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#54
#54
WiseOlVol said:
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And you've only played Alabama 38 times in 110 years.

UT's played them 93 times (and has a better winning % vs. Alabama than does Florida).

UT has played and won more games vs. Alabama than anybody.
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Objection, relevance?

Tennessee's losing record against Bama is better than UF's losing record against Bama...congrats on all that.

I thought we were talking about OOC competition.
 
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#55
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Lawrence Wright said:
:)

I took on a couple major projects at work, and on top of that decided to go back into debt...bought a house in December.

But I'm back...just in time for UF's second round exit from the hoops tourney next week.
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Congrats!! Come tomorrow I will be in my first house for a year.
 
#59
#59
TrueOrange said:
No, we shut out OU 17-0 in the 1938-39 season's orange bowl (so 1-1)


Maybe you're thinking of 1939 when USC beat us?
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Yes sir I'm thinking about USC, my bad. Now I remember, UT should had been NC that year but got snubbed. Sorry my friend
 
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Coach Grizz said:
Yes sir I'm thinking about USC, my bad. Now I remember, UT should had been NC that year but got snubbed. Sorry my friend
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No problem.

Technically we did in 38 though...the AP wasn't near the end all/final word then that it later was
 
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TrueOrange said:
No problem.

Technically we did in 38 though...the AP wasn't near the end all/final word then that it later was
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Do you claim all the "other" NC's. I don't wanna be like our Crimson buddy's to the south and claim NC's. I only count two, '51 and '98. The '38/ '39 team got snubbed because they didn't get the NCAA concenus. Alot of fans count the other but its bammerish
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Objection, relevance?

Tennessee's losing record against Bama is better than UF's losing record against Bama...congrats on all that.

I thought we were talking about OOC competition.
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It's to your point about UF having to play FSU -- a teacher's college -- every year.
 
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Coach Grizz said:
Do you claim all the "other" NC's. I don't wanna be like our Crimson buddy's to the south and claim NC's. I only count two, '51 and '98. The '38/ '39 team got snubbed because they didn't get the NCAA concenus. Alot of fans count the other but its bammerish
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No I claim the 38 because the school does...and it actually makes sense.

The AP poll was only in its 3rd year at that point - and really wasnt carrying much more weight, power, whatever than any of the other polls at that time, much whom had been around 10,20, even 40 years at that point - and wouldn't become such a big/dominant deal until the late 1940s/1950s.

To go back to before then and assign higher or lesser value to teams (when things/situations were different at those times of selection or awarding) just based upon how the poll pecking order later turned out just seems too revisionist to me (more than anything else)


Now I have a harder time with 1940 but definitely harder with accepting 1967 and 1956 (one-poll ones)

...can understand the situation around 50 a bit better though; but the school should really claim no more than 4 at most





(I do though feel the 39 team got more snubbed...but after comparing schedules, how conferences were won, etc, i can at least say it maybe is a bit more.... somewhat understandable)
 
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WiseOlVol said:
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But because in 1967 the final polls were taken before the bowls, UT still finished #2 in the AP poll (and was #1in others).
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'67 UT was only named national champs by one selector, and it wasn't a poll. Litkenhous was a mathematical system.
 
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TrueOrange said:
No I claim the 38 because the school does...and it actually makes sense.

The AP poll was only in its 3rd year at that point - and really wasnt carrying much more weight, power, whatever than any of the other polls at that time, much whom had been around 20-40 years at that point - and wouldn't become such a big/dominant deal until the late 1940s/1950s.

To go back to before then and assign higher value to teams based upon how the poll pecking order later turned out just seems too revisionist to me (more than anything else)
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In addition to the 6 NCs UT claims, I'm claiming 1939's unbeaten, untied and unscored upon team. What idiot would not vote these guys #1?
 
#68
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WiseOlVol said:
Putting the Gators back in their place is more important than beating Alabama.
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:lolabove:

Yes, beating the 3rd best team in your division is more important than taking down the defending national champs.

You may not have noticed, but just about everyone not named Tennessee has put UF "in their place" recently.
 
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bamawriter said:
'67 UT was only named national champs by one selector, and it wasn't a poll. Litkenhous was a mathematical system.
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And this correction is coming from a guy where his team claim every NC they can get their hands on!! Hell the L.A. Times could give out a NC bubba would claim that one too!!
 
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WiseOlVol said:
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But because in 1967 the final polls were taken before the bowls, UT still finished #2 in the AP poll (and was #1in others).
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How do you go from my post about the '96 Citrus Bowl to what you posted above...you feeling okay?
 
#71
#71
WiseOlVol said:
Putting the Gators back in their place is more important than beating Alabama.
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You must be out yo damn mind!!!! I would love nothing more in this world to take down stumpy and the Crimson Turd!! I'd be willing to give up beer and sex for a whole year just to beat them as defending NC!!
 
#72
#72
Lawrence Wright said:
:lolabove:

Yes, beating the 3rd best team in your division is more important than taking down the defending national champs.

You may not have noticed, but just about everyone not named Tennessee has put UF "in their place" recently.
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1. For a very long time, Tennessee was usually the best team among the teams now in the SEC-E (by historical record, it still is). And Florida was normally 3rd, behind UGA. That was status quo until 1990. UT has not recently paid enough attention to the Gators, as the record reflects. So that's Job 1.

2. During Fulmer's tenure, UT was 10-5-1 vs. Alabama. Getting back on top of them will happen soon enough, as it always has over the 110-year rivalry. [Alabama beat UT 5 (FIVE) times from 1938-1960 -- that's 23! years.] UT might suprise Alabama (as in 2009), but they're not as vulnerable as UF right now.
 
#73
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bamawriter said:
'67 UT was only named national champs by one selector, and it wasn't a poll. Litkenhous was a mathematical system.
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You mean like the mathematical system that put Alabama in the NCG this year?

Bear Bryant always said he didn't care how many or who, just give Alabama fans 1 source that says the're National Champions and they are.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
:lolabove:

Yes, beating the 3rd best team in your division is more important than taking down the defending national champs.

You may not have noticed, but just about everyone not named Tennessee has put UF "in their place" recently.
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He is right you know....everyone else has kicked the S*** out of Florida. We might as well join the line.
 
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