For the ***** whiners….

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#128
My point in all of it is you may have 1 maybe 2 in a five year span that could be drafted out of High School. And thats based off memory alone... I didnt gather facts for you fact checkers. All others require real development. So I take five star with a grain of salt. Most do not even see the field until midway freshman season. Obviously depth plays a part in that also.
 
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BigALWiLson said:
My point in all of it is you may have 1 maybe 2 in a five year span that could be drafted out of High School. And thats based off memory alone... I didnt gather facts for you fact checkers. All others require real development. So I take five star with a grain of salt. Most do not even see the field until midway freshman season. Obviously depth plays a part in that also.
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Lol. You threw out a test. You should’ve known us neurotic bunch of douche bags would be all over it. 😂
 
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Hawaiian Hammer said:
Coach Ek is a legendary recruiter. His story of getting Will Compton to Nebraska is all time. I hope we keep him around for a long time because he’s the guy players would run through a wall for.
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Also our Special Teams are top notch now. I think it’s Phil Steele or Athlon (one of them) that has our ST rated #10 overall in the Nation this year
 
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BigALWiLson said:
Henry is possible and Gurley out of that list. In fact I would say Henry is the only one that was close to Bo and Hershel really... Maybe Jamal from a physically ready standpoint.
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Henry wasn't ready mentally for the NFL his first actual NFL season. To me, maybe Hershel Walker or Adrian Peterson, but I think you'd have to go all the way back to Jim Brown.
 
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bigl3327 said:
Henry wasn't ready mentally for the NFL his first actual NFL season. To me, maybe Hershel Walker or Adrian Peterson, but I think you'd have to go all the way back to Jim Brown.
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Jim Brown is on the list for me was just saying the most recent in my life time. The mental part could be said for a lot of guys. Bo was great and probably would have shattered most NFL records if stayed healthy. Even so he likely wasnt ready mentally as an 18 year old kid either.
 
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BigALWiLson said:
Jim Brown is on the list for me was just saying the most recent in my life time. The mental part could be said for a lot of guys. Bo was great and probably would have shattered most NFL records if stayed healthy. Even so he likely wasnt ready mentally as an 18 year old kid either.
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Maurice Clarett
 
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BigALWiLson said:
McFadden was a beast but not as a freshman in the NFL
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Are we talking being a "beast" in your rookie year or just "being ready" as some type of a contributor?

Being a beast would be nobody. Even LBJ, in a much more easy-to-jump sport "only" scored 20 ppg as a rookie and he was the most ready HS prospect specimen of all time. Even he wasn't a "beast".

I just figured we were talking who could add even a bit of value as a rookie. I mean KC just got drafted after 1 year and he may be a valuable backup.
 
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Devo182 said:
Are we talking being a "beast" in your rookie year or just "being ready" as some type of a contributor?

Being a beast would be nobody. Even LBJ, in a much more easy-to-jump sport "only" scored 20 ppg as a rookie and he was the most ready HS prospect specimen of all time. Even he wasn't a "beast".

I just figured we were talking who could add even a bit of value as a rookie. I mean KC just got drafted after 1 year and he may be a valuable backup.
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No i mean physically, mentally gifted enough to play and handle what the nfl brings every week. And I agree there are very very few that are ready to do that. Bo Jackson, Hershel and AP with maybe Megatron and EB is all I can really say In my lifetime that could have done it. Maybe Sean Taylor as well.
 
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Defcon5 said:
Did we land Mauigoa. Seldon ain’t coming. Using us to get a better offer.
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Sorry, but stars DO matter....especially in the SEC. You have to a high star rating average to compete for championships in the SEC. From my observations over the years it breaks down like this:

Teams that average 3.7 stars or more per player every year in recruiting will be in the conversation for the playoffs every year on average.

Teams that average 3.5 to 3.7 stars per player every year in recruiting will have a team every 3 years or so that can be in the conversation for making it to Atlanta or the playoffs.

Teams that average 3.2 to 3.4 stars per player every year in recruiting will seldom have a team that is good enough to make it to Atlanta or the playoffs.

Teams that average less than 3.2 stars per player every year in recruiting will never, ever, have a chance to make it to Atlanta or the playoffs in this league.

Prove me wrong.
 
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BigALWiLson said:
Jamal Lewis was close imo but he had trouble with blocking assignments early
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Yep it’s amazing he didn’t start against Florida but the next game out against ole miss he starts against ole miss and runs for 274 yards. I remember well, loved Fulmer but he should have broke him in a week earlier. I don’t believe that 1 week made that much difference. Wish we had started Lewis in that one. GBO!
 
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norrislakevol said:
Sorry, but stars DO matter....especially in the SEC. You have to a high star rating average to compete for championships in the SEC. From my observations over the years it breaks down like this:

Teams that average 3.7 stars or more per player every year in recruiting will be in the conversation for the playoffs every year on average.

Teams that average 3.5 to 3.7 stars per player every year in recruiting will have a team every 3 years or so that can be in the conversation for making it to Atlanta or the playoffs.

Teams that average 3.2 to 3.4 stars per player every year in recruiting will seldom have a team that is good enough to make it to Atlanta or the playoffs.

Teams that average less than 3.2 stars per player every year in recruiting will never, ever, have a chance to make it to Atlanta or the playoffs in this league.

Prove me wrong.
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There's also a simple, quick and dirty method - the Bluechip Ratio. Which says if your last 4 recruiting classes aren't 50% + 4/5*s...well good luck winning it all. Hasn't happened since recruiting has been tracked.

Now yes OFC you could win some here and there and build positive momentum like Clemson did. I think that's what we'd be lucky to leverage. Otoh you have programs like Michigan, Ole Miss, and UK coming off 10+ wins seasons and can't recruit anybody.

Ofc I think winning big on the field is the ONLY thing that's been holding us back from taking the next step forward and leapfrogging others. Go win 9-10 this year, keep pouring into NiL...great things ahead!
 
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Devo182 said:
There's also a simple, quick and dirty method - the Bluechip Ratio. Which says if your last 4 recruiting classes aren't 50% + 4/5*s...well good luck winning it all. Hasn't happened since recruiting has been tracked.

Now yes OFC you could win some here and there and build positive momentum like Clemson did. I think that's what we'd be lucky to leverage. Otoh you have programs like Michigan, Ole Miss, and UK coming off 10+ wins seasons and can't recruit anybody.

Ofc I think winning big on the field is the ONLY thing that's been holding us back from taking the next step forward and leapfrogging others. Go win 9-10 this year, keep pouring into NiL...great things ahead!
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Why do you think that is? I have an idea but would like to hear yours first.
 
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5 star Recruiting and the highest 4 star no doubt is what helps win championship. There is around a pool of 60+ kids that our heads and shoulder better than everyone else in their position Group so few amongst many teams trying to get. The trick is the group of 300+ kids that are pretty much equal so even services struggle to put one kid ahead of another. So trusting your coaches on evaluation and learning the kids that have true heart to excel in the toughest sport which trust me many don't have and then coaching them up to excel. Even then there are kids that have no stars that excel because no one knew about them This is why so many 3 star and below make up the NFL draft. In CHRIST Alone
 
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