Fulmer Picking Up Steam/Schools looking at Fulmer?(merged)

#431
#431
hatvol96 said:
It would make perfect sense. Fulmer turned Tennessee into the Minnesota of the SEC. Now, he can go coach the original.
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As always, acidic...but as usual, on target.

Hey hat...I gotta go 3 out of 6 now. I like your odds, but I still believe in Dooley, and the Vols.

(spare me the reference to the skipper of the Titanic, just this once, please)

Fulmer knows he is not coming back to UT as the HFC. Thus, if he does come back to UT, it will be as AD. Does he harbor that hope? Who knows?

Interesting that his name never appears as a serious candidate for any of the jobs that have popped up over the past couple of seasons. While the voice of both Fulmerites and anti-Fulmerites resonates through this board, it is the silence of those AD's who could have expressed an interest in having Philip Fulmer as their Head Football Coach that commands the most attention.

Has Fulmer kept himself off the market, or has the market shunned Philip Fulmer?

Who knows?

Go Vols.
 
#432
#432
GreyWolf1129 said:
As always, acidic...but as usual, on target.

Hey hat...I gotta go 3 out of 6 now. I like your odds, but I still believe in Dooley, and the Vols.

(spare me the reference to the skipper of the Titanic, just this once, please)

Fulmer knows he is not coming back to UT as the HFC. Thus, if he does come back to UT, it will be as AD. Does he harbor that hope? Who knows?

Interesting that his name never appears as a serious candidate for any of the jobs that have popped up over the past couple of seasons. While the voice of both Fulmerites and anti-Fulmerites resonates through this board, it is the silence of those AD's who could have expressed an interest in having Philip Fulmer as their Head Football Coach that commands the most attention.

Has Fulmer kept himself off the market, or has the market shunned Philip Fulmer?
Who knows?

Go Vols.
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Go with your gut on this one Wolf. You would be correct.
 
#434
#434
GreyWolf1129 said:
As always, acidic...but as usual, on target.

Hey hat...I gotta go 3 out of 6 now. I like your odds, but I still believe in Dooley, and the Vols.

(spare me the reference to the skipper of the Titanic, just this once, please)

Fulmer knows he is not coming back to UT as the HFC. Thus, if he does come back to UT, it will be as AD. Does he harbor that hope? Who knows?

Interesting that his name never appears as a serious candidate for any of the jobs that have popped up over the past couple of seasons. While the voice of both Fulmerites and anti-Fulmerites resonates through this board, it is the silence of those AD's who could have expressed an interest in having Philip Fulmer as their Head Football Coach that commands the most attention.

Has Fulmer kept himself off the market, or has the market shunned Philip Fulmer?

Who knows?

Go Vols.
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I'll be more than glad to scrap the bet if you like. It was made simply to make a point about how unrealistic the optimism many in our fanbase harbored was.
 
#437
#437
iuvol2012 said:
Lynch should've been canned two years ago. Fulmer looks like Vince Lombardi compared to Lynch.
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True, but there's a part of me that says that's what IU deserves. The shameful way they treated Bill Mallory at the end of his tenure merits nothing but scorn from me.
 
#439
#439
hatvol96 said:
I'll be more than glad to scrap the bet if you like. It was made simply to make a point about how unrealistic the optimism many in our fanbase harbored was.
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Let's leave it in place for now. You have the advantage.

Much like you, I have been known to dig in my heels and say "screw the odds" when I believed I was right. This was...and maybe still is...one of those times. I'm not in your league when it comes to intellect, but a more rabid Vol fan you will not find.

Should I win, the only way you're leaving VN is by choice. I will, mind you, require you to grovel appropriately before the VN faithful...acknowledge that I have bested you in a matter of intellect and foresight...and name your next dog after me. Fair is fair, and to the winner go the spoils.

OTOH, should you win, you will dictate the terms, including the original terms of our wager.

Burning a candle for Dooley even as we speak.

Nice sparring with you again. You finally get tired of the lightweights?

Go Vols.
 
#443
#443
Lexvol said:
If Vol fans allow it then as a fanbase we deserve all of the crap that would accompany such a move.
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Exactly. Here is how I envision the first five minutes of Fulmer as UT's AD (also the reason why it won't happen)

(Fulmer walks into office)

"Derek, you're fired. Pack up your office and get out."

(Fulmer walks into press conference)

"I would like to announce the appointment of Tennessee's 23rd football coach...Me."
 
