Freeze and Dabo negative religious recruit UT

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volfan_89 said:
They did appear to write about Jesus but they both were born after Jesus died, which means their accounts were at best second hand.
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Ok, so any scholar who wrote about figures just before their time are not good sources? First, Tacitus lived right after the death of Christ. Second, he was known as a great historian, so he wasn't going to make anything up, especially when he didn't care for Christians. There are many scholars through the years who have written about past figures, but they aren't deemed to be untrue.
 
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VolGee4 said:
Ok, so any scholar who wrote about figures just before their time are not good sources? First, Tacitus lived right after the death of Christ. Second, he was known as a great historian, so he wasn't going to make anything up, especially when he didn't care for Christians. There are many scholars through the years who have written about past figures, but they aren't deemed to be untrue.
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Never said they were true or not. Just that they are two second hand accounts. Wouldn't you think there'd be more eye witness accounts of Jesus if what the bible says of him is true? Which states that if all the miracles of Jesus were written down that all the books in the world wouldn't be able to hold them. Out of all the people that witnessed Jesus's miracles no one, other than a handful of his closest friends wrote about what they saw.
 
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There is a special place in hell :devilsmoke: for coaches who use religion to screw fellow coaches.
 
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Vol'n'beers said:
No. Your nasal passage doesn't connect with your throat?
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Apparently there are a lot of mouth breathers in this thread. Although when pointing out 'design' flaws I'm not sure I would've went the direction you did. I might start with the closeness of a woman's urethra to the anus and their propensity to get urinary tract infections because of it.
 
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Vol'n'beers said:
Actually it seems like there are roughly 2x10^24 atoms in the average human body which means about 1.4x10^34 atoms in all humans. That's just humans. Then there are animals, algae, plants, and the earth itself include water, land, liquid mag-ma, atmosphere, etc. I can't find any resources, but I dare say there are a lot of atoms in our planet, many more in the known universe.
In case anyone wanted to know.
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Love these scientific "facts" :eek:lol::eek:lol::eek:lol:
 
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BigZiti09 said:
The video I linked earlier talks about such things. It's not a talk about lack of evidence of life which I think is what you surmised but rather a talk on evidence that points toward the universe being so incredibly fine tuned that it points to a fine tuner. Talks about something called irreducible complexity which I thought was really cool.
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I think I understood it right, well guessed what it was about. I still have a problem with this idea that the universe is "finely tuned." Somehow things that are magnificent were meant to be that way? What is finely tuned about black holes or stars exploding? There is even great variety among those things.
As for the circumstances that lead to our life, I think we've covered the odds (great) that life should exist. Nothing fine tuned about it.
Is it complex? Of course and we learn a fraction more about it every day. The gaps in our knowledge though do not preclude some idea that things were set into play.
 
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volfan_89 said:
Apparently there are a lot of mouth breathers in this thread. Although when pointing out 'design' flaws I'm not sure I would've went the direction you did. I might start with the closeness of a woman's urethra to the anus and their propensity to get urinary tract infections because of it.
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Now maybe some can understand why Christians tend to get defensive.
 
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All I know is Dabo and Freeze putting their Christianity in public is actually against Christianity.
 
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volfan_89 said:
Apparently there are a lot of mouth breathers in this thread. Although when pointing out 'design' flaws I'm not sure I would've went the direction you did. I might start with the closeness of a woman's urethra to the anus and their propensity to get urinary tract infections because of it.
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I like the eating/breathing one because they are two essentials for our life. I guess reproduction is another and the line about waste disposal and entertainment district has always made me laugh. There really are a lot of ways we could change the human DNA for the better if we were so inclined. As an engineer I think I would've done a better job. Especially with myself I mean come on . . .
 
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BruinVol said:
@SECfootball: Report: Former Ole Miss assistant loses job due to NCAA investigation https://t.co/rNfS0GjtEt

Here is some of the ole miss fallout. Pretty surprising news tonight it seems
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Fwiw, Ole Miss AD Russ Bjork was quick to answer "No" when the Jackson Clarion-Ledger asked if they had been cited for Lack of Institutional Control (a Level I violation) but declined to respond when asked if they had been cited for Failure to Monitor, which is it's Level II equivalency. Former assistant David Saunders has already been hit with an 8 year show cause penalty for his time at Louisiana Lafayette which involved academic fraud and payments to recruits. The NCAA contends this pattern of behavior began while he was an assistant at Ole Miss under Houston Nutt. The notice of allegations includes 5 allegations related to Laremy Tunsil which obviously are alleged to have occurred under Hugh Freeze after they knew they were already under an NCAA investigation.

