'17 GA DT Aubrey Solomon (NCAA IS A FAIR ORGANIZATION)

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Devo182 said:
I think I originally read your post as saying JJ got a medical redshirt 🤣 sorry, was at a bar and did not bring my full DAT focus to the conversation.

Still not sure what you were trying to say. Prior to the 4-game rule he would have probably just sat out the whole season.

The first half/second half of the season just doesn't matter anymore at all in football, just in other sports.
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I’m saying that since he played past the 50% mark in the season he has no shot of ever getting a 6th year if he’s hurt again

The old redshirt rules would apply.

Unless I have misread I think some here are saying he could
 
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OnOne said:
Do you know what’s happening with Aubrey🤔
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Nah I have no info on that I’m not an insider lol... I’m just close with one of the new Tennessee players and we face time about once a week. He fills me in on the progress the team is making and I give him some words of encouragement that’s all...
 
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BoroVol93 said:
Nah I have no info on that I’m not an insider lol... I’m just close with one of the new Tennessee players and we face time about once a week. He fills me in on the progress the team is making and I give him some words of encouragement that’s all...
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Hopefully he shares some good news that you can pass along soon also
 
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BoroVol93 said:
Nah I have no info on that I’m not an insider lol... I’m just close with one of the new Tennessee players and we face time about once a week. He fills me in on the progress the team is making and I give him some words of encouragement that’s all...
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Is Bryan Aiken a d line guy or LB? I know he was D line in HS. Made Reggie Grimes look pretty good
 
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chargervol said:
Hopefully he shares some good news that you can pass along soon also
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It’s been mostly great news until this point... said the team is full of dogs who are really competing... told me that JG and the receivers have been looking really good all offseason TIFWIW... believes Elijah Simmons is a beast...
 
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BruinVol said:
I’m saying that since he played past the 50% mark in the season he has no shot of ever getting a 6th year if he’s hurt again
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So if he is injured and can't play the next 4 seasons, he can't apply and get approved for a 6th season of eligiblility waiver? Because he played after the 50% mark for a single season? Where are you coming up with this from?

What does playing after 50% of the season even have to do with a 5th year rule waiver? The only place I've ever seen it mentioned is in the Medical Hardship Waiver area, which again, means nothing to football any longer. Certainly not to JJP. He took a standard redshirt.
 
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Devo182 said:
So if he is injured and can't play the next 4 seasons, he can't apply for a 6th season of eligiblility waiver? Because he played after the 50% mark for a single season? Where are you coming up with this from?
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No he can’t get a 6th year now because last year doesn’t fit the criteria due to playing in the second half of the season


To clarify the old medical redshirt rule didn’t go away. It’s still in play. The new red shirt rule just relaxed regulations on a regular redshirt. If JJ hadn’t played at all last year without the new 4 game rule he still couldn’t have gotten a 6th year without using an injury as the reason he didn’t play
 
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BruinVol said:
No he can’t get a 6th year now because last year doesn’t fit the criteria due to playing in the second half of the season
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Where under 12.8.1.7.1 does it mention this? Can you cite your bylaw where it has to do with playing after 50% of a season? Sounds like you're talking hardship waivers, which is different. Sounds like you are confusing the 2.
 
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BruinVol said:
To clarify the old medical redshirt rule didn’t go away. It’s still in play. The new red shirt rule just relaxed regulations on a regular redshirt. If JJ hadn’t played at all last year without the new 4 game rule he still couldn’t have gotten a 6th year without using an injury as the reason he didn’t play
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There is only 1 redshirt allowed. Your so called "medical redshirt" is no longer used in football. Just forget about it.

If JJ hadn't played at all last year, it changes nothing. He'd still need 1 full year of injury, illness, or other factor outside his control causing him to miss a season, to get a 6th year of eligibility approved under the new rule passed last year (12.8.1.7.1 (a)). Assuming the staff chose the redshirt route for him (not sure how this is determined).
 
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Devo182 said:
There is only 1 redshirt allowed. Your so called "medical redshirt" is no longer used in football. Just forget about it.
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There are still medical redshirts it’s just much more rare that they come into play but any player that played 4 games last year but had an injury before the half way mark could get a 6th year if it happens again in their 5 year clock
 
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The wording is irrelevant. Call it a medical hardship, call it a medical redshirt or call it medical waivers but a player has to have two of those to get a 6 year

Means playing 4 or less games and not playing past the half way point in BOTH years lost to injury
 
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BruinVol said:
There are still medical redshirts it’s just much more rare that they come into play but any player that played 4 games last year but had an injury before the half way mark could get a 6th year if it happens again in their 5 year clock
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That is not a "medical redshirt" aka medical hardship waiver. See, those only gain you an extra season to play, they cannot grant you additional eligibility. They are separate. That is the 5 year rule waiver. You have confused the two as many do.
 
