Fromm possibly entering draft

[GVF]

I honestly think the move to Washington helped him. Not sure if its Kirby or Coley, but UGA's offense isn't going to put many QB's into the league. Strangely enough it has put in a few WR's.

I was probably editing when you replied, but I still see QB's like Eason as more successful prospects to the NFL. Full RPO type QB's still don't seem to transition as well as a pocket QB. The NFL system has migrated some, but it's still more typical NFL than Wide open spreads and RPO.

 

[GVF]

I honestly think the move to Washington helped him. Not sure if its Kirby or Coley, but UGA's offense isn't going to put many QB's into the league. Strangely enough it has put in a few WR's.

UW system suits him better. GA's would have under Richt.

 

[Atlanta917]

I was probably editing when you replied, but I still see QB's like Eason as more successful prospects to the NFL. Full RPO type QB's still don't seem to transition as well as a pocket QB. The NFL system has migrated some, but it's still more typical NFL than Wide open spreads and RPO.

QB's like Eason are usually a safe bet. Prototypical size, great arm, and the ability to make throws to everywhere on the field. It's the ones like Lamar Jackson that are high risk/ high reward. Its interesting these changes usually go through college before making it to the NFL. Every playoff team this year utilizes some sort of RPO spread, except Clemson who is a bit more balanced. Seeing LSU transform their offense in one year is insane. Not sure anyone saw Burrow as a first round pick when the season started. LSU is gonna have to break the bank to keep Brady from moving to another school or the NFL. Probably the hottest name in coaching right now.

 

[GVF]

QB's like Eason are usually a safe bet. Prototypical size, great arm, and the ability to make throws to everywhere on the field. It's the ones like Lamar Jackson that are high risk/ high reward. Its interesting these changes usually go through college before making it to the NFL. Every playoff team this year utilizes some sort of RPO spread, except Clemson who is a bit more balanced. Seeing LSU transform their offense in one year is insane. Not sure anyone saw Burrow as a first round pick when the season started. LSU is gonna have to break the bank to keep Brady from moving to another school or the NFL. Probably the hottest name in coaching right now.

Lamar Jackson has the size, strength and arm of Eason, with more than ample mobility. There is inherent risk in him running more and getting plastered by those NFL DB's. NFL DB's and Linebackers seem to take offense to a QB that thinks he gonna run on them. I'd put Bridgewater in there with Lamar, but not as big. He's already found out about those NFL hits. Fortunately for him he can also survive as a formidable pocket QB.

LSU does take advantage of Burrow's mobility, but I don't think they are true RPO. They were kind of blended so to speak just enough to take advantage of him and keep defenses guessing. He was plenty successful in the pocket, but could make it happen if he left the pocket. I believe they have already locked Brady up for a couple more years, but they won't be able to keep him forever. The OC welcomed him in unselfishly and will learn from him what he needs to know before he gets gone. It was total mastermind to utilize a mobile pocket QB the way he did. and the way they are rolling, he can stay in the pocket if there is no need to mobilize him.

Clemson is in the same position with Trevor. He's a pocket QB with wheels for a big kid. So, they have plays to utilize that in some RPO's, or just scrambling, but remain heavily traditional. It works well for them and LSU. A lot of commonality in those two offenses with regards to the QB skills.

 

[LouderVol]

Lamar Jackson has the size, strength and arm of Eason, with more than ample mobility. There is inherent risk in him running more and getting plastered by those NFL DB's. NFL DB's and Linebackers seem to take offense to a QB that thinks he gonna run on them. I'd put Bridgewater in there with Lamar, but not as big. He's already found out about those NFL hits. Fortunately for him he can also survive as a formidable pocket QB.

LSU does take advantage of Burrow's mobility, but I don't think they are true RPO. They were kind of blended so to speak just enough to take advantage of him and keep defenses guessing. He was plenty successful in the pocket, but could make it happen if he left the pocket. I believe they have already locked Brady up for a couple more years, but they won't be able to keep him forever. The OC welcomed him in unselfishly and will learn from him what he needs to know before he gets gone. It was total mastermind to utilize a mobile pocket QB the way he did. and the way they are rolling, he can stay in the pocket if there is no need to mobilize him.

Clemson is in the same position with Trevor. He's a pocket QB with wheels for a big kid. So, they have plays to utilize that in some RPO's, or just scrambling, but remain heavily traditional. It works well for them and LSU. A lot of commonality in those two offenses with regards to the QB skills.

