‘23 GA CB Branden Strozier (Clemson commit)

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sjt18 said:
Still don't think you can point to anything he did and especially at the college level that earned a 5* rating.
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Not every 5 star is gonna be an all American and first round draft pick just like not every 2 star is gonna ride the pine for 4 years. I always thought Morley was a really good player. He played at a high level for us just couldn’t stay out of trouble.
 
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reVOLution33 said:
Why are Alabama, Georgia, LSU, OSU and others pushing hard for them? 🤔

This is my point. Because there are alot better players ahead of them.

Yes maybe by the end some will push for these 2 after they miss out of several others. But they aren't as of now.

I'm not saying they won't be good at some point but as of right now neither have even been offered by the teams I mentioned so why are these the top of our board?
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Part of it could be trying to get realistic recruits. Pruitt made the mistake of going too hard after guys he would never get. If there’s a top CB in Texas, LA, FL, GA or AL he’s likely not coming here
 
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Rocky Volboa said:
Not every 5 star is gonna be an all American and first round draft pick just like not every 2 star is gonna ride the pine for 4 years. I always thought Morley was a really good player. He played at a high level for us just couldn’t stay out of trouble.
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No. That's the thing. The recruiting sites aren't as ironclad accurate as many people here seem to think. They are pretty accurate with the guys they choose to give 4/5* to. But they miss A LOT of guys who should receive 4/5*... by design. If they truly tried to give 4/5* to every player who deserved it... they'd miss so much that they wouldn't be able to sell their product. As it is, they're right about 60% of the time on the guys they rate 5* and about 20-25% of the time on the guys they rate 4*. If they were as accurate as some believe then every 4/5* guy minus those who get injured would be drafted and 2/3* players... wouldn't.

They have a place and a purpose. By and large, the higher your average rating or "star average" is... the more talent that class is likely to have. Their accuracy is general more than specific.
 
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T2P_Priceless said:
Part of it could be trying to get realistic recruits. Pruitt made the mistake of going too hard after guys he would never get. If there’s a top CB in Texas, LA, FL, GA or AL he’s likely not coming here
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There's an element of that. There has to be. You can't spend your time and resources chasing unrealistic recruits.

However, the earlier poster suggested that this means the players UT does seem to be favoring aren't on the same level talent wise. I think there is a misconception about the "uniqueness" of the guys with 4/5*. There are A LOT of guys with talent out there.... and a good chunk of them will never wear a 4* or 5* label.
 
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sjt18 said:
Emmanuel Moseley is the CLASSIC example of the kind of player that will be found by the coach who turns UT around. His offers out of HS were UT... Charlotte, ECU, NC A&T. UK and NCSU recruited him according to 247 but didn't offer him. Bama nor any other top SEC program... or middling SEC program... or bottom tier SEC program wanted him. No ACC program wanted him.

Now a pretty decent DB in the NFL.
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I remember BreakingBoy lol’ng when I mentioned the POSSIBILITY of him playing in the NFL. 😏
 
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sjt18 said:
There's an element of that. There has to be. You can't spend your time and resources chasing unrealistic recruits.

However, the earlier poster suggested that this means the players UT does seem to be favoring aren't on the same level talent wise. I think there is a misconception about the "uniqueness" of the guys with 4/5*. There are A LOT of guys with talent out there.... and a good chunk of them will never wear a 4* or 5* label.
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This argument is as old as Moses. Yes, some players play above or below their rating. What can’t be disputed is the teams with the higher overall recruiting ratings win
 
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Christian Conyer is back on page 5 with the 2021 recruiting class, but yeah he definitely top 2 on our board…
 
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T2P_Priceless said:
This argument is as old as Moses. Yes, some players play above or below their rating. What can’t be disputed is the teams with the higher overall recruiting ratings win
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Well, yes. It can. Your argument is that those teams get higher rated players. That somehow the journalists who work for those sites find and grade talent then coaches come along and compete for it. The truth is that those programs prove they can consistently get talented players. The recruiting sites recognize their success in doing so and rate recruits pursued by those programs higher.
 
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sjt18 said:
Well, yes. It can. Your argument is that those teams get higher rated players. That somehow the journalists who work for those sites find and grade talent then coaches come along and compete for it. The truth is that those programs prove they can consistently get talented players. The recruiting sites recognize their success in doing so and rate recruits pursued by those programs higher.
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Yes, you’re right. And all the teams with sustained success are recruiting each other for the same players. I’m not crapping on our evaluations at all. We have to become one of those teams. If we become a trend setter in identifying talent than fantastic
 
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T2P_Priceless said:
Yes, you’re right. And all the teams with sustained success are recruiting each other for the same players. I’m not crapping on our evaluations at all. We have to become one of those teams. If we become a trend setter in identifying talent than fantastic
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I believe strongly that's how it will be done when UT truly gets turned around. It won't be a guy who starts taking guys Saban makes a priority but a guy who finds guys that Saban overlooked who were just as good.
 
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sjt18 said:
Emmanuel Moseley is the CLASSIC example of the kind of player that will be found by the coach who turns UT around. His offers out of HS were UT... Charlotte, ECU, NC A&T. UK and NCSU recruited him according to 247 but didn't offer him. Bama nor any other top SEC program... or middling SEC program... or bottom tier SEC program wanted him. No ACC program wanted him.

Now a pretty decent DB in the NFL.
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So what you're telling me is bring Butch back!

Hell yeah 🤘🏻🤘🏻
 
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reVOLution33 said:
How are these the "two clear cut defensive backs at the top of the board?"

I'm not saying they are bad but how are there not some 5 stars or high 4 stars on the board before these 2. One of which isn't ranked and the other is a low 4 star composite guy.

I know many will say "rankings don't matter" but they do. You don't see the echelon with these 2 at the top of there board.
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Possible they have a good idea where the kids ahead of these two are going. Idk just guessing here. Ratings matter for sure but idk how evaluations have been effected by Covid; if either kid gets a big offer they will likely be reevaluated and bumped up; ratings are adjusted a lot based on offers and where the kid is going.
 
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Awarded four-star status based on the performances so far from this spring.
Many receivers don't like tall and long defensive backs, so they won't like Strozier. At 6-foot-2 and 175 pounds, Strozier does a great job using that length to his advantage. He jams receivers at the line of scrimmage and he's able to reach in front of receivers to keep passes out of their hands. Strozier has the footwork and overall speed to keep receivers in front of him and stay within arm's length. It will be interesting to see him throughout the rest of the spring because he could be putting together a resume that will warrant him to be ranked fairly high.
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-Rivals
 
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