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Devo182 said:
That is not a "medical redshirt" aka medical hardship waiver. See, those only gain you an extra season to play, they cannot grant you additional eligibility. They are separate. That is the 5 year rule waiver. You have confused the two as many do.
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See my post above yours
 
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BruinVol said:
Means playing 4 or less games and not playing past the half way point in BOTH years lost to injury
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Seasons lost to injury is not a required factor. There are many others: refer to 12.8.1.7.1.1.

You can also take a completely regular freshman redshirt, along with 1 other lost season and also be eligible for a 6th year.

Remember, one can only take 1 redshirt. You seem to believe a regular redshirt and a mefical redshirt can both be taken, which is not true. Only 1 could ever be taken and now it is just a regular one.
 
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Devo182 said:
Seasons lost to injury is not a required factor. There are many others: refer to 12.8.1.7.1.1.

You can also take a completely regular freshman redshirt, along with 1 other lost season and also be eligible for a 6th year.

Remember, one can only take 1 redshirt. You seem to believe a regular redshirt and a mefical redshirt can both be taken, which is not true. Only 1 could ever be taken and now it is just a regular one.
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You are making this too hard.

The only way to get a 6th year is for their to be two seasons lost to injury or some other off the field issue. Pregnancy, mental health or even drug addiction could be used


So to clarify if JJ has one year lost to injury coming up he never gets it back. But yea if he had a second year lost to injury or other off the field issue he could get a 6th year. If that makes any sense
 
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BruinVol said:
You are making this too hard.

The only way to get a 6th year is for their to be two seasons lost to injury or some other off the field issue. Pregnancy, mental health or even drug addiction could be used


So to clarify if JJ has one year lost to injury coming up he never gets it back. But yea if he had a second year lost to injury or other off the field issue he could get a 6th year. If that makes any sense
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You originally said: "I’m saying that since he played past the 50% mark in the season he has no shot of ever getting a 6th year if he’s hurt again" which simply isn't true and makes zero sense. You're saying he could be injured the next 4 straight seasons and not get approved for a waiver. Ludricous.

But again, since he was redshirted this season as a freshman (assuming it was a staff decision), then it appears this new rule paves the way for a 6th year of eligibility if he misses 1 more year in the future that is out of his control (12.8.1.7.1 (a)). Notice how NONE of this has anything to do with a medical hardship waiver, nor any supposed 50% of the season qualifications. You're bringing total non-sequiturs into this discussion of 5 year rule waivers. They are SEPARATE.
 
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Devo182 said:
You originally said: "I’m saying that since he played past the 50% mark in the season he has no shot of ever getting a 6th year if he’s hurt again" which simply isn't true and makes zero sense. You're saying he could be injured the next 4 straight seasons and not get approved for a waiver. Ludricous.

But again, since he was redshirted this season as a freshman (assuming it was a staff decision), then it appears this new rule paves the way for a 6th year of eligibility if he misses 1 more year in the future that is out of his control (12.8.1.7.1 (a)). Notice how NONE of this has anything to do with a medical hardship waiver, nor any supposed 50% of the season qualifications. You're bringing total non-sequiturs into this discussion of 5 year rule waivers. They are SEPARATE.
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I really think we are saying the same thing.

Yes when I said JJ couldn’t get a 6th year in my OP was technically wrong. I think my last post clarified but I’ll try it again

If JJ, or any other player that played 4 games and redshirted under the new rule, gets hurt and loses ONE year they can’t a 6th year

And if JJ, or any other player that played 4 games and redshirted under the new rules, gets hurt or loses a SECOND year due to off the field issues, he could be awarded a 6th year.
 
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BruinVol said:
If JJ, or any other player that played 4 games and redshirted under the new rule, gets hurt and loses ONE year they can’t a 6th year
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If he's a freshman when redshirting, then injured a whole separate year, then yes he can. If he took a regular redshirt any other year, no.

BruinVol said:
And if JJ, or any other player that played 4 games and redshirted under the new rules, gets hurt or loses a SECOND year due to off the field issues, he could be awarded a 6th year.
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Are you saying a player redshirts for no reason year 1, injured Y2, then injured Y3? Then yes, that would qualify as having lost 2 years outside of his control.
 
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Devo182 said:
If he's a freshman when redshirting, then injured a whole separate year, then yes he can. If he took a regular redshirt any other year, no.



Are you saying he redshirts for no reason 1 year, injured a 2nd year, then injured a 3rd year? Then yes, that would qualify as having lost 2 years outside of his control.
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I think he is assuming that if a kid doesn’t play his first year they are automatically given a redshirt.... guess he doesn’t know how it works....
 
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