Eason has got 4 inches and almost 20lbs on Jackson.

 

[Atlanta917]

Lamar Jackson has the size, strength and arm of Eason, with more than ample mobility. There is inherent risk in him running more and getting plastered by those NFL DB's. NFL DB's and Linebackers seem to take offense to a QB that thinks he gonna run on them. I'd put Bridgewater in there with Lamar, but not as big. He's already found out about those NFL hits. Fortunately for him he can also survive as a formidable pocket QB.

LSU does take advantage of Burrow's mobility, but I don't think they are true RPO. They were kind of blended so to speak just enough to take advantage of him and keep defenses guessing. He was plenty successful in the pocket, but could make it happen if he left the pocket. I believe they have already locked Brady up for a couple more years, but they won't be able to keep him forever. The OC welcomed him in unselfishly and will learn from him what he needs to know before he gets gone. It was total mastermind to utilize a mobile pocket QB the way he did. and the way they are rolling, he can stay in the pocket if there is no need to mobilize him.

Clemson is in the same position with Trevor. He's a pocket QB with wheels for a big kid. So, they have plays to utilize that in some RPO's, or just scrambling, but remain heavily traditional. It works well for them and LSU. A lot of commonality in those two offenses with regards to the QB skills.

Jackson is 6'2 which is a bit on the shorter end for NFL QB's. Seems like most ppl think dual threat college QB's are system QB's and their skill set won't translate to the NFL. Whether its true or made true by the fact that NFL teams weren't running college offenses, who knows. Looking back there are a ton of heisman winning dual threat QB's that didn't make it in the NFL for various reasons.

Honestly think Burrow's greatest quality is his pocket awareness/elusiveness. There were times I thought UGA had him for a massive sack and he either ran for 19 yards or threw a 60 yard bomb and it happened repeatedly.

Haven't watched too much of Clemson, but they seem to be able to run it down team's throats or throw on them. Not sure if their offense is just that balanced or a product of beating up on bad competition. Either way, Trevor Lawrence balled out in the playoffs last year.

 

[GVF]

Eason has got 4 inches and almost 20lbs on Jackson.

Ok. I thought they were a little closer than that. But, from my angle, they look about the same height.

 

[05_never_again]

At what point in 2017 would you have pulled Fromm for Eason? Fromm did well the entire year and at no point really struggled enough to where a switch needed to be made. After that Fields was coming in and the QB room was just too full. I think Eason handled the situation admirably given how it unfolded and honestly he was able to shine more at Washington since they have discovered the forward pass. Even going with Fromm over Fields is understandable when you look at the fact that Fromm had good years in 2017 and 2018. It looks awful in hindsight, but I don't think Kirby or Chaney should be judged that negatively for it. If it happens again then absolutely, but right now they just chose to make the safe play rather than the high risk/ high reward play. Would've been like Saban riding it out with Jalen instead of Tua. Since it worked it looks great. If it didn't then the move would've been torn to shreds.

I'm all on the "pile on Kirby" train, but some of this critique of him choosing Fromm over Eason is kind of unfair and guilty of some gigantic hindsight bias. When Fromm came in, he played better in his true freshman year than Eason had played the previous year. Plus Fromm was Kirby's recruit. Critiquing Kirby for going with Fromm over Fields is the more valid critique - it's more fair and lots of people were raising that point before this season even started, without the benefit of any hindsight.

Very similar to if Saban rode it out with Hurts rather than going to Tua as you said, although it is funny - Saban never won a title with Tua as his starting QB for most of the year. He won a title with Tua as a true frosh coming off the bench in garbage time/second half of the title game, lost in the title game with Tua starting as a sophomore, and didn't even make the playoff in Tua's junior year.

Dan Wolken is a toolbag, but he did tweet one thing I agreed with this year. He said if Justin Fields doesn't fit your system, then your system sucks. I think Kirby had Fields pigeon-holed as something he is not...a running QB with an inconsistent arm. He absolutely is not that. Fields is simply what a QB needs to be these days, which is great from the pocket but mobile enough to sidestep pressure and keep plays alive. He's better from the pocket than Fromm is, plus is more mobile.

Overall, it's just such a "Georgia" thing to have their 2 most highly-recruited QBs ever end up not even playing for them for very long and going somewhere else.

