bashing the coaching staff and I understand where the program is right now. I just feel,, celebrating a bunch of lower tier players is like excepting mediocrity with The Orange and White.
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What kind of recruits would you expect from a staff that’s only been on the job a few months, hasn’t been able to host recruits on campus, is recruiting to a program that hasn’t been competitive in more than a decade, is coming off its worst season ever, is facing major NCAA sanctions, and the staff is almost entirely from UCF so they will have UCF level contacts/relationships?

I’m actually kind of happy with the job the staff has done. I’d rather be hopeful that it’ll work out than dwell on potential negative outcomes. I see that as accepting reality, not mediocrity. Also, it’s not like landing top recruits has been a recipe for success for us.
 
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Offensive line is the hardest position to project coming out of HS. Some of these guys may outweigh the guy across from them by 100 LBs, and have horrible technique. That’s why guys that blow up at camp like K Mackenzie skyrocket up the boards. It’s somehow “proof” they can do it against similarly skilled players.

We can say we gotta get some 5* linemen to roll. For every Trey Smith, there are multiple Drew Richmonds. The jury was out on Morris when he left, and remains out on Wright. Meanwhile former walk-on Dane Davis was praised all spring.

At this point we aren’t going to grab anyone that our main rivals want. We have to find a few diamonds in the rough and give them a couple of years to bulk up and learn the position. He’s 6’8 with a limited background in football. Remember, the bulk of the players drafted were 3* and worse.
 
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ThreatLevelOrange said:
Offensive line is the hardest position to project coming out of HS. Some of these guys may outweigh the guy across from them by 100 LBs, and have horrible technique. That’s why guys that blow up at camp like K Mackenzie skyrocket up the boards. It’s somehow “proof” they can do it against similarly skilled players.

We can say we gotta get some 5* linemen to roll. For every Trey Smith, there are multiple Drew Richmonds. The jury was out on Morris when he left, and remains out on Wright. Meanwhile former walk-on Dane Davis was praised all spring.

At this point we aren’t going to grab anyone that our main rivals want. We have to find a few diamonds in the rough and give them a couple of years to bulk up and learn the position. He’s 6’8 with a limited background in football. Remember, the bulk of the players drafted were 3* and worse.
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And UCF had more guys drafted this year than we have in the past three years combined.
 
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Recruiting isn't the NFL draft. Offering and getting HS players is for building the future. This kid is still growing and best of all learning. You need guys like this ready in two to three years, not today. I don't understand why people key in on a commits weight when he hasn't played his senior year of HS. Look at what his potential could be.. Not what it is today. If the kid is intelligent and is strong.. and our OL coach knows he can develop is key. I love us landing players that can start as a freshman.. But to be successful.. That doesn't need to be the case for a oline. Just my opinion.
 
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HoleInTheRoof said:
There’s nothing wrong with questioning taking a commitment from an undersized, unranked, raw kid who has a very mediocre offer list.

I mean - if you want to be a blind homer then so be it.

I am all aboard the Heup train and I think the staff is proven developers. But they haven’t earned a ‘carpe Blanche without being questioned’ status.

I’ve liked every commitment we’ve had thus far - but this one appears questionable.
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There is something wrong with criticizing the coaching staff when you know nothing about the players or how these new coaches believe their system works best. If their recruiting classes do not work out, similar to what has happened in the last 15 years, then mouth off all you want to. Your history of bashing the team and coaches at every opportunity is well know. Tennessee fans are well aware of your attitude toward Tennessee football. At the place in time of the new coaching staff , Tennessee fans need to hold off on the negative stuff, at least until you have seen the results of efforts during the next couple of years. Your posts indicate that you have never been on board with Tennessee football.. Maybe you should change our handle to HoleInTheHead.
 
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VOLINVONORE said:
There is something wrong with criticizing the coaching staff when you know nothing about the players or how these new coaches believe their system works best. If their recruiting classes do not work out, similar to what has happened in the last 15 years, then mouth off all you want to. Your history of bashing the team and coaches at every opportunity is well know. Tennessee fans are well aware of your attitude toward Tennessee football. At the place in time of the new coaching staff , Tennessee fans need to hold off on the negative stuff, at least until you have seen the results of efforts during the next couple of years. Your posts indicate that you have never been on board with Tennessee football.. Maybe you should change our handle to HoleInTheHead.
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No one post anything but sunshine and rainbows from here on out.. you'll make Vonroe mad if you don;t... when there's only 1.5 pages to read over the coarse of the week, maybe he'll be happy
 
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Just my opinion but this staff clearly has a love for this kids ability and potential. They offered at UCF a few days before they left for TN. Then immediately turn around and offer without hesitation at TN as one of their first offers. So they clearly felt like they found a steal. With camps opening up next month do you risk slow play then him camping and blowing another staff away then you end up in a battle. I’d much rather take this path where you take him now to keep him under wraps then watch his development this year at OT and control the situation moving forward.

We need lots of OTs in the class. You get a more long term development kid in the boat that doesn’t get scared off or scare off other more immediate impact targets.
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
Just my opinion but this staff clearly has a love for this kids ability and potential. They offered at UCF a few days before they left for TN. Then immediately turn around and offer without hesitation at TN as one of their first offers. So they clearly felt like they found a steal. With camps opening up next month do you risk slow play then him camping and blowing another staff away then you end up in a battle. I’d much rather take this path where you take him now to keep him under wraps then watch his development this year at OT and control the situation moving forward.

