For the RPI guys on the board, what does this do for us!?

#76
#76
DO we want a number 2 seed in the tourney? I was thinking if we fought with UK early in the tournament, we would have a better shot at beating them.
 
#77
#77
EvanStalcup1990 said:
DO we want a number 2 seed in the tourney? I was thinking if we fought with UK early in the tournament, we would have a better shot at beating them.
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Ky isn't that deep. They usually only go about 7 deep. It'll be a test for them to win 3 games in 3 days. I honestly think it'll be Candy and Ky in the finals. If Candy can't win the SEC tourney this year, they might not ever win it.
 
#78
#78
IMO, we still need a lot of stuff to happen for us to make it.

- Beat Vandy and win at least 2 SEC games
- Hope the Murray State's dominate the mid major tournaments
- Hope the Georgia's of the world don't catch fire in conference tournaments.
 
#79
#79
EvanStalcup1990 said:
DO we want a number 2 seed in the tourney? I was thinking if we fought with UK early in the tournament, we would have a better shot at beating them.
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Yes. We for sure want a 2 or 3 seed in the tournament. In fact, out of the seeds we can get, I pray it's not the 4 for that reason. You hold off playing a team that just went undefeated in conference play who is the number 1 team in the country. Like the other poster, we stand a better chance playing UK late in the tournament because of the lack of depth.
 
#81
#81
Shaun1985 said:
Yes. We for sure want a 2 or 3 seed in the tournament. In fact, out of the seeds we can get, I pray it's not the 4 for that reason. You hold off playing a team that just went undefeated in conference play who is the number 1 team in the country. Like the other poster, we stand a better chance playing UK late in the tournament because of the lack of depth.
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I don't think UT can finish with the 4 seed. 2,3 or 5 I believe. 5 is not much better than the 4 but at least you get to try to win 2 games before seeing UK.
 
#82
#82
I know the question was posed in another thread. Andy Staples seems to think is all that matters for Tennessee is number of wins. If that were the case, we'd be better off getting a 5 seed and beating South Carolina. But it certainly wouldn't help our RPI, which is why I think that bogus.
 
#83
#83
zansdad said:
I don't think UT can finish with the 4 seed. 2,3 or 5 I believe. 5 is not much better than the 4 but at least you get to try to win 2 games before seeing UK.
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You're right. A 4 seed is not possible for us
 
#84
#84
The bottom line is we still need to win on Saturday and at least get to the finals of the SEC tournament to just be in the conversation about getting in the NCAA tournament. If we lose Saturday then it's win the SEC Tournament or NIT here we come.
 
#85
#85
My apologies....I keep forgetting about Bama and how they magically didn't fall off the face of the earth when they lost Green. I was really counting on them to tank with State.
 
#86
#86
golfballs03 said:
I know the question was posed in another thread. Andy Staples seems to think is all that matters for Tennessee is number of wins. If that were the case, we'd be better off getting a 5 seed and beating South Carolina. But it certainly wouldn't help our RPI, which is why I think that bogus.
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Beating SoCar would indeed help UT's RPI. Tourney games are neutral sites. However the bump would only be in the 5-6 spots range. If UT wins two games their RPI will be high enough for bubble consideration no matter who they play But Beating a decent 6 or 7 seed and then beating Vandy again would look much better than beating a woeful SoCar and then Bama.
 
#87
#87
zansdad said:
Beating SoCar would indeed help UT's RPI. Tourney games are neutral sites. However the bump would only be in the 5-6 spots range. If UT wins two games their RPI will be high enough for bubble consideration no matter who they play But Beating a decent 6 or 7 seed and then beating Vandy again would look much better than beating a woeful SoCar and then Bama.
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We're competing with Ole Miss(59) and Miss State(61) to be the 5th team taken by the NCAA.
Beat Vandy Saturday and we'll have 17 wins against D1 opponents, RPI in the 60s and we'll be 9-1 in our last 10, SOS 34.
We'll be 4-7 against RPI 1-50 teams.
Ole Miss is 0-7 against RPI 1-50s, SOS 44.
Miss St currently is 4-6 in their last 10 and their SOS 67, 2-4 against RPI 1-50s.
We're 61 on Ken Pom.
BPI 68.
Beat Vandy Saturday and we're on the bubble.
A loss by Miss State playing at Arky Saturday would guarantee it.

Thoughts.
 
#88
#88
calban said:
We're competing with Ole Miss(59) and Miss State(61) to be the 5th team taken by the NCAA.
Beat Vandy Saturday and we'll have 17 wins against D1 opponents, RPI in the 60s and we'll be 9-1 in our last 10, SOS 34.
We'll be 4-7 against RPI 1-50 teams.
Ole Miss is 0-7 against RPI 1-50s, SOS 44.
Miss St currently is 4-6 in their last 10 and their SOS 67, 2-4 against RPI 1-50s.
We're 61 on Ken Pom.
BPI 68.
Beat Vandy Saturday and we're on the bubble.
A loss by Miss State playing at Arky Saturday would guarantee it.

Thoughts.
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Everything will be very curious as to if the committee gives any weight whatsoever to pre/post Stokes. I don't see Ole Miss as a bubble team. The 0-7 you point out is huge. They also insist that last 10 games are not a factor.. that it is the entire body of work. With a win Saturday and 2 SEC Tournament wins, I think the Vols have a legitimate case.
 