 

[GVF]

Jackson is 6'2 which is a bit on the shorter end for NFL QB's. Seems like most ppl think dual threat college QB's are system QB's and their skill set won't translate to the NFL. Whether its true or made true by the fact that NFL teams weren't running college offenses, who knows. Looking back there are a ton of heisman winning dual threat QB's that didn't make it in the NFL for various reasons.

Honestly think Burrow's greatest quality is his pocket awareness/elusiveness. There were times I thought UGA had him for a massive sack and he either ran for 19 yards or threw a 60 yard bomb and it happened repeatedly.

Haven't watched too much of Clemson, but they seem to be able to run it down team's throats or throw on them. Not sure if their offense is just that balanced or a product of beating up on bad competition. Either way, Trevor Lawrence balled out in the playoffs last year.

A little of both, but Trevor is legit. Clemson catches a lot of flack for their schedule, but they don't falter much when they get into playoffs. They have 2 NC's the last 3 years, and are 10-1 in last 11 games against SEC opponents. That could be mostly against Carolina. But, they don't buckle against perceived better teams. And they don't seem to lay eggs and choke on them like GA does. If you beat them, it wasn't a gift.

Burrow also made Bama defense look middle schoolish at times. It wasn't just GA. Although he schooled that big guy in the backfield twice getting free for that bomb.

 

[05_never_again]

A little of both, but Trevor is legit. Clemson catches a lot of flack for their schedule, but they don't falter much when they get into playoffs. They have 2 NC's the last 3 years, and are 10-1 in last 11 games against SEC opponents. That could be mostly against Carolina. But, they don't buckle against perceived better teams. And they don't seem to lay eggs and choke on them like GA does. If you beat them, it wasn't a gift.

Burrow also made Bama defense look middle schoolish at times. It wasn't just GA. Although he schooled that big guy in the backfield twice getting free for that bomb.

It's so amazing how team reputations can change so quickly if you win. Up until just a few years ago, laying eggs and choking was Clemson's entire identity.

 

[GVF]

I'm all on the "pile on Kirby" train, but some of this critique of him choosing Fromm over Eason is kind of unfair and guilty of some gigantic hindsight bias. When Fromm came in, he played better in his true freshman year than Eason had played the previous year. Plus Fromm was Kirby's recruit. Critiquing Kirby for going with Fromm over Fields is the more valid critique - it's more fair and lots of people were raising that point before this season even started, without the benefit of any hindsight.

Very similar to if Saban rode it out with Hurts rather than going to Tua as you said, although it is funny - Saban never won a title with Tua as his starting QB for most of the year. He won a title with Tua as a true frosh coming off the bench in garbage time/second half of the title game, lost in the title game with Tua starting as a sophomore, and didn't even make the playoff in Tua's junior year.

Dan Wolken is a toolbag, but he did tweet one thing I agreed with this year. He said if Justin Fields doesn't fit your system, then your system sucks. I think Kirby had Fields pigeon-holed as something he is not...a running QB with an inconsistent arm. He absolutely is not that. Fields is simply what a QB needs to be these days, which is great from the pocket but mobile enough to sidestep pressure and keep plays alive. He's better from the pocket than Fromm is, plus is more mobile.

Overall, it's just such a "Georgia" thing to have their 2 most highly-recruited QBs ever end up not even playing for them for very long and going somewhere else.

Totally spot on. I understand Eason was Richt's recruit, so that is what it is. And Eason suffered no harm from it. And will ultimately have a good NFL career. I see him doing well there. But, you nailed everything else. I think Saban fumbled the Hurts thing as bad as Smart fumbled the Fields thing. IMO, Fields is far superior to Fromm in every way. And I may be in the minority, but I also consider Hurts better than Tua. But, that's just me.

 

[Atlanta917]

I'm all on the "pile on Kirby" train, but some of this critique of him choosing Fromm over Eason is kind of unfair and guilty of some gigantic hindsight bias. When Fromm came in, he played better in his true freshman year than Eason had played the previous year. Plus Fromm was Kirby's recruit. Critiquing Kirby for going with Fromm over Fields is the more valid critique - it's more fair and lots of people were raising that point before this season even started, without the benefit of any hindsight.

Very similar to if Saban rode it out with Hurts rather than going to Tua as you said, although it is funny - Saban never won a title with Tua as his starting QB for most of the year. He won a title with Tua as a true frosh coming off the bench in garbage time/second half of the title game, lost in the title game with Tua starting as a sophomore, and didn't even make the playoff in Tua's junior year.

