Fulmer debate extravaganza (merged)

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#376
Fulmer needs to start winning big and getting to BCS bowls. I'm tired of going to these minor bowls in Atlanta, Tampa and Orlando.
 
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VolsRule said:
Fulmer needs to start winning big and getting to BCS bowls. I'm tired of going to these minor bowls in Atlanta, Tampa and Orlando.
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Just like the NCAA putting us in the Charlotte region with UNC, Fulmer is concerned for the fans and doesn't want us to travel too far.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
the staff deserves its share of the blame
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yes, yes they do....but as bad as they were, that year had more to do with players not making plays.

Rasputin_Vol said:
Now you do have a point about the dropped balls and such (and don't even get me started on Chris Hannon). But still, no excuse for Ainge not to have put a miles worth of distance between himself and spaghetti armed RC.
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i won't disagree with that, athletically, Ainge had it over him. but for some reason, the locker room, and one of the coaches who shall remain nameless :birgits_giggle:, really took to RC. it was a mess before it got started. Hindsight being what it is, EA should have just gotten it, stuck with it, and taken his lumps. credit RC with some gutsy performances though, just not good enough to make a difference in winning a game.
 
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jakez4ut said:
yes, yes they do....but as bad as they were, that year had more to do with players not making plays.

i won't disagree with that, athletically, Ainge had it over him. but for some reason, the locker room, and one of the coaches who shall remain nameless :birgits_giggle:, really took to RC. it was a mess before it got started. Hindsight being what it is, EA should have just gotten it, stuck with it, and taken his lumps. credit RC with some gutsy performances though, just not good enough to make a difference in winning a game.
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Heck, he pulled us out of the fire in Baton Rouge.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Now you do have a point about the dropped balls and such (and don't even get me started on Chris Hannon). But still, no excuse for Ainge not to have put a miles worth of distance between himself and spaghetti armed RC.
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If you picked the most disappointing year, 2005 was it. And the most disappointing player in any position, it had to be EA. He knew that.

I remember joking with friends about all those #10 jerseys hanging in the mall at half price that holiday season. While he never played up to his expectations, what Cut did with him psychologically was a miracle.

Most of us suppressed those 05 memories (coping mechanism), but not you Ras. Front and center... the whole time. Can't believe it ended with the pick 6 while you were on the 10 at the SECCG.

It's over, man! The O will have a whole new look in 2008.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Heck, he pulled us out of the fire in Baton Rouge.
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see gutsy performances ref. right before. he coudln't rally against Vandy or SC though....ah, man...that season just sucked.

speak of it no more.:thumbsup:
 
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jakez4ut said:
yes, yes they do....but as bad as they were, that year had more to do with players not making plays.

i won't disagree with that, athletically, Ainge had it over him. but for some reason, the locker room, and one of the coaches who shall remain nameless :birgits_giggle:, really took to RC. it was a mess before it got started. Hindsight being what it is, EA should have just gotten it, stuck with it, and taken his lumps. credit RC with some gutsy performances though, just not good enough to make a difference in winning a game.
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Spot on, Jake. RS.
 
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utmba93 said:
If you picked the most disappointing year, 2005 was it. And the most disappointing player in any position, it had to be EA. He knew that.

I remember joking with friends about all those #10 jerseys hanging in the mall at half price that holiday season. While he never played up to his expectations, what Cut did with him psychologically was a miracle.

Most of us suppressed those 05 memories (coping mechanism), but not you Ras. Front and center... the whole time. Can't believe it ended with the pick 6 while you were on the 10 at the SECCG.

It's over, man! The O will have a whole new look in 2008.
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Meh... we'll see. Different chef, similar ingredients. Clawson may be a new face, but we know he's not going to deviate too far from Fulmer/Cutcliffe's philosophy... else he wouldn't have gotten interviewed.

Cuttcliffe's idea of innovation was the no huddle last year. This year, we are running the West Coast offense. :ermm: Next thing you know, we may implement the flying wedge.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Meh... we'll see. Different chef, similar ingredients. Clawson may be a new face, but we know he's not going to deviate too far from Fulmer/Cutcliffe's philosophy... else he wouldn't have gotten interviewed.

Cuttcliffe's idea of innovation was the no huddle last year. This year, we are running the West Coast offense. :ermm: Next thing you know, we may implement the flying wedge.
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i dont think this is entirely fair....in regards to clawson...i'd at least like to see them live and in person before i rush to judgement, and let's not forget, barring a total philosophical repent, the offense doesn't have to look all that much different to the naked eye to be more effective.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Meh... we'll see. Different chef, similar ingredients. Clawson may be a new face, but we know he's not going to deviate too far from Fulmer/Cutcliffe's philosophy... else he wouldn't have gotten interviewed.

Cuttcliffe's idea of innovation was the no huddle last year. This year, we are running the West Coast offense. :ermm: Next thing you know, we may implement the flying wedge.
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Single wing? Didn't you say you were from So Pitt?
 
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jakez4ut said:
i dont think this is entirely fair....in regards to clawson...i'd at least like to see them live and in person before i rush to judgement, and let's not forget, barring a total philosophical repent, the offense doesn't have to look all that much different to the naked eye to be more effective.
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Fair enough... I'm just a cynic right now. I hope everything Clawson says shows up on the field.
 
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jakez4ut said:
:thumbsup:..........but many that spent the entire year wanting RS fired, say that now with the benefit of hindsight.
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Indeed they do... but I'm not in that crowd. I never had a bloodlust for Sanders like many others did.

The only crawfishing I have done recently is becoming to greater appreciate Casey Clausen after seeing 4 years of Ainge.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Indeed they do... but I'm not in that crowd. I never had a bloodlust for Sanders like many others did.

The only crawfishing I have done recently is becoming to greater appreciate Casey Clausen after seeing 4 years of Ainge.
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With CC, at least you kinda knew what you had.
 
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utmba93 said:
Sudden change of personality?
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I'm a cynic when it comes to Clawson when it comes to believing what he says vs what he ends up doing. I'm no longer a Fulmer cynic. I already know I can't believe anything that comes out of his mouth.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I'm a cynic when it comes to Clawson when it comes to believing what he says vs what he ends up doing. I'm no longer a Fulmer cynic. I already know I can't believe anything that comes out of his mouth.
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:eek:lol::eek:lol:
On that note... have good evening gentelmen!:hi:
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Fair enough... I'm just a cynic right now. I hope everything Clawson says shows up on the field.
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there's certainly reason to be just that....can't argue with you there.

Rasputin_Vol said:
Indeed they do... but I'm not in that crowd. I never had a bloodlust for Sanders like many others did.

The only crawfishing I have done recently is becoming to greater appreciate Casey Clausen after seeing 4 years of Ainge.
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wasn't implying otherwise.

wait, you didn't like Ainge? huh, news to me....:)
 
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utmba93 said:
:eek:lol::eek:lol:
On that note... have good evening gentelmen!:hi:
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Seriously, how many "working like heck/looking at the tape/getting back to basic" speeches can you listen to before you realize you can't take anything he says seriously?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Seriously, how many "working like heck/looking at the tape/getting back to basic" speeches can you listen to before you realize you can't take anything he says seriously?
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It's coachspeak; not iambic pentameter. Everybody knows what it is. He's not trying to trick you.
 
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