'22 GA EDGE Darren Agu (Vandy commit)

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RobertPellitt said:
You do understand he was going to Notre Dame and the commuted to Vanderbilt because of their coach. This is not that unexpected. Calm down a bit.
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All the man said is that’s not something he expected to see. And he’s right. 3 days ago, absolutely no one on this board thought there was a chance Agu would stick with Vandy. Just scroll back a few pages. I mentioned it as a possibility and people laughed.
 
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VFL92 said:
All the man said is that’s not something he expected to see. And he’s right. 3 days ago, absolutely no one on this board thought there was a chance Agu would stick with Vandy. Just scroll back a few pages. I mentioned it as a possibility and people laughed.
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Well he should have expected it. It was very clear to everyone that has a brain stem. Chill out this is not the end of the world.
 
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UTMVol76 said:
Not puffing my chest out, but I posted on here a few days ago that this was a possibility. Not hard to add up.
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It doesn’t take a genius to understand the difficulty of flipping a player that turned down Notre Dame for Vanderbilt because the coach left. You should t be puffing your chest … everyone knew that.
 
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RobertPellitt said:
You do understand he was going to Notre Dame and the commuted to Vanderbilt because of their coach....
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Who is this coach who puts Garner in the shade? Let me guess. His name is Benjamins B. Goode.

I really kinda feel bad for Agu if he picks the commode doors. I thought he liked football.
 
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Orange. said:
Who is this coach who puts Garner in the shade? Let me guess. His name is Benjamins B. Goode.

I really kinda feel bad for Agu if he picks the commode doors. I thought he liked football.
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It’s actually Clark Lea. Just because he likes him it doesn’t need to be immoral. It’s just a personal connection. Not really a big deal. Let it go.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
We do? We have Josephs and….? Pearce is choosing not to sign in December because he wants more options. Agu literally is choosing Vandy over us. Who are our other options?
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Jared Verse? I don’t get this meltdown at all.. we’re signing 20-21 guys Wednesday plus a transfer or 2 that’ll be here in January. There’ll be quite a few guys that don’t sign and we’ll have spots for them in February for the actual NSD. Not to mention the transfer portal is gonna be wide open up until late spring. Step away from the ledge man. Did you expect them to fill the class before the new year?
 
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VOLUNTEERSZN said:
Jared Verse? I don’t get this meltdown at all.. we’re signing 20-21 guys Wednesday plus a transfer or 2 that’ll be here in January. There’ll be quite a few guys that don’t sign and we’ll have spots for them in February for the actual NSD. Not to mention the transfer portal is gonna be wide open up until late spring. Step away from the ledge man. Did you expect them to fill the class before the new year?
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We all have to be realistic here. Is the sky falling? No.

But is it also disappointing and surprising to many of us if we strike out on M’ba, Agu, West and Nolen? Yes, especially with Garner’s reputation.

Both can be true.
 
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VFL92 said:
Turns out it’s harder to recruit defensive players when you’re in a system that requires the defense to be on the field for 45+ minutes per game.
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This statement has no merit whatsoever. It is a tired narrative, and if it were true, Banks wouldn’t have even been considered for the Broyles Award.
 
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VFL92 said:
We all have to be realistic here. Is the sky falling? No.

But is it also disappointing and surprising to many of us if we strike out on M’ba, Agu, West and Nolen? Yes, especially with Garner’s reputation.

Both can be true.
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So what if he lands Moten in February, grabs a stud DT out of the portal and then gets Vic Burley in the boat early for 2023? (because that’s looking very likely) will the tone change then?

Y’all act like we’re in derperate need for DTs. We have one of the best interior DL rooms in the country and a lot of them are still very young. Big O and Dajon Terry are studs. Jordan Phillips will be a good football player for us. We haven’t even seen Dominic Bailey yet and he was a top 200 guy.. dude might end up being a good player when he gets on the field eventually. Same with Eason who’s putting the weight on to play there
 
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MrVolton said:
This statement has no merit whatsoever. It is a tired narrative, and if it were true, Banks wouldn’t have even been considered for the Broyles Award.
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That’s off topic. Banks’ consideration for the Broyles Award has absolutely nothing to do with our current recruiting. I’m not saying he can’t coach. I’m not saying we can’t be good on defense. I’m saying 2 things are factually true, and have merit:

1. We’re having a harder time recruiting defensive players than offensive players.
2. Garner is having a harder time recruiting here than he did at Auburn.

Those are the current facts. Personally, I believe our up-tempo offense has something to do with that. That was a concern many Vol fans had at the time of Huepel’s hiring. I still believe in CJH and think he’s great for our program. But this is our reality and a battle we’ll constantly face, IMO.
 
