Franklin Roosevelt -vs- Ronald Reagan

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#27
utvolpj said:
nice to have a WW to boost UE #'s
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True. Massive govt employment (military mostly) helped these numbers. However, the foundation for stable employment had been laid. Many economists predicted a return to the Depression after <14 million soldiers returned to the job market. Didn't happen. In fact, one of the largest and longest economic booms in our nation's history followed.
 
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I admire FDR during the war years because he was dying yet he knew he brought stability and confidence to the country so he pressed on.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
I mean, you might disagree with him (FTR I'm leaning against SS), but I see what he means. I don't make six figures, so I might be biased... but it can be beneficial to some.
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Yeah, not like I said that it would put me on easy street....
 
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JayVols said:
True. Massive govt employment (military mostly) helped these numbers. However, the foundation for stable employment had been laid. Many economists predicted a return to the Depression after <14 million soldiers returned to the job market. Didn't happen. In fact, one of the largest and longest economic booms in our nation's history followed.
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and many think that without WWII FDR's programs would have prolonged the depression. Essentially he "lucked into" (another debate) the war saving this country
 
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JayVols said:
I have no problem with you seeing it that way. It may be a tax, but I feel it will benefit me more directly than most other taxes I pay. I have no issues with SS.
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I will never see a dime of the money I was forced to put into SS. I will never benefit from it.
 
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JayVols said:
I have no problem with you seeing it that way. It may be a tax, but I feel it will benefit me more directly than most other taxes I pay. I have no issues with SS.
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IMO the question is can you get more out of SS than you put in? If so then it's essentially a handout
 
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utvolpj said:
and many think that without WWII FDR's programs would have prolonged the depression. Essentially he "lucked into" (another debate) the war saving this country
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The main argument is the war essentially being a wide scale public works project which in theory, bumped us out of the economic downturn.
 
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bam15 said:
The main argument is the war essentially being a wide scale public works project which in theory, bumped us out of the economic downturn.
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Yes. Whether I believe it or not, WWII could be used to support the argument that massive govt spending can end a depression. Not saying I buy that, but the point could be made.
 
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Pepe_Silvia said:
I will never see a dime of the money I was forced to put into SS. I will never benefit from it.
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Sorry. I could go for it now. I have continued to work despite a debilitating disease (diagnosed 8 years ago- 18 total years on current job) that has no cure because I value the satisfaction of a good day's work. I am glad that if I ever reach the point that I can no longer work despite my best efforts that I won't have to beg to feed my 2 daughters (8 and 6).
 
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JayVols said:
Sorry. I could go for it now. I have continued to work despite a debilitating disease (diagnosed 8 years ago- 18 total years on current job) that has no cure because I value the satisfaction of a good day's work. I am glad that if I ever reach the point that I can no longer work despite my best efforts that I won't have to beg to feed my 2 daughters (8 and 6).
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you mean you aren't some worthless derp who wishes to live off mothers milk? I don't believe it.
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
I admire FDR during the war years because he was dying yet he knew he brought stability and confidence to the country so he pressed on.
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This also had its backlashes. The man left Truman completely in the dark even though he knew he was dying.
 
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