Freeze and Dabo negative religious recruit UT

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Anytime anything remotely religious is mentioned on VN, its always met with negativity on one level or another. It also almost always evolves into a pissing match. Right on cue VN.

Dabo and Freeze are obviously scum bags, especially Dabo. I mean he likes Christian type values and actually prays. Thats silliness and CF has no room for that kind of behavior. He would be a much, much better coach if he would just embrace atheism. I mean look how terrible he has done so far. Maybe if he just forgot about God, he could start winning.
 
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BruinVol said:
You 100% posted that there Was very little proof other than the Bible that a Jesus of Nazareth every existed in any form.
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This was my post...

Coach_Z said:
Well, Jesus of Nazareth was a man, he did exist, and he did die on a cross. Who he was and why he died is the discussion.
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Care to provide evidence of that from a source other than the bible? Outside of the bible there is almost no first hand accounts or records of Jesus. Seems kinda odd for someone who supposedly worked so many miracles that all the books in the world combined together couldn't hold them. And I don't say this to anger anyone, I spent the better part of my life in a Christian household, and going to church three plus times a week.

Where do I say 100% there's little proof Jesus of Nazareth ever existed in any form? All I did was throw doubt to the biblical version of him.
 
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volfan_89 said:
Care to provide evidence of that from a source other than the bible? Outside of the bible there is almost no first hand accounts or records of Jesus.






Where do I say 100% there's little proof Jesus of Nazareth ever existed in any form? All I did was throw doubt to the biblical version of him.
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Read your own post
 
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BruinVol said:
Read your own post
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I typed it. Apparently you've implied for yourself what my post meant. Again I never said Jesus didn't exist just that outside of the bible there's almost no first hand accounts or records of him. If you have proof other wise, please post it.
 
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StoVol, you have an impressive reading list, I am envious. Atlas Shrugged is my favorite all time book.
I get a little carried away talking about science. I probably talk over my head and would expect to be corrected when appropriate. I also don't like to have inaccuracies out there that others may take as truth and try to correct if possible. Perhaps that seems uppity but I mean in those terms only. No disrespect.

I don't like getting into religious conversations like this. They always devolve to hurt feelings and negativity. I get sucked in by the science though.

I'm suspect of your 10^58 atoms in the universe. That seems like a number in the human body or something.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
He's referring to the progress the program has made since he's been there; on the field. God doesn't care one bit about Ole Miss's on-field results. Is Vandy bad because God chose not to bless that program?
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No... Vandy is so snooty, even God can't root for them.:thumbsup:
 
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BruinVol said:
I agree that ignorance won't be an excuse to completely let freeze off the hook

IMO there is a huge difference in NCAA infractions when the acts were created by boosters and assistant coaches. If ole miss assistants coaches committed level 1 infractions freeze will pay a sharp price for that and rightfully so.

If it's the same renegade boosters that have been operating in a dirty way for years and years freeze gets a slap on the wrist and that's appropriate IMO
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Is anyone watching those sneaky Tueys from the Blind Side? IT was a true story you know.
 
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volfan_89 said:
I typed it numb-nuts. Apparently you've implied for yourself what my post meant. Again I never said Jesus didn't exist just that outside of the bible there's almost no first hand accounts or records of him. If you have proof other wise, please post it.
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God Bless you and your quest to understand context of the post you are quoting

Good evening sir.
 
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volfan_89 said:
Putting words in my mouth bruh. I never implied that Jesus didn't exist, just that outside of the bible, there's almost no first hand accounts of him. My first post still stands. You'd think that someone who worked so many miracles and had thousands upon thousands coming to see him, hear him speak and work his miracles there'd be more evidence of it.
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Have you ever thought that maybe God felt that the only record/evidence of His beloved Son that was necessary was the Bible? That's the beauty of the Bible...books come and go, but the Bible is the one that stands the test of time. Do you think that's coincidence? I don't.

