Franklin may be on his way out!

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The source for this is apparently a friend of one of the defendants. The claim is that the video was shown to Franklin, to which Franklin responded with an order to delete the video.

That really does not make much sense that the person in question would show Franklin the video. So I don't think this part is likely to be true. Maybe the person is trying to bargain information for leniency?

The fact that they taped this on their cell phones and sent it to people is almost as stupid as it is depraved.

A good summary from the Daily Mail.

Four Vanderbilt football players accused of raping unconscious 21-year-old female student 'rammed through hallway door and covered security camera with a towel to move the victim' | Mail Online
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
Ummm. He accepted the job at Vandy, and then thought he could actually win championships there...

I think he's plenty stupid.
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He took the Vandy job as a stepping stone. There's no way he really believes he'll win championships there, he's using Vandy to get a big pay day at a better school. He goes to 3-4 bowls at Vandy and some bigger school will throw a ton of money at him and he'll be long gone.
 
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Volz4lif3 said:
Minus the championships he's done a miraculous job there..
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Dooley could have done a "miraculous" job there if he would schedule as many cupcakes as possible. The win over us is the ONLY thing they can brag about. Beating first year Mizzou, the worst Auburn team of the decade, a down Ole Miss squad, and a Tennessee team with the worst HC and DC in the country is nothing to brag about, nor could it be called miraculous.

Sorry, but I don't think Franklin is near as good a coach as people says he is. He had some talent last year, and he had coordinators who put together a way to win some games that anybody with a game plan could have won. Vandy got overlooked, and they played well enough to win a few. But Vandy will never, nor would they ever win a NC or even a SEC East title.

I would not even closely call his job at Vandy a "miraculous" one.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
He took the Vandy job as a stepping stone. There's no way he really believes he'll win championships there, he's using Vandy to get a big pay day at a better school. He goes to 3-4 bowls at Vandy and some bigger school will throw a ton of money at him and he'll be long gone.
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I think any school who REALLY looks at his record and resume won't touch him. He's never stayed anywhere long, he wins only by soft scheduling. He has no Top 25 wins (that I know of), and he has far too many character issues. He has yet to show that he is a coach that can take any program to the highest level. He doesn't belong in the SEC, and never has. I foresee him leaving Vandy fairly soon, IF he can get a job.

Of course, if this mess is true, then he will be in jail for a while, so it won't matter.
 
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Franklin will be at Vandy until they see him for what he is and figure out how to get rid of him. Any AD with 1/2 a brain will see his limited success for what it is-- beating cupcakes (most of the time), and losing to anyone that is even in the same zip code as relevant. i.e. See 1st game of this season.
 
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It might not matter to Vandy if its true or not. They refused to field competetive teams for years because they were afraid that it would hurt their prestige as a university. 3 years into this experiment of actually trying and they have this scandal, possibly involving the coach... I could see their board backing away from football quite fast. No more marginal cases getting in, closing the pocket book on facilities, etc.
 
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vol_in_ar said:
When Clay Travis starts tweeting about it, we'll know it's true
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If this is true, Travis will either be on suicide watch, or much more likely he'll turn on him so fast your head will spin; not to mention he'll act like he never thought he was awesome.
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
Maybe worse than Paterno if true.
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Really ought to see the 60 Minutes Sports piece on the prosecuting attorneys for the Penn State case, they really gave a different perspective on JoPa than what I originally read, heard, and thought.

They don't believe he obstructed anything but...could he have done more? Yes, but they weren't sure what. They pretty much buried the AD & president though, said they obstructed the investigation from the very beginning and are or will be pursuing their charges.

Really good watch for those that have Showtime.
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
I think any school who REALLY looks at his record and resume won't touch him. He's never stayed anywhere long, he wins only by soft scheduling. He has no Top 25 wins (that I know of), and he has far too many character issues. He has yet to show that he is a coach that can take any program to the highest level. He doesn't belong in the SEC, and never has. I foresee him leaving Vandy fairly soon, IF he can get a job.

Of course, if this mess is true, then he will be in jail for a while, so it won't matter.
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It's only his 3rd year as a HC. How can you say he doesn't stay anywhere? Hell, you would have a better argument by saying Butch Jones doesn't stay anywhere long.

