Fox being sued for allegedly broadcasting ‘lies’ about Dominion

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A settlement?

Right before the Fox ownership and their bread and butter hosts were about to be ABSOLUTELY SKEWERED, in open court with nowhere to hide, and exposed as the the frauds they all are?

No way.
 
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Boy, I would really like to come to Fox's defense, but they were silent when Alex Jones free speech rights were trampled. Ohh well.
 
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volgr said:
Boy, I would really like to come to Fox's defense, but they were silent when Alex Jones free speech rights were trampled. Ohh well.
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Fox hasn’t been good in a while. Tucker is good and Waters other than that they are meh. I put on from time to time but not nearly like I used to. Of course they are still 10000000% times better than the state run DNC media
 
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volgr said:
Boy, I would really like to come to Fox's defense, but they were silent when Alex Jones free speech rights were trampled. Ohh well.
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The defense for libel it that what you're saying is the truth. This has been upheld as precedent since the 1700s. I'm pretty sure the Sandy Hook kids actually died. Now, to be fair, I wasn't there, but there seems to be a large amount of evidence. Also, Alex Jones said they were killed...but he lies so much I'm not sure you can put much weight in that.
 
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volgr said:
Boy, I would really like to come to Fox's defense, but they were silent when Alex Jones free speech rights were trampled. Ohh well.
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Whatever weak legal defense could be offered is not what this is about. This is about Trump et al targeting a company that did nothing wrong, making all sorts of insane claims... and Fox towing that line despite knowing it was bullshot.

And it's not like it was a one off or a passing thought that some particular claim was off. IT WAS THE WHOLE THING. And they just touted it for months on end.

To get paid by the gullible audience that believed it because they WANTED to believe it.
 
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And LOL at Fox's statement about the settlement that they are acknowledging the findings against them according to highest journalistic integrity!

Dear Lord, they just paid out almost $800 million and were exposed as, not just liars, but as people KNOWING they were lying and concerned just with how it made them look and their stock price.

That they have the nerve to say they acted with journalistic integrity by admitting what is plainly obvious is just disgustingly dishonest.
 
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OrangeBoro said:
Fox hasn’t been good in a while. Tucker is good and Waters other than that they are meh. I put on from time to time but not nearly like I used to. Of course they are still 10000000% times better than the state run DNC media
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I still watch Hannity every night. I keep hoping that vein in his neck pops while I'm watching.
 
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Interesting discussion now with an expert on the finances of this and she says Fox shareholders may well now sue Fox for having created this fiasco, costing the shareholders.

I can certainly understand the logic of that. The evidence is now there that the company laid open the possibility for this with their actions.
 
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AM64 said:
Very disappointing. I was hoping Dominion would have to substantiate their assertion that their machines are secure to counter the Fox allegations.
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Truth is an absolute defense to these cases. Apparently fox was so lacking in confidence in their claims, that they'd rather pay three quarters of a billion dollars than try to assert their reporting was factual.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
Truth is an absolute defense to these cases, so apparently fox was so lacking in confidence in their claims that they'd rather pay three quarters of a billion dollars than try to assert their reporting was factual.
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Exactly right. If Fox had doubled down on perpetuating the lie -- and despite their admitting privately that it was a lie-- they risked a judgment directed against them on liability and the jury would have crushed them on punitive damages.

As a company, the settlement was the only option. As a supposed "news organization," the entire sequence of events eviscerates in every sense their claim to that title.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Exactly right. If Fox had doubled down on perpetuating the lie -- and despite their admitting privately that it was a lie-- they risked a judgment directed against them on liability and the jury would have crushed them on punitive damages.

As a company, the settlement was the only option. As a supposed "news organization," the entire sequence of events eviscerates in every sense their claim to that title.
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This amount isn't a "cost of litigation" settlement either, this is a "we pay this now, or we pay more later" settlement amount.
 
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The fact that cable news company can afford a $787 million settlement for making untruthful statements and keep on trucking, seems like a ****ing problem.
 
