Football isn’t happening...

[barney]

The death rate is not 100% even for those with pre-existing conditions. Please don't act like having the virus in your system is an automatic death sentence. You have been watching too many zombie pandemic shows/movies.

I never said the death rate is 100% all I said was that if we allow this disease to spread like wildfire through college football, eventually people in college football are going to get sick and die. It's just a statistical outcome. Covid-19 causes blood clotting in the lungs. And I read one case of a woman in her twenties who had to have a double lung transplant because the virus irreparably damaged her lungs. It's going to effect different people differently. Dying COVID-19 patient undergoes double lung transplant, believed first of its kind

 

[RDU VOL#14]

It's only a matter of time before a player or coach with pre-existing conditions gets seriously ill or dies. I can think of at least one player and a number of coaches on our team who are especially vulnerable to this disease.

Then those players and coaches should follow the guidelines and make choices that are best for them. They should have the option to make a decision. I want Trey Smith to play as much as the next guy and I want Chaney calling the plays, but if they can’t they they can’t. I’m sure they and their families are very concerned right now and I’m sure that the school has their best interest at heart as well (unless you’re UCLA apparently).

There are 15,300+ players including walk ons in D1, each year they put themselves at greater physical risk than any other student athlete. The chance of death by heat stroke, paralysis and other long term health effects are always present in this game and yet we keep playing. The chance of death and long term physical effects are very slim with COVID and I don’t think you can simply stop the game for those with underlying issues.

 

[kcvols1]

My wife and I were discussing the vaccine subject Thursday, and I compared it to the Flu. The vaccine for Flu season is a best guess of which will be the prevalent strain that year. Covid-19 has mutated the last number I heard was nearly 40 times, so if a vaccine is found, the scientists and researchers will have to develop multiple vaccines and do the best guess on it as well. I'm 67 as of this past Thursday, and I go as I need to go, don't wear a mask, don't do the hand sanitizer thing, I do wash my hands after using the facilities, and I do the social distancing. I got tested a week ago Wednesday because there was a possibility of contact with a server at J Alexander's in Chattanooga. Test was negative. It's here among us, some will get it, some won't, some will die of it, some won't, same as the Flu. I have a very positive attitude about things so I will continue to do what I need to do. People, do what you think is best for you, and let's not criticize others who do what they think is best for them.

God bless you, you fantastic hunk of America.

No, I’m not trying to Eddie Haskell you.

 

[kcvols1]

You can use stats all day long for either side of this argument. Do you know how or even if they are still testing In Korea ? We are testing anyone and everyone non stop and we haven’t even tested a quarter of the US population. We probably reached heard immunity months ago because this thing didn’t just appear in March. My opinion is We peaked by the time the gov shut this thing down, we just didn’t have the tests to know any better.
Edit- why would Korea’s case/death number matter anyways, there is no vaccine and the virus didn’t just disappear.

They test A LOT. They also have pretty stringent contract tracing, including a government funded app that tracks your phone’s proximity to the phone of individuals who test positive.

 

[barney]

Then those players and coaches should follow the guidelines and make choices that are best for them. They should have the option to make a decision. I want Trey Smith to play as much as the next guy and I want Chaney calling the plays, but if they can’t they they can’t. I’m sure they and their families are very concerned right now and I’m sure that the school has their best interest at heart as well (unless you’re UCLA apparently).

There are 15,300+ players including walk ons in D1, each year they put themselves at greater physical risk than any other student athlete. The chance of death by heat stroke, paralysis and other long term health effects are always present in this game and yet we keep playing. The chance of death and long term physical effects are very slim with COVID and I don’t think you can simply stop the game for those with underlying issues.

Are you not entertained?

 

[irish1485]

Not to make stereotypes here, but I think their culture is also WAY better at following instructions than us.

Counterpoint: Kim Jung Un.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

Are you not entertained?

Sure Maximus .

 

[OldandStillaVol]

In case anyone is interested, here is a description of the current research on the mutations of Covid. The key takeaway is so far, the virus isn’t mutating in a way that would make it more dangerous.

A Wide Look at Coronavirus Mutants

 

[Tennesseefan2019]

Sure Maximus .

