Four Former UT Football Staffers Receive NCAA Penalties for Recruiting Violations

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Just a thought, but could the big delay be the NCAA's way of letting time ease the calls for blood. I'm sure Bama, Ga, FL and heck most of SEC want Tennessee to suffer and I don't think we will.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
Fulmer was an employee of

Agree Fulmer is done personally, I'm just worried as to the effect of any previously unknown shenanigans Fulmer was aware of complicating the University's outcome.
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I'm only worried about the crap Fulmer might have been involved in that Pruitt and the others might know the admins knew or found out about before they paid him.

I can see the NCAA not appreciating that UT tossed Pruitt, lots of staff, and an entire recruiting office under the bus........ while letting Fulmer ride off with millions. Again, IF he was involved and IF the admins knew it before they paid him.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Honestly Pruitt’s main issue was he came straight from Bama. He was careless and dumb with how he went about things and he was that way bc there are numerous obstacles to any cheating ever being reported at Bama. Does anyone believe he just suddenly learned to cheat at Tennessee? Or that he didn’t cheat at Bama, Georgia, Florida State in his previous stops? He cheated and was arrogant enough to think it would be swept under the rug like it had been every other place he had been.
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Your first sentence was all that needed to be said.
 
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Giving these former members of our staff a show cause is like giving me a show-cause from being a brain surgeon . . . I have no idea how to do surgery and those fools clearly have no idea how to coach, so the bans are a bit pointless (HA!)

But seriously, hiring a piece of Bama garbage to be our HC (and then suffering through the results) is what has virtually killed any positive sentiment I had left for Fulmer. That was possibly the worst decision ever made by our University.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
That Bama background bothered me from Day 1. People were like "nah, y'all are just being silly calling CJP a Bammer". Well, we sure caught it in the butt on that one.
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What did anybody think when we hired a bammer? It was b******* from the start.
 
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What power does the NCAA really have, tell them to piss off, why does anybody have to listen to the NCAA, they should be closed down. Surprise NCAA, everyone is paying players and has been for the last 50 years. They only pick and chosse who they want to hold accountable. They say lose scholarships and bowl ban and UT replies "Nope" so what do they do????
 
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vollygirl said:
There should not be any repercussions on the current staff and players. All of the infection was cut away and disposed of, and and the people here now deserve to enjoy the results of their work.

For the NCAA to do anything different than that is unacceptable.
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Agree wholeheartedlly. I’ve posted before that I am from the generation of Johnny Majors (God rest his troubled soul). I obviously lay all this nonsense ultimately on Phil who hired the gump Jeremy and whose lack of oversight and leadership (perhaps personal hubris) that took us to the proverbial brink of perpetual irrelevance.

Super thankful that someone with a brain and forward-looking vision (looking at you Danny White) delivered our proud Vols from the absolute failure of leadership from Fulmer.

Hate to say it, but it is the truth when all things are considered.

Go VOLS!
 
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Rocky Top T said:
He should!
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Exactly! Fulmer would have to be a complete idiot not to know what was going on under his watch. He should be mentioned. He was the boss and the buck stops with him. Pruitt and PF should be mentioned together because ultimately he hired a guy that couldn’t put two sentences together. I don’t feel sorry for either one of them. They both made millions of dollars off of UT and both tried to pull the wool over all of us. Good riddance to both of them.
 
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tdd said:
Exactly! Fulmer would have to be a complete idiot not to know what was going on under his watch. He should be mentioned. He was the boss and the buck stops with him. Pruitt and PF should be mentioned together because ultimately he hired a guy that couldn’t put two sentences together. I don’t feel sorry for either one of them. They both made millions of dollars off of UT and both tried to pull the wool over all of us. Good riddance to both of them.
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I agree my Vol friend!!! Can't stand Fulmer!
 
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Gandalf said:
All over $60k in impermissible benefits over 3 YEARS!? Thats nutz. History will look back on this and wonder WTF they were talking about with the huge sums of cash in college sports now.

Looks like the underlings took the deal. Pruitt can't because they want a lifetime or 10 year ban and UTADMIN is telling NCAA to go F themselves, since they already did a lot of the self policing.
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Makes it even more absurd that the administration pulled this stunt. All to save from paying a buyout? Ridiculous. Should have just paid the man and told him to go on
 
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All this and these coaches still couldn't put together a decent football team. What a bunch of sorry ass losers.

I am so glad we got CJH now. He is not only brilliant, but it seems like he is also ethical.

Whatever the NCAA rules won't matter, because in the long term we have our coach and he will lead the Vols to the promised land in the end.

GBO!
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
That Bama background bothered me from Day 1. People were like "nah, y'all are just being silly calling CJP a Bammer". Well, we sure caught it in the butt on that one.
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I was admittedly ambivalent about the Pruitt hire and hoped for the best.

To be honest, the three primaries mentioned at the time were all losers. Mel Tucker turned in one good year and got a retirement paycheck and Mich St moved back to the pack. Who was the third? Can't even remember lol.

Face it, December of 2017 was not the time to be making a hire. Currie screwed us with the Shiano thing when our list of candidates was much better. There were flies on anyone Fulmer could have hired at that point. Not being a Fulmer apologist by any means-honestly never really liked the man very much.

I guess I'm just looking at things from the perspective that Pruitt was in over his head. Like Botch. Like Dooley. Even like Kiffin-at the time anyway as shown by his flameout at USC.

In the end, all of it was necessary to be where we are now. Moaning about how an 8-4 season would be a letdown.
 
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VOLfrombama said:
This article summarizes why I don't think there's going to be a postseason ban.

Why Tennessee, Arizona State could largely escape penalties amid ongoing deregulation of NCAA
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Agree, especially considering these statements from the article.

"You see, in rewriting and condensing the NCAA Constitution earlier this year, the association went out of its way to state, "penalties imposed … do not punish programs or student-athletes not involved nor implicated in the infractions."

That's a mouthful and a riddle that has proved to be unsolvable all these decades. It isn't fair that athletes at Tennessee and Arizona State would have to suffer. Pruitt and his coaches -- those accused of wrongdoing -- are long gone. Arizona State has dispatched assistants in a similar manner while awaiting its Notice of Allegations.

If the deregulation philosophy holds and that rewritten constitution stays firm, neither program may suffer meaningful penalties. In other words: no postseason bans. We have become so conditioned to the enforcement end game, that's all that matters."
 
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It may be that they do not want to close the case against the school until each case against the individual coaches is closed. Pruitt and Ansley are contesting the NCAA’s decision so I assume they will present a different narrative where they are less in charge of the cheating and more just pawns. They’ll have to have some evidence to incriminate Fulmer and/or other school officials before I think it will change what the NCAA‘ position. But because of that possibility, I don’t think the NCAA will close the case against the school until it closes the cases against Pruitt and Ansley. Just my opinion of course.
 
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