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CNN Is Furious That Fox News Settled the Dominion Lawsuit out of Court

You’d think nearly a billion dollars in damages would be enough to satiate, but CNN is really, really upset that this ended up not going to trial. Oliver Darcy and Alyson Camerota took to the airwaves in the aftermath and rhetorically shook their fists at the sky.

It feels pretty weird to be dunking on CNN given that Fox News did actually take a massive blow here. $787.5 million is a ton of money, even for a large, national news outlet. Yet, the hosts over on the liberal network are just so absurd that they always manage to outpace reality.

In the end, this was never about settling a dispute for those at CNN. It was about trying to destroy Fox News, the network that constantly dominates CNN in the ratings, as a shortcut to success. Here’s an idea for the liberal network. Instead of constantly trying to get ahead by silencing other networks, how about the executives over at CNN grow a backbone and start firing the overpaid, unpopular hosts that populate the lineup? They could start with Darcy and Camerota. Continuing to just jumble up the schedule, moving the same chess pieces around obviously isn’t working.

CNN Is Furious That Fox News Settled the Dominion Lawsuit out of Court
 
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I wonder if the cost of lawyers fees and taking it thru months of trial would have cost them just as much as the settlement or more...can't imagine a team working on this would be cheap.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
I wonder if the cost of lawyers fees and taking it thru months of trial would have cost them just as much as the settlement or more...can't imagine a team working on this would be cheap.
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I doubt there is a trial in the history of the American judicial system where the cost of litigation came anywhere close to three quarters of a billion dollars. My understanding is that defense lawyers bill hourly and this could have gotten into the tens of millions in fees range, but almost a billion would be unheard of. Cost of litigation equals or is greater than this settlement hypothesis is absurd.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
I doubt there is a trial in the history of the American judicial system where the cost of litigation came anywhere close to three quarters of a billion dollars. My understanding is that defense lawyers bill hourly and this could have gotten into the tens of millions in fees range, but almost a billion would be unheard of. Cost of litigation settlement hypothesis is absurd.
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At 5k( low end) for a form at 10k hours is 50 million...so say the trial went on longer then 6 months coupled with all the time before. Depending on hourly rate. I think it'd be possible at 1/2 billion
 
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OrangeBoro said:
Fox hasn’t been good in a while. Tucker is good and Waters other than that they are meh. I put on from time to time but not nearly like I used to. Of course they are still 10000000% times better than the state run DNC media
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"state run DC media", what a load of crap. You hate them and love Fox because they tell you what you want to hear, not what the truth is.

Well it's over, they admitted it to the tune of $800 million that they are liars and yet your complaint is that they don't lie enough. You truly are a brainless fool.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
At 5k( low end) for a form at 10k hours is 50 million...so say the trial went on longer then 6 months coupled with all the time before. Depending on hourly rate. I think it'd be possible at 1/2 billion
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FNC made $4.5 billion last year. This is about salvaging the revenue stream going forward.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
At 5k( low end) for a form at 10k hours is 50 million...so say the trial went on longer then 6 months coupled with all the time before. Depending on hourly rate. I think it'd be possible at 1/2 billion
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The litigation may been more than 6 months, but the trial would not have been. I'm not sure what "5k for a form at 10k hours" means. I do think 5k an hour and 10k hours for this trial are both way out of the range of reality if that is what you mean.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
The litigation may been more than 6 months, but the trial would not have been. I'm not sure what "5k for a form at 10k hours" means. I do think 5k an hour and 10k hours for this trial are both way out of the range of reality if that is what you mean.
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Firm... auto correct lol
These 2015 rates for some lawyers
Lawyers' Rising Hourly Fees - WSJ.com

I'm no far off
 
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GAVol said:
FNC made $4.5 billion last year. This is about salvaging the revenue stream going forward.
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Yep. And they are counting on their customers still being the same gullible fools that swallowed the BS they’ve been shoveling since 2020. Caught in a series of bold face lies but a lot of folks will keep watching because they don’t want to believe anything else. Nobody ever went broke relying on the stupidity of the American public.
 
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