 

[1vol8]

My point exactly- don't just read a headline. They're designed as clickbait. That's all. They thrive on fear and chaos. Look into the story and examine the numbers. Testing has skyrocketed & # of cases is not as relevant as it was. FL has a ton of seniors- 20 million people with only 3k deaths. ARK=170 deaths. TX= 2100 deaths out of 30 million people. OK only has 200 hospitalizations from a high of over 500 a few months ago. SC = of the 7,461 inpatient beds currently used, 660 are occupied by patients who have either tested positive or are under investigation for COVID-19. The state still has over 3,500 beds not being used.
How's Georgia doing? We were convinced they'd backslide. Clickbait my friend. They need you to be angry or scared.

Good post and spot on. I know several people in the health care industry and every single one of them has told me stories of hospitals getting serious money (30k +) for each case since it started as well. Naturally the conversations always morph into “false” cases as a result and I was told, once again by all of them, that the “label” of covid 19 was being put on anyone that could pass as a possible patient given their symptoms to obtain that money. Around that time I seen several posts on twitter from people falsely tagged with the virus. But the one that sticks out to me was a post from a young lady that just had her grandmother die from infection after a hip replacement. She took a picture and posted the official “cause of death” and it said Covid-19.

long story short, the numbers are misrepresented to begin with.

 

[savannahfan]

Dude. I'm tawkin' steroids. H Geee H!

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ about signals. That's parta the game.

Sorry I'm a little dense. However I expect you can the supplement problem all the way down to high school with little effort.

 

[chef3531]

I read the same headline and think exactly the opposite.

Good on Clemson, they're building up herd immunity faster than most.

As the article said:

It's just mid-June. By mid-July, they may be approaching 100% immunity. Almost certainly by mid-August. By the first game of the season, they'll be ready to begin an entire football season free of worry.

This isn't a story about how football in 2020 is doomed. It's a story about the best way to ensure the season goes off without a hitch.

We should all be doing a Clemson. Only protect and isolate lads like Trey Smith who are vulnerable to possible effects of the disease. Once all his teammates have had it and gotten the anti-bodies, he's free to move among them like any other team mate, because...herd immunity.

Just saw an article that immunity to covid seems to wane after only 2-3 months then the risk of getting it again goes up. That would be September....

 

[Sara Clark]

Good for Clemson (not in the literal sense) , if it were going to happen to them, it sounds like most of them won't have to risk getting it again by the time the season starts.

 

[99gator]

I am more inclined to believe that college football will be less likely to occur because the argument will be made that it is modern day slavery more so than the threat of COVID-19.

 

[SayNoToJorts]

They are testing players like every day now. With greater testing will come higher numbers of infected people (duh), which also means the rate of death will go down. Follow the death numbers not the number of infected

 

[livefaith]

Like someone said earlier. Best thing to do is get everyone sick right now, build antibodies and be ready to go in 2 weeks max. No losses during season that way. Maybe Dabo is crazy like a on this one.

 

[livefaith]

I am more inclined to believe that college football will be less like to occur because the argument will be made that it is modern day slavery more so than the threat of COVID-19.

This is dumbest sounding post. Unfortunately, you're probably dang accurate. The spineless uni admins will most likely cave instantly to protect thier gravy trains.

 

[Volsfaninva917]

The changing face of coronavirus in Florida: Younger victims, and what that means

Perspective folks

 

[TMvol10]

I work for a medical laboratory. This entire testing process has been misused and misguided. What is happening now is called “out of scope” testing. It’s where a test for something (in this case Covid 19) is performed on people that are asymptomatic for that which is being tested for. The Cepheid test has a 5% or so false positive rate. There’s really no way to know how accurate this number is either. Lots of people in my field and the research field feel it is probably higher. So, for example, Bama had 5 positives in their initial round of testing. With players, coaches, and other support staff, there are well over 100 people that were tested “out of scope”. So, the 5 positives make complete sense. And none of these players got sick. They were just said to be asymptomatic. Now extrapolate this across the county where millions and millions of “asymptomatic” patients have been tested. That means the number of positive cases are very much inflated because a million or so are false positives. There is no reason to test asymptomatic patients. But you will not hear this from the press or media. Fear and hysteria is driving the testing and it’s painting a worse picture than there really is.

