Fresh off the Press: McCain suspends campaigning

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Considering McCain was part of the Keating 5, the idea that he would go to Washington and provide leadership on a banking crisis would be funny if he wasn't trying to be serious.
 
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I think its a fair move by McCain. This current issue in Congress deserves 100% participation. A debate is meaningless at this point in the congressional agenda.
 
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615 Vol said:
You can't be serious.
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the problem with you libs is that you've had the clintons as an example for so long, you can't think that someone can actually serious or sincere. given mccain's history, i would say that he is being serious.

do you really think mccain is scared to debate obama? he'll wipe the floor with him and use his ears as a squeegy (sp)
 
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615 Vol said:
I'm just mad that the debate is getting cancelled. That's all.
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Is it for sure? I just heard it might, and even then, it won't be cancelled, just postponed. I would guess Obama would have to ultimately agree to postpone it for it to be pushed back from this Friday.
 
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joevol320 said:
the problem with you libs is that you've had the clintons as an example for so long, you can't think that someone can actually serious or sincere. given mccain's history, i would say that he is being serious.

do you really think mccain is scared to debate obama? he'll wipe the floor with him and use his ears as a squeegy (sp)
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First of all, I have a problem if Obama does this too or if he is a part of this so it's not just about McCain. As far as the debate, I know McCain is not scared, never said he was, but I don't think he will wipe the floor either. I look for it to be pretty even once it's over. Gore was supposed to wipe the floor with Bush, he didn't, Harold Ford was supposed to wipe the floor with Corker, he didn't. I look for this to be about the same.
 
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MG1968 said:
it's true his recent populist rhetoric isn't endearing himself to conservatives. If you're referring to the Keating 5, McCain's role in that was dismissed as minor and irrelevant.
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oklavol said:
Considering McCain was part of the Keating 5, the idea that he would go to Washington and provide leadership on a banking crisis would be funny if he wasn't trying to be serious.
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maybe you're a bit too predictable? :eek:lol:
 
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This is a bad move on several levels.
1. Its already looking like Obama wanted to do this as a joint announcement and McCain cut him on it.
2. It is playing into the hysteria of the MSM, great for campaigning but bad for our situation.
3. Its going to polticize this event, whether he likes it or not.
4. It makes us look weak that we cannot handle a debate during this event.
 
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MontereyVol said:
This is a bad move on several levels.
1. Its already looking like Obama wanted to do this as a joint announcement and McCain cut him on it.
2. It is playing into the hysteria of the MSM, great for campaigning but bad for our situation.
3. Its going to polticize this event, whether he likes it or not.
4. It makes us look weak that we cannot handle a debate during this event.
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Who do you think it hurts more, McCain or Obama?
 
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Now we have President Bush addressing the nation tonight to push his bail out plan.

I say if each candidate is serious about distancing themselves from Bush and his economic policies, they should use the debate Friday where 100 Million people will be watching to discuss the merits of their plans and ideas.

The president has a bully pulpit, and these guys have a substantive debate. I think they could shape this debate more effectively debating it in front of 100 million people better than they could sitting on a congressional committee.

I think it is idiotic to postpone the debate if these guys really do think they have a plan and it is best.

If Obama really does want to keep the debate it tells me he is using the occasion wisely. These guys are going to be president and we have a real-time crisis to see how they would deal with it.
 
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615 Vol said:
Who do you think it hurts more, McCain or Obama?
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Depends on how the MSM runs with it? If they show that Obama tried to do this as a joint statement and McCain pulled a stunt, I don't think it is going to play well with the American people (actually I think it will kill his bid).

If the MSM doesn't run with that angle I think it will hurt Obama.
 
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rjd970 said:
Now we have President Bush addressing the nation tonight to push his bail out plan.

I say if each candidate is serious about distancing themselves from Bush and his economic policies, they should use the debate Friday where 100 Million people will be watching to discuss the merits of their plans and ideas.

The president has a bully pulpit, and these guys have a substantive debate. I think they could shape this debate more effectively debating it in fron of 100 million people better than they could sitting on a congressional committee.

I think it is idiotic to postpone the debate if these guys really do think they have a plan and it is best.
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Exactly what we don't need this to turn into, a political pissing contest!
 
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Sorry if I have been a little mouthy today. My dog busted my head open this morning. I have a nice slash above my left eye. I'm in a bad mood. :banghead2:
 
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oklavol said:
Considering McCain was part of the Keating 5, the idea that he would go to Washington and provide leadership on a banking crisis would be funny if he wasn't trying to be serious.
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The Keating 5 involved S&L's; not banks. He's in the clear. :good!:
 
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rjd970 said:
Now we have President Bush addressing the nation tonight to push his bail out plan.

I say if each candidate is serious about distancing themselves from Bush and his economic policies, they should use the debate Friday where 100 Million people will be watching to discuss the merits of their plans and ideas.

The president has a bully pulpit, and these guys have a substantive debate. I think they could shape this debate more effectively debating it in fron of 100 million people better than they could sitting on a congressional committee.

I think it is idiotic to postpone the debate if these guys really do think they have a plan and it is best.
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I'm actually proud of the Republicans now. I think you're going to see support for his position as POTUS, but no one is going to back him. Cheney apparently was eaten alive yesterday, they say that is why Bush is coming on tonight.
 
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So McCain has time to attend Bill Clinton's forum, but he can't take time out to have the debate for 1 hr or so?
:question:
 
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MontereyVol said:
Depends on how the MSM runs with it? If they show that Obama tried to do this as a joint statement and McCain pulled a stunt, I don't think it is going to play well with the American people (actually I think it will kill his bid).

If the MSM doesn't run with that angle I think it will hurt Obama.
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Well, Obama will consult the MSM on Thursday as to how he wants this to be perceived. :)
 
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oklavol said:
Considering McCain was part of the Keating 5, the idea that he would go to Washington and provide leadership on a banking crisis would be funny if he wasn't trying to be serious.
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what little research I've done on the Keating 5 leads me to believe that McCain's involvement was ancillary at best. However, if it makes you feel better by hanging it on his shoulders, bully for you. You were never a McCain supporter in the first place, so there is little risk to you in bringing up something so tenuous.
 
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MontereyVol said:
Remember MSM is all about ratings, so they may not run the angle? Obama is getting out in front too much for them right now.
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I know what you mean. It's been up and down all year and it seems that whoever happens to be lucky enough to be up on November 4th will win.


I just realized how stupid this sounds. Of course the winner will be up, duh, I meant this election is like a game of musical chairs and whoever has a seat on November 4th will be a winner instead of a clear cut favorite winning.
 
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