#89
#89
Shaun1985 said:
IMO, we still need a lot of stuff to happen for us to make it.

- Beat Vandy and win at least 2 SEC games
- Hope the Murray State's dominate the mid major tournaments
- Hope the Georgia's of the world don't catch fire in conference tournaments.
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Yes, we want a lot (if not all) of the #1 seeds to win their tournaments
 
#90
#90
calban said:
We're competing with Ole Miss(59) and Miss State(61) to be the 5th team taken by the NCAA.
Beat Vandy Saturday and we'll have 17 wins against D1 opponents, RPI in the 60s and we'll be 9-1 in our last 10, SOS 34.
We'll be 4-7 against RPI 1-50 teams.
Ole Miss is 0-7 against RPI 1-50s, SOS 44.
Miss St currently is 4-6 in their last 10 and their SOS 67, 2-4 against RPI 1-50s.
We're 61 on Ken Pom.
BPI 68.
Beat Vandy Saturday and we're on the bubble.
A loss by Miss State playing at Arky Saturday would guarantee it.

Thoughts.
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I can't believe Miss ST would still be considered a bubble team even if they beat Arky.
 
#91
#91
calban said:
We're competing with Ole Miss(59) and Miss State(61) to be the 5th team taken by the NCAA.
Beat Vandy Saturday and we'll have 17 wins against D1 opponents, RPI in the 60s and we'll be 9-1 in our last 10, SOS 34.
We'll be 4-7 against RPI 1-50 teams.
Ole Miss is 0-7 against RPI 1-50s, SOS 44.
Miss St currently is 4-6 in their last 10 and their SOS 67, 2-4 against RPI 1-50s.
We're 61 on Ken Pom.
BPI 68.
Beat Vandy Saturday and we're on the bubble.
A loss by Miss State playing at Arky Saturday would guarantee it.

Thoughts.
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Well my first thought is that the commitee won't be comparing UT vs Ole Miss and Miss St as the 5th SEC team. They will be comparing UT against the rest of the bubble to be one of the 37 at large teams. IF all three teams come up short, the committee will take 4 teams from the SEC and that will be that.

Secondly, while I love KenPom the committee doesn't even look at it. So it doesn't really matter if we are #1 or #101 there. Same goes for BPI.

I think it would benefit UT if all the SEC bubble teams finished strong. Thus raising the preception of the whole league. I would much rather UT beat a percieved good team seeded #6 or 7 in the SECt than to beat a percieved sliding team. Both of those teams you mentioned getting their RPI's into the 50's would help UT's resume. Then it's all in the hands of the committee.
:twocents:
 
#92
#92
zansdad said:
Well my first thought is that the commitee won't be comparing UT vs Ole Miss and Miss St as the 5th SEC team. They will be comparing UT against the rest of the bubble to be one of the 37 at large teams. IF all three teams come up short, the committee will take 4 teams from the SEC and that will be that.

Secondly, while I love KenPom the committee doesn't even look at it. So it doesn't really matter if we are #1 or #101 there. Same goes for BPI.

I think it would benefit UT if all the SEC bubble teams finished strong. Thus raising the preception of the whole league. I would much rather UT beat a percieved good team seeded #6 or 7 in the SECt than to beat a percieved sliding team. Both of those teams you mentioned getting their RPI's into the 50's would help UT's resume. Then it's all in the hands of the committee.
:twocents:
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The only issue I see with that is this..if ole miss and miss st close out with wins and one win in sec t, our resumes will be very similar, as well at rpi(theirs would be higher).

The committee ain't taking 7 sec teams.

IMO were much better off having the 5th best resume in the sec, not the 7th.
 
#93
#93
bleedingTNorange said:
The only issue I see with that is this..if ole miss and miss st close out with wins and one win in sec t, our resumes will be very similar, as well at rpi(theirs would be higher).

The committee ain't taking 7 sec teams.

IMO were much better off having the 5th best resume in the sec, not the 7th.
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And they proved last year that head-to-head doesn't matter with them taking Georgia over Alabama. So, I want Ole Miss and MSU to fall off.
 
#94
#94
zansdad said:
Beating SoCar would indeed help UT's RPI. Tourney games are neutral sites. However the bump would only be in the 5-6 spots range. If UT wins two games their RPI will be high enough for bubble consideration no matter who they play But Beating a decent 6 or 7 seed and then beating Vandy again would look much better than beating a woeful SoCar and then Bama.
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You sure about that?

We'd get a neutral win, but it would ding our SOS
 
#98
#98
UGA was a long time ago. I think Bama hurts us more because we were looking strong and starting to make a contention for the NCAA tourney. Then end up losing another away game to a team that had lots of recent distractions. I think not losing a game in February would of looked really good for the team, especially if we can beat Vandy Saturday.
 
#100
#100
This may have already been said, but the only chances UT has in making the tournament are, IMO:

1) Win the SEC tournament
2) Win their next 3 games and play decent against UK in the finals
3) If they do #2, hope like hell there are no upsets in the conference tournaments which would take an at-large spot away...such as South Carolina winning the SEC
 
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