All first hand accounts of Jesus (through his apostles and other disciples), all his miracles, and all the evidence are in the Bible...the only book that ever mattered to God. Believing in Jesus and all the things he did is part of your faith.
 
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volfan_89 said:
And may the Flying Spaghetti Monster bless you and your quest for reading comprehension.
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It was misleading. But there is no sense in arguing about it as this point.

I had to look it up, and there appear to be some writings by the Hebrew Josephus and the Roman Tacitus that mention the existence of Jesus.

I don't care to get in another debate.
 
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Actually it seems like there are roughly 2x10^24 atoms in the average human body which means about 1.4x10^34 atoms in all humans. That's just humans. Then there are animals, algae, plants, and the earth itself include water, land, liquid mag-ma, atmosphere, etc. I can't find any resources, but I dare say there are a lot of atoms in our planet, many more in the known universe.
In case anyone wanted to know.
 
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VolGee4 said:
It was misleading. But there is no sense in arguing about it as this point.

I had to look it up, and there appear to be some writings by the Hebrew Josephus and the Roman Tacitus that mention the existence of Jesus.

I don't care to get in another debate.
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They did appear to write about Jesus but they both were born after Jesus died, which means their accounts were at best second hand.
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
Have you ever thought that maybe God felt that the only record/evidence of His beloved Son that was necessary was the Bible? That's the beauty of the Bible...books come and go, but the Bible is the one that stands the test of time. Do you think that's coincidence? I don't.

All first hand accounts of Jesus (through his apostles and other disciples), all his miracles, and all the evidence are in the Bible...the only book that ever mattered to God. Believing in Jesus and all the things he did is part of your faith.
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There are other older books that have been around longer than the bible so I'm not sure I would go by that alone.

I totally agree about having to have faith. That's a main reason I no longer do. Even as a child faith never came easy for me. As an adult it became more difficult.
 
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Vol'n'beers said:
Actually it seems like there are roughly 2x10^24 atoms in the average human body which means about 1.4x10^34 atoms in all humans. That's just humans. Then there are animals, algae, plants, and the earth itself include water, land, liquid mag-ma, atmosphere, etc. I can't find any resources, but I dare say there are a lot of atoms in our planet, many more in the known universe.
In case anyone wanted to know.
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The video I linked earlier talks about such things. It's not a talk about lack of evidence of life which I think is what you surmised but rather a talk on evidence that points toward the universe being so incredibly fine tuned that it points to a fine tuner. Talks about something called irreducible complexity which I thought was really cool.

Anyway, as a Christian I think this type of thing is not talked about enough in church. Young Christians aren't often equipped to answer questions about creation. It may not be a big deal to some but I think about these things. Sean McDowell is the best I've found on this topic from a Christian perspective.
 
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Vol'n'beers said:
And cancer apparently. And Zika virus, polio, scurvy, lupus, etc. We have extremely delicate systems that easily fail. The earth itself will kill us given any opportunity. And we have plans (dna) that are often flawed and result in a whole host of other problems. For some reason we must eat through the same part of our bodies that we breathe. That's just dumb. So, if your statement above is correct, then my statement about being a lousy creator is also true.
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You eat with your nose??
 
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VolGee4 said:
It was misleading. But there is no sense in arguing about it as this point.

I had to look it up, and there appear to be some writings by the Hebrew Josephus and the Roman Tacitus that mention the existence of Jesus.

I don't care to get in another debate.
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I recall hearing about other letters or "gospels" written by maybe Phillip and Thomas, and maybe even Mary Magdalene that obviously didn't make it into the Bible. Those, with Matthew, Mark, John, and Peter (I don't believe Luke had met Jesus, but got much of his account from Mary) gives us at least 8 other documented accounts of His life.

Again, I may have gotten some of those names wrong, but there certainly seems to be quite a few individuals that wrote about Jesus.

How many different eyewitness documents were written about Caesar Augustus or Herod? Not trying to be smart, just curious. I honestly have no idea.
 
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