Regarding the scheduling, he didn't make it last season. It was put together prior to him getting there. It's not his fault UT and Auburn sucked last year. They beat Ole Miss who went to a bowl. Out of conference they had Northwestern and UT had NCSU (pretty even).

Regarding taking a program to the highest level, no one will do that at Vandy. Being a consistent 6-7 win team is that program's ceiling.
 
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Boca Vol said:
It's only his 3rd year as a HC. How can you say he doesn't stay anywhere? Hell, you would have a better argument by saying Butch Jones doesn't stay anywhere long.

Regarding the scheduling, he didn't make it last season. It was put together prior to him getting there. It's not his fault UT and Auburn sucked last year. They beat Ole Miss who went to a bowl. Out of conference they had Northwestern and UT had NCSU (pretty even).

Regarding taking a program to the highest level, no one will do that at Vandy. Being a consistent 6-7 win team is that program's ceiling.
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Tougher schedule than Ohio St has every season, not that I care about Vandy - it just disgusts me to see Ohio St ranked so high with that cupcake schedule every damn season - as for the story wheres is Chris Low ?
 
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508mikey said:
Tougher schedule than Ohio St has every season, not that I care about Vandy - it just disgusts me to see Ohio St ranked so high with that cupcake schedule every damn season - as for the story wheres is Chris Low ?
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I hate Ohio State! I hope they make it to the NC and have a similar fate as ND. I wish it was UT delivering the blow but an SEC team or Oregon would kill them.
 
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vol_in_ar said:
When Clay Travis starts tweeting about it, we'll know it's true
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Clay's already mentioned it a couple times on his FB page. He acknowledges that there was probably a lot more ugly details to the case that are just now coming to light. He did address the Franklin bit; said that he feels if there was any sort of evidence linking Franklin he would have been charged, seeing as how Boyd was charged and he allegedly was just sent the video and deleted it.
 
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Boca Vol said:
It's only his 3rd year as a HC. How can you say he doesn't stay anywhere? Hell, you would have a better argument by saying Butch Jones doesn't stay anywhere long.

Regarding the scheduling, he didn't make it last season. It was put together prior to him getting there. It's not his fault UT and Auburn sucked last year. They beat Ole Miss who went to a bowl. Out of conference they had Northwestern and UT had NCSU (pretty even).

Regarding taking a program to the highest level, no one will do that at Vandy. Being a consistent 6-7 win team is that program's ceiling.
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Actually Northwestern was much better than NCSU last year. They went 10-3. They lost at Penn St. but also lost by 1 against Nebraska and lost in OT to Michigan, and they beat Miss. St. pretty soundly in the Gator Bowl.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Actually Northwestern was much better than NCSU last year. They went 10-3. They lost at Penn St. but also lost by 1 against Nebraska and lost in OT to Michigan, and they beat Miss. St. pretty soundly in the Gator Bowl.
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You're probably right about NW. This whole "easy scheduling" thing is overblown. Outside of Oregon, their schedule is pretty much like UT's this year.
 
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Boca Vol said:
You're probably right about NW. This whole "easy scheduling" thing is overblown. Outside of Oregon, their schedule is pretty much like UT's this year.
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I don't mind giving him credit for finally getting Vandy to win games they could/should. That's certainly been a huge problem for Vandy for years, as they would play better teams tough and then turn around and lose to Directional U.

But I do take issue with the guys like Travis who act like he's some awesome coach and the next big name, just because of that.
 
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Aesius said:
That's the editors covering their asses. It's the same reason reporters refer to murderers who are caught with the smoking gun as "suspects" until they're convicted in court.

Can't say something definitively happened in criminal cases until after the trial. Otherwise, you open yourself up to lawsuits for slander if they're acquitted.

That said, I would say publishing the article in the first place is questionable, unless they're very, very confident in their sources.
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Or they just want to run with something like early so that - were it to be true - they could claim they were the first to report it if it turns out to be true. (If it's wrong, they just say their sources were poor/incorrect and act like no harm no foul)

That's how media essentially works nowadays, especially in sports. Everyone wants to be the first to get a story out, not necessarily correct on it.

The only ones who have to be very confident in their sources are the big boys like ESPN.
 
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