Dan Wolken is a toolbag, but he did tweet one thing I agreed with this year. He said if Justin Fields doesn't fit your system, then your system sucks. I think Kirby had Fields pigeon-holed as something he is not...a running QB with an inconsistent arm. He absolutely is not that. Fields is simply what a QB needs to be these days, which is great from the pocket but mobile enough to sidestep pressure and keep plays alive. He's better from the pocket than Fromm is, plus is more mobile.

Overall, it's just such a "Georgia" thing to have their 2 most highly-recruited QBs ever end up not even playing for them for very long and going somewhere else.

Absolutely agree. I get why Smart/Chaney wanted to ride it out with Fromm, but man... lol it looks awful in hindsight. Also, if we're being honest Fields wouldn't have magically transformed UGA's offense this year. Fields is in a QB friendly offense ran by a seemingly elite offensive mind. Give Fields Coley and a bunch of hurt receivers and I doubt he puts up eye popping numbers. That being said, if Kirby botches another high caliber dual threat QB I think its unlikely he gets another. One time is a mistake, but do it twice and you give other teams all the ammo they need to negatively recruit.

As for the "pile on kirby" thing goes, I am a UGA fan. I think most of the criticism I've given him is fair.

 

[05_never_again]

Totally spot on. I understand Eason was Richt's recruit, so that is what it is. And Eason suffered no harm from it. And will ultimately have a good NFL career. I see him doing well there. But, you nailed everything else. I think Saban fumbled the Hurts thing as bad as Smart fumbled the Fields thing. IMO, Fields is far superior to Fromm in every way. And I may be in the minority, but I also consider Hurts better than Tua. But, that's just me.

Too much was made of the whole Hurts vs. Tua thing because the rest of their squad was so good I'm not really sure it mattered. Tua came in in a very specific, big spot and delivered some plays that Hurts, let's be honest, probably wasn't capable of making. It just so happened the spot Tua showed up in was the national title game. The following seasons (2018 and 2019) probably go the exact same way regardless of who they had at QB.

 

[GVF]

It's so amazing how team reputations can change so quickly if you win. Up until just a few years ago, laying eggs and choking was Clemson's entire identity.

Dabo cleaned that up. But, it seems to transcend coaches at UGA. I don't dislike UGA. My dad got his PhD from there and worked there for 30 years. They put food on our table. But, he also went to UT and TnTech. And with the arrival of Willie Gault (4 years apart in HS) to UT in '79, my Vol Fan card was punched. I got to see him in action up close on the track. there wasn't a kid in sight that thought he had speed that didn't idolize Gault. And he was a humble guy then for sure. It was jaw dropping to watch him sprint. They made us JV runners sit in the grass when he showed up at track practice. We weren't allowed out there with him. That privilage was earned only by the elite of the varsity runners. And it was enforced.

 

[05_never_again]

Absolutely agree. I get why Smart/Chaney wanted to ride it out with Fromm, but man... lol it looks awful in hindsight. Also, if we're being honest Fields wouldn't have magically transformed UGA's offense this year. Fields is in a QB friendly offense ran by a seemingly elite offensive mind. Give Fields Coley and a bunch of hurt receivers and I doubt he puts up eye popping numbers. That being said, if Kirby botches another high caliber dual threat QB I think its unlikely he gets another. One time is a mistake, but do it twice and you give other teams all the ammo they need to negatively recruit.

Totally agree - but that bolded part is exactly what Kirby's detractors seize on, and they aren't off base with the criticism. That's unlucky Georgia had some WRs hurt, but it isn't "unlucky" that Fields would have been playing in an offense that wouldn't be tweaked to take advantage of his skills. I think you're right that Kirby has a notion that this is the way Alabama plays offense, but he's just wrong. Time and again Saban has changed how he recruits and plays offense to fit how the game has changed. Saban hasn't had a pocket passing, game manager QB in years - his offense the past 5 years is way different than his first 5 years at Alabama.

 

[GVF]

Too much was made of the whole Hurts vs. Tua thing because the rest of their squad was so good I'm not really sure it mattered. Tua came in in a very specific, big spot and delivered some plays that Hurts, let's be honest, probably wasn't capable of making. It just so happened the spot Tua showed up in was the national title game. The following seasons (2018 and 2019) probably go the exact same way regardless of who they had at QB.

I wouldn't say Hurts wasn't capable. But, he was struggling that game for the first time. It was the right call to make the change at that point in that game. I just think Saban fumbled it benching Hurts for good afterward. He only gave him playing time to give him a chance to transfer out to a good program.

