'20 GA QB Harrison Bailey (UT SIGNEE)

[1vol8]

I think JG is scared to to turn the ball over so he commits less turnovers and that's why he gets the nod. I know he looked pitiful Saturday in regards to ball security. In my opinion he was responsible for all the turnovers Saturday. And one that didn't count. As far as the "consistency" thing goes, we only have the information they give us to go off of. Maurer did look really good in the drives he was in until the picks happened. There is a lot we don't see so I guess we just have to trust the coaches.

It’s easy to say “trust the coaches” because they are the ones making millions to be better than us at evaluation. And I would even agree with that if they stuck to their specialties. Which Pruitt has proven he is not. I’m sorry. I trust our Heisman winning qb and QBs coach with qb evaluation more than I do a defensive coordinator HC. Weinke has been quoted saying Maurer has the “it” factor. That’s the highest praise a qb can receive from a coach because it’s so rare. Hes also been quoted saying there haven’t been many ints throughout camp. Both comments are the exact opposite of anything we’ve heard from Pruitt. So who do we believe?

Plus idk about you or anyone else but after that performance with JG this past weekend, I’m about sick of the word “consistency” being used to back up his obsession with starting him. Any one of the other QBs could go out there and turn the ball over 3-4 times. But at least they’ll do it trying to win.

 

[VolSummitt44]

It’s easy to say “trust the coaches” because they are the ones making millions to be better than us at evaluation. And I would even agree with that if they stuck to their specialties. Which Pruitt has proven he is not. I’m sorry. I trust our Heisman winning qb and QBs coach with qb evaluation more than I do a defensive coordinator HC. Weinke has been quoted saying Maurer has the “it” factor. That’s the highest praise a qb can receive from a coach because it’s so rare. Hes also been quoted saying there haven’t been many ints throughout camp. Both comments are the exact opposite of anything we’ve heard from Pruitt. So who do we believe?

Plus idk about you or anyone else but after that performance with JG this past weekend, I’m about sick of the word “consistency” being used to back up his obsession with starting him. Any one of the other QBs could go out there and turn the ball over 3-4 times. But at least they’ll do it trying to win.

Sounds to me like you just don't want JG in there. That's fine though I'm not knocking the opinion. After that last game I won't be defending him anymore. I think it's time to try someone else.

As far as trusting the coaches it's not easy to say after last week but I've decided that's what I'm going to do. Besides you only have one other option, whine and complain about the lineup on a message board. We both know that's not going to change who they have starting.

 

[1vol8]

Sounds to me like you just don't want JG in there. That's fine though I'm not knocking the opinion. After that last game I won't be defending him anymore. I think it's time to try someone else.

As far as trusting the coaches it's not easy to say after last week but I've decided that's what I'm going to do. Besides you only have one other option, whine and complain about the lineup on a message board. We both know that's not going to change who they have starting.

No doubt. Won’t change a thing. But yes you’re right. I don’t want him in there anymore. I’ve actually been one of the ones that was rooting for the kid. Still am, but comparing last season to this first game..... it wasn’t just “rust”. He’s just simply not where CJP says he is and I can’t defend him anymore either. I actually think he’s shown us enough to be 3rd on the DC. I feel like if you’re going to try someone different, go with the one with the most upside and that’s BM.

 

[snowvols]

I don’t have his final numbers and I didn’t get a chance to go to the game tonight. I do know the Marietta Daily Journal reported he threw for 270 and 3 tds tonight as Marietta beat a good Collins Hill team 28-9. There was a long power outage during the game due to a car accident outside the stadium.

 

[UTK]

I don't know this for a fact or anything but Vols need to make a bowl game to keep this guy imo.

 

[mccrackb]

I don't know this for a fact or anything but Vols need to make a bowl game to keep this guy imo.

There is no way this team is going to make a bowl game with JG back there. The last three games we have been embarrassed by Mizzou and Vandy, then Ga state beat us. Maybe Pruitt doesn’t sit him because he knows he’ll just whine on the sidelines, wouldn’t be the first time.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

I don't know this for a fact or anything but Vols need to make a bowl game to keep this guy imo.

I do not think that is correct.

 

[UTK]

There is no way this team is going to make a bowl game with JG back there. The last three games we have been embarrassed by Mizzou and Vandy, then Ga state beat us. Maybe Pruitt doesn’t sit him because he knows he’ll just whine on the sidelines, wouldn’t be the first time.

If you're gonna criticize, criticize all that deserve it and stop signaling out one guy.

 

[mccrackb]

If you're gonna criticize, criticize all that deserve it and stop signaling out one guy.

Yeah, why wouldn’t you criticize the one guy who has the ball every play? Have you been playing any good video games lately?

 

[PeytonPass]

No doubt. Won’t change a thing. But yes you’re right. I don’t want him in there anymore. I’ve actually been one of the ones that was rooting for the kid. Still am, but comparing last season to this first game..... it wasn’t just “rust”. He’s just simply not where CJP says he is and I can’t defend him anymore either. I actually think he’s shown us enough to be 3rd on the DC. I feel like if you’re going to try someone different, go with the one with the most upside and that’s BM.

If JG gets benched and BM plays well, how does that affect Baileys thinking? What seems like one year of waiting tops for Bailey to step in, May then look totally different.

 

[appvol]

I would say Bailey knows he can beat out who ever the QB is.

 

[1vol8]

I would say Bailey knows he can beat out who ever the QB is.