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VOLUNTEERSZN said:
So what if he lands Moten in February, grabs a stud DT out of the portal and then gets Vic Burley in the boat early for 2023? (because that’s looking very likely) will the tone change then?

Y’all act like we’re in derperate need for DTs. We have one of the best interior DL rooms in the country and a lot of them are still very young. Big O and Dajon Terry are studs. Jordan Phillips will be a good football player for us. We haven’t even seen Dominic Bailey yet and he was a top 200 guy.. dude might end up being a good player when he gets on the field eventually. Same with Eason who’s putting the weight on to play there
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Of course the tone will change then! We’re all still pulling for the guy. We haven’t written his obituary.
 
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I gotta say, this kid is really loyal if he goes to Vandy. To commit to play for Lea at Notre Dame is one thing. To remain committed to play for Lea at Vandy is another. Will Lea make last long enough to see this kid graduate? I doubt it.
 
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VFL92 said:
That’s off topic. Banks’ consideration for the Broyles Award has absolutely nothing to do with our current recruiting. I’m not saying he can’t coach. I’m not saying we can’t be good on defense. I’m saying 2 things are factually true, and have merit:

1. We’re having a harder time recruiting defensive players than offensive players.
2. Garner is having a harder time recruiting here than he did at Auburn.

Those are the current facts. Personally, I believe our up-tempo offense has something to do with that. That was a concern many Vol fans had at the time of Huepel’s hiring. I still believe in CJH and think he’s great for our program. But this is our reality and a battle we’ll constantly face, IMO.
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Banks being considered for the Broyles shows that anyone with any kind of football IQ can look past things like skewed defensive stats to recognize a good product.

I believe the uptempo offense is the only reason we won 7 games this year and are getting more attention from offensive recruits. Any struggles we are having in defensive recruiting or recruiting in general has a whole lot to do with opposing coaches bringing up the specter of NCAA sanctions and weak @$$ NIL deals on our part, and very little -if any- to do with uptempo offense.
 
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VOLUNTEERSZN said:
So what if he lands Moten in February, grabs a stud DT out of the portal and then gets Vic Burley in the boat early for 2023? (because that’s looking very likely) will the tone change then?

Y’all act like we’re in derperate need for DTs. We have one of the best interior DL rooms in the country and a lot of them are still very young. Big O and Dajon Terry are studs. Jordan Phillips will be a good football player for us. We haven’t even seen Dominic Bailey yet and he was a top 200 guy.. dude might end up being a good player when he gets on the field eventually. Same with Eason who’s putting the weight on to play there
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Elijah Simmons too.

I thought Eason was going to play SDE?
 
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volfaninpa said:
I gotta say, this kid is really loyal if he goes to Vandy. To commit to play for Lea at Notre Dame is one thing. To remain committed to play for Lea at Vandy is another. Will Lea make last long enough to see this kid graduate? I doubt it.
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a chance to get that education paid for would be hard to turn down.
 
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VFL92 said:
We all have to be realistic here. Is the sky falling? No.

But is it also disappointing and surprising to many of us if we strike out on M’ba, Agu, West and Nolen? Yes, especially with Garner’s reputation.

Both can be true.
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Do you people really not understand that we’re recruiting against an active NCAA investigation?
 
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VFL92 said:
That’s off topic. Banks’ consideration for the Broyles Award has absolutely nothing to do with our current recruiting. I’m not saying he can’t coach. I’m not saying we can’t be good on defense. I’m saying 2 things are factually true, and have merit:

1. We’re having a harder time recruiting defensive players than offensive players.
2. Garner is having a harder time recruiting here than he did at Auburn.

Those are the current facts. Personally, I believe our up-tempo offense has something to do with that. That was a concern many Vol fans had at the time of Huepel’s hiring. I still believe in CJH and think he’s great for our program. But this is our reality and a battle we’ll constantly face, IMO.
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The complete FACTS on Garner's recruiting won't be in till maybe fall camp. Two signing days and the portal still in front of us. We have 7-8 spots left in the 25 initial allotment and not sure how many replacements we have coming with the new portal rules. We have no idea where any of these HS guys we have been dancing with ranked on our war room wall. Heck we don't really know what the preferred distribution by position is and how many slots CJH gave him. Let's sit back and let some of this play out. It is possible that we pushed less on some HS guys based on position need and portal probabilities, but you still smile and take pictures on their visits. We are not yet where we can simply take best athlete regardless of position like those established upper tier programs. What I would give to be a fly on the wall in that war room.
 
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Actually impressive if he really is that loyal to Lea. Hard to find kids like that these days. I’m sure Lea put on him the guilt trip and the man your all we got in this class type stuff. I don’t count Garner out until signature if he wants something bad enough. I don’t know if this is that type of instance but we have seen first hand the stuff he pulled on us in this 3 day window where we thought we had a kid
 
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