 

[Atlanta917]

Dabo cleaned that up. But, it seems to transcend coaches at UGA. I don't dislike UGA. My dad got his PhD from there and worked there for 30 years. They put food on our table. But, he also went to UT and TnTech. And with the arrival of Willie Gault (4 years apart in HS) to UT in '79, my Vol Fan card was punched. I got to see him in action up close on the track. there wasn't a kid in sight that thought he had speed that didn't idolize Gault. And he was a humble guy then for sure. It was jaw dropping to watch him sprint. They made us JV runners sit in the grass when he showed up at track practice. We weren't allowed out there with him. That privilage was earned only by the elite of the varsity runners. And it was enforced.

Just shows how difficult it is to win a title. It requires everything to go right and still a huge amount of luck. Les Miles won one with a 2 loss team. Just so happened the SECe was stronger than the SECw that year and 2 loss UGA couldn't win their division. Then Richt got knocked off by Saban in 2012 in a game that was essentially the title game. Next comes Kirby and he wins big games against Auburn and OU, but gets knocked off by Saban as well. I'd probably consider Richt and Smart better coaches than Chizik, yet Chizik won a title by lucking into Cam Newton. It'll be interesting to see who fills the void once Saban leaves. Pruitt, Smart, and Orgeron are all elite recruiters with defensive specialty, so it probably comes down to which one gets the right OC first.

 

[GVF]

Totally agree - but that bolded part is exactly what Kirby's detractors seize on, and they aren't off base with the criticism. That's unlucky Georgia had some WRs hurt, but it isn't "unlucky" that Fields would have been playing in an offense that wouldn't be tweaked to take advantage of his skills. I think you're right that Kirby has a notion that this is the way Alabama plays offense, but he's just wrong. Time and again Saban has changed how he recruits and plays offense to fit how the game has changed. Saban hasn't had a pocket passing, game manager QB in years - his offense the past 5 years is way different than his first 5 years at Alabama.

That is very true. Usually, coaches his age have a system. And that's it. Saban will change to fit what he has, or needs to have. Up until recent years they've never needed more than a pocket game manager to dominate. LSU was the same. Saban adjusted and stayed on top.

 

[GVF]

Just shows how difficult it is to win a title. It requires everything to go right and still a huge amount of luck. Les Miles won one with a 2 loss team. Just so happened the SECe was stronger than the SECw that year and 2 loss UGA couldn't win their division. Then Richt got knocked off by Saban in 2012 in a game that was essentially the title game. Next comes Kirby and he wins big games against Auburn and OU, but gets knocked off by Saban as well. I'd probably consider Richt and Smart better coaches than Chizik, yet Chizik won a title by lucking into Cam Newton. It'll be interesting to see who fills the void once Saban leaves. Pruitt, Smart, and Orgeron are all elite recruiters with defensive specialty, so it probably comes down to which one gets the right OC first.

Big O is already there. If can keep it going. Ultimately, I think Pruitt and Mullen will fill that void in the East to battle LSU. But, that all hinges on who LSU follows up with at QB. If they don't have a blue chip in there, Saban will be right back. He so much as knows he fell short this year, and he won't be conceding next year anytime soon. Especially if he fixes that D this off season.

 

[05_never_again]

Just shows how difficult it is to win a title. It requires everything to go right and still a huge amount of luck. Les Miles won one with a 2 loss team. Just so happened the SECe was stronger than the SECw that year and 2 loss UGA couldn't win their division. Then Richt got knocked off by Saban in 2012 in a game that was essentially the title game. Next comes Kirby and he wins big games against Auburn and OU, but gets knocked off by Saban as well. I'd probably consider Richt and Smart better coaches than Chizik, yet Chizik won a title by lucking into Cam Newton. It'll be interesting to see who fills the void once Saban leaves. Pruitt, Smart, and Orgeron are all elite recruiters with defensive specialty, so it probably comes down to which one gets the right OC first.

It is amazing though just how many chances Georgia has had and it hasn't fallen for them, yet there are other teams out there who have had far less chances but have cashed in when they do get their chance. Since their last title, Georgia has always had good (sometimes really good) but not what I'd call elite coaching. It seems like there was always at least one coach in the SEC who was better than who they had at any given time. Fulmer, then Urban, then Saban. Fulmer regressed, but Urban filled the void. Then Urban left the conference, but Saban filled the void. But even in a year where Fulmer, Urban, or Saban didn't win it all, it was some other team, not Georgia, who was better and filled the void. Like LSU this year.