You're crazy if you think they're getting off with nothing here.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Fwiw, Ole Miss AD Russ Bjork was quick to answer "No" when the Jackson Clarion-Ledger asked if they had been cited for Lack of Institutional Control (a Level I violation) but declined to respond when asked if they had been cited for Failure to Monitor, which is it's Level II equivalency. Former assistant David Saunders has already been hit with an 8 year show cause penalty for his time at Louisiana Lafayette which involved academic fraud and payments to recruits. The NCAA contends this pattern of behavior began while he was an assistant at Ole Miss under Houston Nutt. The notice of allegations includes 5 allegations related to Laremy Tunsil which obviously are alleged to have occurred under Hugh Freeze after they knew they were already under an NCAA investigation.

You're crazy if you think they're getting off with nothing here.
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Oh they are getting some penalties for sure but nothing that will hurt IMO. As posted before we self imposed because jones waved to the basketball crowd. Something will happen to ole miss but I doubt it's more than a scholarship or 2
 
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Somehow we didn't get a "dis gon be good" gif in the first few pages of the thread. Kind of disappointed.
 
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BruinVol said:
Wow just wow

Unreal the assumptions the sports world makes

I mean good grief our coach had self imposed penalties for waving to the crowd at a basketball game.

Breaking NCAA rules doesn't make anyone less of a Christ follower and in fact in many cases it might mean the opposite
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If your using Jesus to recruit football players, I question your Christian values. It's one thing to share your religious beliefs, but to use them as a recruiting tool? Sorry, I have a problem with that. Freeze and Dabo need to worry about keeping their own houses in order.
 
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Weezer said:
If your using Jesus to recruit football players, I question your Christian values. It's one thing to share your religious beliefs, but to use them as a recruiting tool? Sorry, I have a problem with that. Freeze and Dabo need to worry about keeping their own houses in order.
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What if one is the main reasons a coach coaches is to impact kids in a positive way off the field and they hope also impact them in a spiritual way?

Shouldn't that coach disclose to the recruit and family that he hopes he gets the opportunity to make such an impact in that kids life?

Seems like a kid that doesn't want to hear about faith deserves to know what they are getting into to me
 
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BruinVol said:
No doubt it could be

Same with Cruz and Rubio pushing faith hard

IMO freeze tweets are genuine or at the very least should be treated at such
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Actions will always speak louder than words.
 
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BruinVol said:
Oh they are getting some penalties for sure but nothing that will hurt IMO. As posted before we self imposed because jones waved to the basketball crowd. Something will happen to ole miss but I doubt it's more than a scholarship or 2
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I think you're underestimating the impact of all the complaints the NCAA has been getting about Ole Miss recruiting practices and the impact of the Laremy Tunsil violations while they were already in the middle of a lengthy investigation. That's a really bad look. I think they get 5 years probation for football and lose between 5-10 scholarships over a two year span. That would hurt.

There should be resolution to this by the start of the season. We'll see what happens but Ole Miss football is no sacred cow.
 
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Vol'n'beers said:
Actually, the latest ideas have life, as single cells on this planet go, to have originated in the 1-3 billion year range (depending on what you read). There are very reasonable explanations for what happened in the interim. One that I like is that during that period of planetary bombardment, some of this early life was dislodged from this planet and found its way back at a later time aboard the debris along with the water it needed to grow.

Hell, the oldest hominids have been around for a few million years. Life itself goes back much further. If I were you I'd take the book you're reading and throw it out the window.

I will say this, there is ample evidence to suggest that if there is a "creator" that that being is, in turn, the worst engineer/doctor/etc. that man has ever known.
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Blanket statements and way more reaching as to why we are here than those who believe in Creationism. It speaks of self-aggrandizement and is straight up delusional to believe simpletons like human beings and random chance could land us where we are today.
 
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BruinVol said:
What if one is the main reasons a coach coaches is to impact kids in a positive way off the field and they hope also impact them in a spiritual way?

Shouldn't that coach disclose to the recruit and family that he hopes he gets the opportunity to make such an impact in that kids life?

Seems like a kid that doesn't want to hear about faith deserves to know what they are getting into to me
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Ole Miss is a public university. The head coach of their football program shouldn't be using his position to sell his religion. Lead through actions. You don't have to preach to a young man to help guide him spiritually.

And before it's alleged I'm not, yes, I am a Christian. I just don't believe religion is a commodity to be sold to help one recruit. Remember Urban? Anyone remember he told a recruit God had sent him a dream that he was meant to coach that kid? Yeah, then he "retired" the next year.

Religion is not a selling point. If you want to guide people, walk the walk. The talk will sort itself out later.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I think you're underestimating the impact of all the complaints the NCAA has been getting about Ole Miss recruiting practices and the impact of the Laremy Tunsil violations while they were already in the middle of a lengthy investigation. That's a really bad look. I think they get 5 years probation for football and lose between 5-10 scholarships over a two year span. That would hurt.

There should be resolution to this by the start of the season. We'll see what happens but Ole Miss football is no sacred cow.
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Yes 5-10 scholarships would hurt for sure but wouldn't that harsh of a penalty come with a bowl ban as well?
 
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