We need lots of OTs in the class. You get a more long term development kid in the boat that doesn’t get scared off or scare off other more immediate impact targets.
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i buy all of this. i still think it's a case of taking what you can get, too. both can be true. i'm not against it either way. we need OT depth.
 
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jakez4ut said:
i buy all of this. i still think it's a case of taking what you can get, too. both can be true. i'm not against it either way. we need OT depth.
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Agree the staff needs to take any kid they like enough at this point to get a foundation built for the class so that we aren’t scrambling take anyone even those we don’t like at the end. If there is a year to find hidden diamonds early it’s this year with the pandemic stuff over the last yr.l preventing a lot of showcasing
 
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yourstruly23 said:
No one post anything but sunshine and rainbows from here on out.. you'll make Vonroe mad if you don;t... when there's only 1.5 pages to read over the coarse of the week, maybe he'll be happy
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I just think you/we should give a coach a fighting chance before you attempt to cut his legs off. Some posters on here are not happy unless they are attacking the football program. It's a new day . Why not wait until at least one season is in the books before one brings out the tigers to attack?
 
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VOLINVONORE said:
I just think you/we should give a coach a fighting chance before you attempt to cut his legs off. Some posters on here are not happy unless they are attacking the football program. It's a new day . Why not wait until at least one season is in the books before one brings out the tigers to attack?
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I think the problem is that it is the same "new day" we've been seen for years now. To call out the administration's lack of a commitment to winning is not attacking the program. It's attacking the poor choices and lack of an investment in winning. Sitting by and saying nothing while the admin continues to dig UT deeper in a hole isnt going to magically improve because we have a new guy using the shovel.
 
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Volfan76 said:
I think the problem is that it is the same "new day" we've been seen for years now. To call out the administration's lack of a commitment to winning is not attacking the program. It's attacking the poor choices and lack of an investment in winning. Sitting by and saying nothing while the admin continues to dig UT deeper in a hole isnt going to magically improve because we have a new guy using the shovel.
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Good thing its a new day. Stop dwelling in the past, makes life much better. Look to the future as ours is bright indeed.
 
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reVOLution33 said:
I'm not upset. I just find it hard to 💥 for someone, with so far, a meh offer list, like most everyone on here. But it's irritating, when I except your opinion, but you bash mine for being a realist.

I like Heupel but I'm not a "STAN." I'm not questioning the coaching staff but I'm not "carrying their water" either.

All I said is it would be nice to actually be excited about a recruit, as in beating out an Auburn, Texas A&M, Georgia, Florida ect. Someone those teams actually want. All of our recruits are ranked below .90. We can't compete in the SEC with 20th-30th in the nation in recruiting.

In closing I'm not bashing the coaching staff and I understand where the program is right now. I just feel,, celebrating a bunch of lower tier players is like excepting mediocrity with The Orange and White.
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Not sure if you noticed but there's not a ton of celebration going on for this kid committing. There's 6 pages (25 per page, I think). If we landed Trevor Lawrence he would have had 3 threads alone.
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
Just my opinion but this staff clearly has a love for this kids ability and potential. They offered at UCF a few days before they left for TN. Then immediately turn around and offer without hesitation at TN as one of their first offers. So they clearly felt like they found a steal. With camps opening up next month do you risk slow play then him camping and blowing another staff away then you end up in a battle. I’d much rather take this path where you take him now to keep him under wraps then watch his development this year at OT and control the situation moving forward.

We need lots of OTs in the class. You get a more long term development kid in the boat that doesn’t get scared off or scare off other more immediate impact targets.
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This is exactly the situation.
 
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Interesting comparison - this kid is 6-8, and up to 273 by latest accounts - committed and the fan reaction is apprehensive at best due to the fact he's a player new to the position, is 'only' rated a 3 star, and plays a position that is admittedly the hardest to be evaluated. We've offered Monroe Freeling, a kid who's 6-7, 278, and has had the opportunities to play himself into a 4 star rating. Yet I'm not seeing any angst in his thread about being offered, and I guarantee the same people that are expressing apprehension over Grant's commitment, would be elated over a Freeling commit.

Let's let the guys that are entrusted to run the football program make these decisions, huh? After all, they're the ones who's livelihood actually depend upon making more correct decisions than not. I'll ride with the coaches on coaching/roster management related issues.

Mr. Grant - Welcome to Rocky Top!
 
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reVOLution33 said:
I'm not upset. I just find it hard to 💥 for someone, with so far, a meh offer list, like most everyone on here. But it's irritating, when I except your opinion, but you bash mine for being a realist.

I like Heupel but I'm not a "STAN." I'm not questioning the coaching staff but I'm not "carrying their water" either.

All I said is it would be nice to actually be excited about a recruit, as in beating out an Auburn, Texas A&M, Georgia, Florida ect. Someone those teams actually want. All of our recruits are ranked below .90. We can't compete in the SEC with 20th-30th in the nation in recruiting.

In closing I'm not bashing the coaching staff and I understand where the program is right now. I just feel,, celebrating a bunch of lower tier players is like excepting mediocrity with The Orange and White.
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Tayven Jackson had offers from Florida, Ole Miss, Auburn, A&M, etc

Foley had an Auburn and Arkansas offer

Herring had Miss St, Kentucky, Arkansas

Even Sneed had a Kentucky offer

This is the 1st commit they’ve taken that other SEC schools weren’t pursuing
 
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