When a streak like that transcends entire administrations, coaches, and players, there really isn't much else to say. There's no common denominator other than the logo on the helmet. Cursed I guess. Kind of like the Cleveland Browns struggles, except Georgia has obviously had more success than the Browns.

 

[GVF]

Just shows how difficult it is to win a title. It requires everything to go right and still a huge amount of luck. Les Miles won one with a 2 loss team. Just so happened the SECe was stronger than the SECw that year and 2 loss UGA couldn't win their division. Then Richt got knocked off by Saban in 2012 in a game that was essentially the title game. Next comes Kirby and he wins big games against Auburn and OU, but gets knocked off by Saban as well. I'd probably consider Richt and Smart better coaches than Chizik, yet Chizik won a title by lucking into Cam Newton. It'll be interesting to see who fills the void once Saban leaves. Pruitt, Smart, and Orgeron are all elite recruiters with defensive specialty, so it probably comes down to which one gets the right OC first.

I thought highly of Richt. Some may not. But, watching things pan out, they'd have been better served to ride him out until he decided to hang it up. He would have left on his own the following year or two. He wasn't one to hang on when it was apparent he was done. Like he did at Miami. He bailed. But, respect why he did, even though the timing looked bad. He had other interests and was ready to hang it up.

 

[Atlanta917]

Big O is already there. If can keep it going. Ultimately, I think Pruitt and Mullen will fill that void in the East to battle LSU. But, that all hinges on who LSU follows up with at QB. If they don't have a blue chip in there, Saban will be right back. He so much as knows he fell short this year, and he won't be conceding next year anytime soon. Especially if he fixes that D this off season.

If O can keep Brady they’ll have no issues grabbing elite QB’s. Smart is only an OC away with his defense and recruiting. Mullen has the opposite issue and needs an elite recruiting DC. I don’t see Grantham as a championship winning DC. Their permanent opponent is LSU which could also lead to issues. Pruitt has the same strengths as Smart, so he’s in the same position imo. I guess Fisher should also be considered as well. Just not sure A&M is a threat.

 

[05_never_again]

I thought highly of Richt. Some may not. But, watching things pan out, they'd have been better served to ride him out until he decided to hang it up. He would have left on his own the following year or two. He wasn't one to hang on when it was apparent he was done. Like he did at Miami. He bailed. But, respect why he did, even though the timing looked bad. He had other interests and was ready to hang it up.

Richt had a heart attack just a few months ago - I wonder if his decision to hang it up last year was related in some way to concerns about his health. Like not due to some specific health problem, but just general concerns about stress, etc. Richt has always seemed to be a "there are more important things than football" kind of guy anyway, which is really rare in his profession. Bob Stoops claims that's why he stepped away.

 

[Atlanta917]

It is amazing though just how many chances Georgia has had and it hasn't fallen for them, yet there are other teams out there who have had far less chances but have cashed in when they do get their chance. Since their last title, Georgia has always had good (sometimes really good) but not what I'd call elite coaching. It seems like there was always at least one coach in the SEC who was better than who they had at any given time. Fulmer, then Urban, then Saban. Fulmer regressed, but Urban filled the void. Then Urban left the conference, but Saban filled the void. But even in a year where Fulmer, Urban, or Saban didn't win it all, it was some other team, not Georgia, who was better and filled the void. Like LSU this year.

When a streak like that transcends entire administrations, coaches, and players, there really isn't much else to say. There's no common denominator other than the logo on the helmet. Cursed I guess. Kind of like the Cleveland Browns struggles, except Georgia has obviously had more success than the Browns.

Not like UGA is a historically dominant school though. Auburn went 60 years between championships and they’re basically the same school as UGA in terms of tradition or historical relevancy. Saban’s unprecedented run cost multiple schools and coaches.

 

[Atlanta917]

I thought highly of Richt. Some may not. But, watching things pan out, they'd have been better served to ride him out until he decided to hang it up. He would have left on his own the following year or two. He wasn't one to hang on when it was apparent he was done. Like he did at Miami. He bailed. But, respect why he did, even though the timing looked bad. He had other interests and was ready to hang it up.

Richt has always been a great person. Paid his assistant coaches when UGA wouldn’t, helped Paul Oliver’s family and set up a players network after he took his own life, put his own money into UGA’s and Miami’s indoor practice facility, etc. Only thing that kept him from winning a title is Saban.