Freedom of speech vs islam.

[gsvol]

pretty much stopped right there but appreciate the effort



those are blogeriffic interpretations on what he said but where did he say that "have the right to practice jihad"?

Actually I believe it was an Obama appointee who made that statement, my bad.

The president's top counterterrorism adviser on Wednesday called jihad a "legitimate tenet of Islam," arguing that the term "jihadists" should not be used to describe America's enemies.

During a speech at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, John Brennan described violent extremists as victims of "political, economic and social forces," but said that those plotting attacks on the United States should not be described in "religious terms."

He repeated the administration argument that the enemy is not "terrorism," because terrorism is a "tactic," and not terror, because terror is a "state of mind" -- though Brennan's title, deputy national security adviser for counterterrorism and homeland security, includes the word "terrorism" in it. But then Brennan said that the word "jihad" should not be applied either.
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The comment comes after Brennan, in a February speech in which he described his respect for the tolerance and devotion of Middle Eastern nations, referred to Jerusalem on first reference by its Arabic name, Al-Quds.

I think we all know though that the leaders of only one religion on Earth, islam, has promised to destroy America.

Likewise Obambi defends islam at every turn, when asked about jihad in India he instead praised islam as being a great religion.

Obama Praises Islam During Trip to India


Pardon me if I don't see anything so great about a religion that has been responsible for the slaughter of millions upon untold millions to advance it's dominance throught it's bloody history from the mid seventh century until this very day.

and there are lots of Muslims who feel the same way yet many want to lump them into the group with bombs strapped to their bodies blowing up schools.

Yes but that has nothing to do with islam trying to squelch free speech in secular countries.

The point is that islamists push laws in nonislamic states that restrict comments they consider 'islamophobic', leading those nations to pass 'hate crimes' laws that restrict the rights of non moslems or even moslems from making public statements that do not support islam and it's agenda.

It is a tactic that in a round-a-bout way restricts free speech and that is the purpose of that tactic.

Oklahoma Judge: Sharia Law is not Actually a set of Laws | Logan's Warning

I challenge anyone to show me a version of Sharia Law, that does not discriminate against non-Muslims and women. No one can, because the Koran discriminates against both groups of people. If Muslim men are not marrying more than one wife here, it is only because they do not want to go to jail for bigamy. Are they supposed to be applauded for that? Once again CAIR has used the law of the land, against the land.

Actually many moslem men do marry here who already have one or more wives in their native country.

 

[rmsmith]

Yep, bout any way you fix it.

Im partial to hickory smoked.

Me too. 180 degrees for about 4-5 hrs. mmmmm

 

[gsvol]

No.

No what??

To be a Christian one must make a personal profession of faith, in islam if you are born to a moslem father then you are a moslem for life.

One can reounce Christianity with impunity, it is usually considered a death penalty offense to leave islam.

Unless you want to be homosexual, or have an abortion, or use contraceptive, or eat pork. i'm sure there are more examples

Those are your choices, Christianity doesn't forbid such things they just say they are wrong, unlike islam.

BTW, I've never heard of any sect of Christianity that forbids the consumption of pork.

I think you must be certifiably off base on that, among other things.

Or worship your Eddie poster while listening to "Number of the Beast."

If that is your choice then that's what you do.

I wouldn't go around bragging about it though, if that's what I did.

hard to have a death certificate without a birth certificate.

Guess that leaves Obama out in the cold then??

 

[rmsmith]

No what??


BTW, I've never heard of any sect of Christianity that forbids the consumption of pork.

Question, does Christianity completely disregard the Old testament?

Guess that leaves Obama out in the cold then??

What's this?

 

[DinkinFlicka]

No what??

To be a Christian one must make a personal profession of faith, in islam if you are born to a moslem father then you are a moslem for life.

You can say that, but a man's religion (or lack of) is his choice. I don't let words dictate my life, only consequence.

If that is your choice then that's what you do.

I wouldn't go around bragging about it though, if that's what I did.

Yes, because I'm totally serious about worshiping a fictional mascot of an overrated 80's metal band.

I swear sometimes I think you take a few drags of some two-hitter quitter before you come on here to post.

 

[BeecherVol]

Question, does Christianity completely disregard the Old testament?

Not disregarded as in, none of it matters

The Old Testament still serves in many ways. The rituals and rules that were followed in the Old Testament where to seek righteousness in the eyes of God, during its time.

The New Testament replaced the righteousness with grace when it came to salvation. The grace being Jesus Christ. Where many times he claimed the only way to the Father (God) was through him.

 

[rmsmith]

Not disregarded as in, none of it matters

The Old Testament still serves in many ways. The rituals and rules that were followed in the Old Testament where to seek righteousness in the eyes of God, during its time.

The New Testament replaced the righteousness with grace when it came to salvation. The grace being Jesus Christ. Where many times he claimed the only way to the Father (God) was through him.

So Jesus made pork ok?

 

[lumberjack4]

Christianity is all about personal choice.

:lolabove: Thanks for the laugh.

 

[gsvol]

Question, does Christianity completely disregard the Old testament?


What's this?