#444
#444
vol_in_il said:
Fulmer's waiting on Hambone's job, and 2-6, and 0-5 is playing into his hand
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Nope, but Pearl and the baseball program are.

Dooley will get three years, provided he breaks even next year.

But I'm thinking the big money is looking at how long it took Hamilton to figure out Fulmer was past his prime; the 6 million Hamilton cost UT by extending Fulmer's contract; the fact that Pearl can't remember NCAA rules, or who he's married to; Lane Kiffin; and a baseball program that has all but disappeared from the national radar...and has decided that enough is enough.

If the NCAA lands on UT with both feet, and they just might...Mike Hamilton is like a hanging curve ball to Pujols. Gone.

If not, I'll be surprised if he's still here for New Year's Day in 2012.

Go Vols.
 
#445
#445
GreyWolf1129 said:
Nope, but Pearl and the baseball program are.

Dooley will get three years, provided he breaks even next year.

But I'm thinking the big money is looking at how long it took Hamilton to figure out Fulmer was past his prime; the 6 million Hamilton cost UT by extending Fulmer's contract; the fact that Pearl can't remember NCAA rules, or who he's married to; Lane Kiffin; and a baseball program that has all but disappeared from the national radar...and has decided that enough is enough.

If the NCAA lands on UT with both feet, and they just might...Mike Hamilton is like a hanging curve ball to Pujols. Gone.

If not, I'll be surprised if he's still here for New Year's Day in 2012.

Go Vols.
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Before the Pearl issues, Hamilton's job was completely dependent on Dooley's performance. If Pearl has more skeletons in the closet, Hamilton will be lucky to see Dooley's second year.
 
#446
#446
Lexvol said:
Before the Pearl issues, Hamilton's job was completely dependent on Dooley's performance. If Pearl has more skeletons in the closet, Hamilton will be lucky to see Dooley's second year.
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Agreed, and I left this part out of my last post. You already said most of it: Hamilton's survival is probably dependent on (a) Pearl surviving the NCAA prostate exam; (b) UT surviving the Kiffin - Orgeron recruiting method; and (c) Dooley winning at least 7 next year.

Can Hamilton go 3 for 3? Given his past performance, I'm thinking probably not.

Go Vols.
 
#447
#447
SGMVols said:
If he really loved UT, he would have resigned after the 2005 disaster.

He loved himself more than anything.
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Yes. It's that easy to walk away from something you love to do and a place that you love more than anything.

Good logic.

Not to mention, he went on to win the East again, and probably would have had 2 more SEC EAst titles if it wasn't for injuries in 06.

I agree with everyone that it was beyond his time to go..but to say he had nothing left is really foolish, IMO. He still had some success here after the 05 disaster.

Would we be in a better place right now if he had left before 08? Most likely. Do I fault him for not leaving? Absolutely not. You don't just walk away from something you love as much as he did UT.
 
#448
#448
Two things: First, the boosters who signed off on Fulmer's execution aren't going to bring him back to run the entire show. You don't fire a department head, then make him CEO two years later. Next, the 'AA is going to find nothing actionable against the football program.
 
#449
#449
Titans4Vols said:
Yes. It's that easy to walk away from something you love to do and a place that you love more than anything.

Good logic.

Not to mention, he went on to win the East again, and probably would have had 2 more SEC EAst titles if it wasn't for injuries in 06.

I agree with everyone that it was beyond his time to go..but to say he had nothing left is really foolish, IMO. He still had some success here after the 05 disaster.

Would we be in a better place right now if he had left before 08? Most likely. Do I fault him for not leaving? Absolutely not. You don't just walk away from something you love as much as he did UT.
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He had nothing left. He tried to interview Tom Jurich...didn't work out so well. If he was worth a darn, he wouldn't be nosing around the program he loved so much.
 
#450
#450
Titans4Vols said:
Yes. It's that easy to walk away from something you love to do and a place that you love more than anything.

Good logic.

Not to mention, he went on to win the East again, and probably would have had 2 more SEC EAst titles if it wasn't for injuries in 06.

I agree with everyone that it was beyond his time to go..but to say he had nothing left is really foolish, IMO. He still had some success here after the 05 disaster.

Would we be in a better place right now if he had left before 08? Most likely. Do I fault him for not leaving? Absolutely not. You don't just walk away from something you love as much as he did UT.
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Agreed. No one would just walk away like that. Citing that he didn't resign after 2005 as evidence that he cared more about himself than UT is way off base. He thought he could get UT back to where it was. That's why he stayed.
 
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