 

[Chitlin&theDude]

Good post and spot on. I know several people in the health care industry and every single one of them has told me stories of hospitals getting serious money (30k +) for each case since it started as well. Naturally the conversations always morph into “false” cases as a result and I was told, once again by all of them, that the “label” of covid 19 was being put on anyone that could pass as a possible patient given their symptoms to obtain that money. Around that time I seen several posts on twitter from people falsely tagged with the virus. But the one that sticks out to me was a post from a young lady that just had her grandmother die from infection after a hip replacement. She took a picture and posted the official “cause of death” and it said Covid-19.

long story short, the numbers are misrepresented to begin with.

It was pretty troubling to see the Illinois Heath Sec. say during a press conference that terminally ill people who were given weeks to live that THEN got corona were marked as a 'corona death' (video online for any doubters)
IDPH Director explains how Covid deaths are classified

 

[Gandalf]

The question is not how many of them are catching COVID-19, the question is how many have any symptoms, how many are needing hospitalizations? So far, here are the answers

"Most of the total cases have been asymptomatic, and none have required hospitalization,"

Which means, sure, they are catching COVID-19, but frankly, it doesnt matter, and by the time fall comes, they are likely to be immune. I would worry about Chaney and CPF but a bunch of athletic young men? COVID is a nothing burger for them.

 

[1vol8]

It was pretty troubling to see the Illinois Heath Sec. say during a press conference that terminally ill people who were given weeks to live that THEN got corona were marked as a 'corona death' (video online for any doubters)
IDPH Director explains how Covid deaths are classified

Oh yeah! It’s disgusting tbh. I don’t understand why the media won’t just report the entire truth. No matter what we’re talking about, Covid, Sports or just everyday news, there’s always a slant, half truth or half lie to make for better tv.

 

[1vol8]

The question is not how many of them are catching COVID-19, the question is how many have any symptoms, how many are needing hospitalizations? So far, here are the answers

"Most of the total cases have been asymptomatic, and none have required hospitalization,"

Which means, sure, they are catching COVID-19, but frankly, it doesnt matter, and by the time fall comes, they are likely to be immune. I would worry about Chaney and CPF but a bunch of athletic young men? COVID is a nothing burger for them.

I think at first they thought it was much more serious than it’s proven to be and I understand the “better safe than sorry” approach. However now that we know what we know through experience and “leaked” information there was never a need to go to the extreme we did as long as we did. SO many people are in financial crisis now thanks to a serious overreaction.

 

[99gator]

I think at first they thought it was much more serious than it’s proven to be and I understand the “better safe than sorry” approach. However now that we know what we know through experience and “leaked” information there was never a need to go to the extreme we did as long as we did. SO many people are in financial crisis now thanks to a serious overreaction.

The overreaction is not over.

Wait until schools reopen and you are given details as to what your 7 year old is going to have to deal with in order to go back to school.

Or we do play sports again and the first player is tested positive.

I have sort of become like George Carlin at this point. I just sit back and try to pretend I am not a participant in any of this, watch it all from afar and laugh at what we've become. I'm getting numb to it at this point.

 

[livefaith]

I work for a medical laboratory. This entire testing process has been misused and misguided. What is happening now is called “out of scope” testing. It’s where a test for something (in this case Covid 19) is performed on people that are asymptomatic for that which is being tested for. The Cepheid test has a 5% or so false positive rate. There’s really no way to know how accurate this number is either. Lots of people in my field and the research field feel it is probably higher. So, for example, Bama had 5 positives in their initial round of testing. With players, coaches, and other support staff, there are well over 100 people that were tested “out of scope”. So, the 5 positives make complete sense. And none of these players got sick. They were just said to be asymptomatic. Now extrapolate this across the county where millions and millions of “asymptomatic” patients have been tested. That means the number of positive cases are very much inflated because a million or so are false positives. There is no reason to test asymptomatic patients. But you will not hear this from the press or media. Fear and hysteria is driving the testing and it’s painting a worse picture than there really is.

Your no journalist. Why would we trust your word? All you are is an experienced and knowledgeable expert in the field. And who needs that when we have journalists driven by thier editors?

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