That depends on who is evaluating. Until SOMEONE with that opinion can point out ONE area that HB is “better” I’ll continue to assume you’re assuming based on the ranking comparisons only. (Which btw had JG the #1 DT in his class and BM a pocket passer. )

 

[UTK]

Yeah, why wouldn’t you criticize the one guy who has the ball every play? Have you been playing any good video games lately?

JG didn't play well but there's about 10 more concerns that are bigger than JG if you watched last week's game. That's all I'm saying. And JG doesn't have the ball every play btw. There's a whole phase called defense which gave up 38 points and got pushed around like toddlers.

 

[1vol8]

If JG gets benched and BM plays well, how does that affect Baileys thinking? What seems like one year of waiting tops for Bailey to step in, May then look totally different.

I’m actually thinking that’s a possibility of why they are so critical every time he misses a pass. They need a reason to keep him off the field without backlash of the fan base in order to keep HB. There’s also the possibility that they just simply want to preserve his RS. But regardless of what some think HB is not BETTER than BM. Tgeyre just different.

 

[InVOLuntary]

JG didn't play well but there's about 10 more concerns that are bigger than JG if you watched last week's game. That's all I'm saying. And JG doesn't have the ball every play btw. There's a whole phase called defense which gave up 38 points and got pushed around like toddlers.

Assessing blame to any one player, coach or staff is stupid. With few exceptions the whole team sucked. Coaches too. Placing the blame at jg's hands really means that some blame him for not overcoming the ineptitude of the rest.

 

[vols 30]

JG didn't play well but there's about 10 more concerns that are bigger than JG if you watched last week's game. That's all I'm saying. And JG doesn't have the ball every play btw. There's a whole phase called defense which gave up 38 points and got pushed around like toddlers.

No way there is 10 more. He is the top problem on offense. I know the "blame everything including World hunger on the O-line" crowd doesn't like it, but JG is equally as bad if not worse.

Order of ineptitude -
Coaching
Defensive line
QB

 

[Lloyd_Christmas]

JG didn't play well but there's about 10 more concerns that are bigger than JG if you watched last week's game. That's all I'm saying. And JG doesn't have the ball every play btw. There's a whole phase called defense which gave up 38 points and got pushed around like toddlers.

They don't want to hear that. You've got a group of fans that are going to blame JG when everything goes wrong and will look for tiny things to blame him for when everything pretty much goes right. He ain't perfect. I personally think a fear of turning the ball over and some anxiety from getting the sh** beat out of him because of his poor o-line has kept him from cutting loose and just playing ball. To the o-line's credit, they definitely gave him more time to throw than what we saw from them last season. Despite him not playing a great game, you can easily make the argument that him throwing the ball was the only thing that really moved the offense. We had no run game against GA State and couldn't stop the run. You struggle to win most games when that happens. JG was certainly not the person to blame for that game. The entire team gets the blame. Just an overall lack of urgency or concern from most of the team...really since the Kentucky game. Something broke and we can only hope that guys like Jauan Jennings, Trey, Warrior and Bituli can fix it.

 

[Lloyd_Christmas]

No way there is 10 more. He is the top problem on offense. I know the "blame everything including World hunger on the O-line" crowd doesn't like it, but JG is equally as bad if not worse.

Order of ineptitude -
Coaching
Defensive line
QB

The offense had no running game. That JG's fault? Him throwing the ball was the only thing really moving the offense. Yes, he could've played A LOT better...but you're crazy if you think he's the main problem. We need to be able to run the f'ing ball.

 

[LittleVol]

JG didn't play well but there's about 10 more concerns that are bigger than JG if you watched last week's game. That's all I'm saying. And JG doesn't have the ball every play btw. There's a whole phase called defense which gave up 38 points and got pushed around like toddlers.

This has been explained many many times.
Defense is driectly connected to offense and special teams.
Ex: Turnover deep in our own territory. Defense out comes already with their backs against the wall.
Ex 2: QB turns the ball over 4 times. That's 4 EXTRA times the defense has to try and get a stop with no offense points on the board from those 4 drives.

 

[butchna]

I’m actually thinking that’s a possibility of why they are so critical every time he misses a pass. They need a reason to keep him off the field without backlash of the fan base in order to keep HB. There’s also the possibility that they just simply want to preserve his RS. But regardless of what some think HB is not BETTER than BM. Tgeyre just different.

They’re all opinions.

 

[JacketVol]

That depends on who is evaluating. Until SOMEONE with that opinion can point out ONE area that HB is “better” I’ll continue to assume you’re assuming based on the ranking comparisons only. (Which btw had JG the #1 DT in his class and BM a pocket passer. )

I have watched HB play. He will beat out anyone. Great awareness and arm and mentality. He is our future if healthy. But, I expect Mauer to push him and Bailey to push Mauer. Don't sleep on Shroud either.

 

[1vol8]

They’re all opinions.

Every single one. With no backbone.

 

[butchna]

Every single one. With no backbone.

Even yours...or is that especially yours?

 

[1vol8]

The offense had no running game. That JG's fault? Him throwing the ball was the only thing really moving the offense. Yes, he could've played A LOT better...but you're crazy if you think he's the main problem. We need to be able to run the f'ing ball.

Actually it plays a huge part of not being able to run the ball. When you have a qb with a history of taking the easy completions accompanied with a HC that likes conservative play on offense it presents a loaded box against the run as well.

 

[1vol8]

Even yours...or is that especially yours?

Little do you know. Very few on here if any have seen them both play live. Which means you may consider taking the one who has as a little more than just opinion.