That is a certificate of live birth and an admittedly fake
one at that. Not the same as a birth certificate.

Mein Kampf is a top seller in the Arab world, the
Palestinian Authority passes them out in parts of
Israel under moslem control.

You can say that, but a man's religion (or lack of) is his choice. I don't let words dictate my life, only consequence.




Yes, because I'm totally serious about worshiping a fictional mascot of an overrated 80's metal band.

I swear sometimes I think you take a few drags of some two-hitter quitter before you come on here to post.

And I think your bong never goes out.

Does Islam and Shariah Have More In Common With
Nazi Ideology Than With Religion?

When Islam was founded by Muhammad ibn Abdallah
in the 7th century... bloody wars and conquests
against fellow Arabs, and Jewish tribes... quickly
moved out to conquer the Persian, Byzantine
empires.. India... Spain.

All was done under the sword or through discrimination
... Overview of Shariah: The holy book of Islam – the
Qur’an.. war, conquest, and the treatment of non-
Muslims. .. Shariah dictates every aspect .. life..total
system.. government should rule as well.. a religio-
political entity and ideally guided by a caliph
(“successor”) to Muhammad [...] Islam and Muslims
as superior to every other religion, and view non-Muslims
as “dhimmi” (plural, “dhimma”) who are regarded as
inferior to Muslims under Islamic law. It is the dhimma
(namely Jews, Christians, and other monotheistic
religions) who must pay the jizya and kharaj (poll and
land taxes) .. must also wear distinctive clothing ..

The Nazi-Islamic Alliance: During the 1930’s Muslims
of all different nationalities (most notably Arabs and
Persians) were very sympathetic to Adolph Hitler and
Nazism.... Hitler .. Himmler only had respectful things
to say of Islam.. Hitler.. said.. it would have been
better if Germany had possessed the “Mohammedan
religion” rather than the “meekness and flabbiness”
of Christianity..

:lolabove: Thanks for the laugh.

That's your choice.

 

[rmsmith]

That is a certificate of live birth and an admittedly fake
one at that. Not the same as a birth certificate.

So i guess he can be born in hawaii but get a birth certificate from kenya or somewhere?
Personally i couldn't care less where he was born.

 

[rmsmith]

Well airport is finally done for the night (well the area i deal with) Have a good night.

 

[BeecherVol]

So Jesus made pork ok?

Simple answer would be yes.

There are a lot of people that still consider themselves "under the OT law" (many of these did not see Christ as the son of God). As you will read in the NT, it was a stumbling block for many in Jesus day, and is true til now.

He didn't abolish the law, he just changed its priority when it came to being judged in the end.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Rmsmith and Beeecher, ya'll both know nothing compares to a boston butt that's been smoked for about 8 hours.

This is something I whipped up for my brothers and sisters last 4th of July in Jackson... it ain't very big, but it sure tasted great:

And I think your bong never goes out.

Question... why don't you just load yourself up with some munitions and go wage your own silly, little war with Islam? Seriously, less talk, GS.

And for the record, I never light up before the sun goes down... during weekdays.

 

[gsvol]

Rmsmith and Beeecher, ya'll both know nothing compares to a boston butt that's been smoked for about 8 hours.

This is something I whipped up for my brothers and sisters last 4th of July in Jackson... it ain't very big, but it sure tasted great:

Question... why don't you just load yourself up with some munitions and go wage your own silly, little war with Islam? Seriously, less talk, GS.

And for the record, I never light up before the sun goes down... during weekdays.

Why don't you write a cook book, while getting
high and ignoring reality and acting POed if someone
does want to discuss what is actually going on in
the world today?? :hi:

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Why don't you write a cook book, while getting
high and ignoring reality and acting POed if someone
does want to discuss what is actually going on in
the world today?? :hi:

Yeah, gs.... I'M ignoring reality:lolabove:


Just remember, I'm the head and more people here think you're crazier than I am.

 

[gsvol]

Yeah, gs.... I'M ignoring reality:lolabove:


Just remember, I'm the head and more people here think you're crazier than I am.

Only in your own poor feeble mind. :wacko:

Start a poll thread asking the posters. :neener2:

Not that it has anything at all to do with
islam and our traditional freedom of speech. :glare:

 

[BeecherVol]

Rmsmith and Beeecher, ya'll both know nothing compares to a boston butt that's been smoked for about 8 hours.

This is something I whipped up for my brothers and sisters last 4th of July in Jackson... it ain't very big, but it sure tasted great:

This is about 200 lbs. of Cheatham Countys finest.
Smoked this up about 2 months ago, fed about 500 Free Will Baptist with it.

 

[rmsmith]

This is about 200 lbs. of Cheatham Countys finest.
Smoked this up about 2 months ago, fed about 500 Free Will Baptist with it.

It might last me and my co-workers about 3 hours hahah

 

[BeecherVol]

It might last me and my co-workers about 3 hours hahah

Lasted about 45 mins with my crowd.

I enjoy cookin it.

 

[gsvol]

We bar-b-que a whole hog every once in a while,
my next door neighbor has a scalding tank and a
walk-in cooler. Gotta love good neighbors!