‘23 GA S Jack Luttrell (Tennessee transfer)

[UTMVol76]

Could also be that everyone knows he’s locked down here. And for anyone wanting to dump this kid, he’s the glue guy of this class.

 

[LittleVol]

Could also be that everyone knows he’s locked down here. And for anyone wanting to dump this kid, he’s the glue guy of this class.

I'm talking about the other safety.

His teammate.

 

[LittleVol]

Appare

According to his twitter, he’s just had an offer from Valdosta St. I’d say he’ll def pick up some traction on the trail. But the lack of major offers is prob indicative of an issue with his measurables. Maybe speed? Could be wrong just speculating. Playing at Colquitt I doubt it’s just an under the radar thing.

Did you watch any of those videos i posted?

Luttrell has pretty good tape overall. This year, not just last year. At least his 1st 4 games anyway.

But it's not as good as Thomas's.
Doubt it's measurables because he's
6'1 200 and covers a ton of ground.

I've been to St John Bosco vs Kahuka this year. I've seen Nico play twice this season.
Then just regular watching highlights. Watched Thompson play Buford, GA on TV.
NONE of those teams had a guy like I'm seeing from Lyric Thomas at safety.

Yeah it has to be grades...


He's the best player on that team, that has an SEC committ at safety beside him.

 

[benholt06]

Did you watch any of those videos i posted?

Luttrell has pretty good tape overall. This year, not just last year. At least his 1st 4 games anyway.

But it's not as good as Thomas's.
Doubt it's measurables because he's
6'1 200 and covers a ton of ground.

I've been to St John Bosco vs Kahuka this year. I've seen Nico play twice this season.
Then just regular watching highlights. Watched Thompson play Buford, GA on TV.
NONE of those teams had a guy like I'm seeing from Lyric Thomas at safety.

Yeah it has to be grades...


He's the best player on that team, that has an SEC committ at safety beside him.

It could be grades but I’d think he’d be seeing more offers if that was the case. If the kid can pass his classes to play football somebody would take him. It’s not always easy to discern a 4.7 safety from a 4.4 safety on tape, especially if the former is smart and knows how to use positioning and angles to make plays. Again I’m not saying that’s it, but it’s something. Guys can be dominant HS players and just have something missing.

 

[LittleVol]

It could be grades but I’d think he’d be seeing more offers if that was the case. If the kid can pass his classes to play football somebody would take him. It’s not always easy to discern a 4.7 safety from a 4.4 safety on tape, especially if the former is smart and knows how to use positioning and angles to make plays. Again I’m not saying that’s it, but it’s something. Guys can be dominant HS players and just have something missing.

All that's true enough.

I guess we'll see.

If it's true that Smith is looking at Auburn still, then I really hope we give this kid a look.

E-man Moseley dropped a 4.3 40 at UT camp. Dominated all season long at 140 lbs for Dudley HS.. Then UT finally offered him. His only offer before that was Charlotte.

I really hope his grades are in order and he's just being slept on.

I guess we'll see.

 

[sjt18]

UT is reaching a point where they don't have to take chances on good players with marginal grades or character.

 

[swchandler1988]

Did you watch any of those videos i posted?

Luttrell has pretty good tape overall. This year, not just last year. At least his 1st 4 games anyway.

But it's not as good as Thomas's.
Doubt it's measurables because he's
6'1 200 and covers a ton of ground.

I've been to St John Bosco vs Kahuka this year. I've seen Nico play twice this season.
Then just regular watching highlights. Watched Thompson play Buford, GA on TV.
NONE of those teams had a guy like I'm seeing from Lyric Thomas at safety.

Yeah it has to be grades...


He's the best player on that team, that has an SEC committ at safety beside him.

Why are you going through the list of our commits/prospects and dogging them? First Boo Carter, then Seldon, now Luttrell. Just because there isn’t anything happening every day on the recruiting trail doesn’t mean you have to stir up sh*t just because. None of us are recruiting analysts. If the coaches accepted his commitment then that’s good enough for now

 

[therickbol]

UT is reaching a point where they don't have to take chances on good players with marginal grades or character.

Finally...thank goodness!

 

[sjt18]

There are folks here who think they can watch highlight videos (not film) and determine whether a player is any good or not.

UT signed Chaz Nimrod last class. He was rated the #7 player in Arkansas... a state without a ton of people or prospects. It doesn't appear he was seriously recruited by any other SEC program to include Arkansas. If UT doesn't sign him then his other serious considerations were to Illinois, K-State, Utah St, and Wazzou. Yet reports from the program suggest he's going to be a very good receiver.... that he maybe even out shined higher rated guys in the spring.

Elijah Herring was supposedly taken just to get his brother... yet he's carved out playing time for the Vols and has earned the praise of coaches and players.

Kalib Perry visited UT, Purdue, and Cincinnati. Wasn't heavily recruited. Has earned his way onto special teams and is making plays.


I have always believed that "The Guy" for UT would be someone who could coach players up and find more than his share of "diamonds in the rough". For me... this staff has earned confidence that they know what they want in a recruit... that they aren't wasting scholarships or chasing "stars" that never look better than NSD.

 

[UTMVol76]

There are folks here who think they can watch highlight videos (not film) and determine whether a player is any good or not.

UT signed Chaz Nimrod last class. He was rated the #7 player in Arkansas... a state without a ton of people or prospects. It doesn't appear he was seriously recruited by any other SEC program to include Arkansas. If UT doesn't sign him then his other serious considerations were to Illinois, K-State, Utah St, and Wazzou. Yet reports from the program suggest he's going to be a very good receiver.... that he maybe even out shined higher rated guys in the spring.

Elijah Herring was supposedly taken just to get his brother... yet he's carved out playing time for the Vols and has earned the praise of coaches and players.

Kalib Perry visited UT, Purdue, and Cincinnati. Wasn't heavily recruited. Has earned his way onto special teams and is making plays.


I have always believed that "The Guy" for UT would be someone who could coach players up and find more than his share of "diamonds in the rough". For me... this staff has earned confidence that they know what they want in a recruit... that they aren't wasting scholarships or chasing "stars" that never look better than NSD.

Like for the Heupel bump

 

[GUNTERSVOL]

There are folks here who think they can watch highlight videos (not film) and determine whether a player is any good or not.

UT signed Chaz Nimrod last class. He was rated the #7 player in Arkansas... a state without a ton of people or prospects. It doesn't appear he was seriously recruited by any other SEC program to include Arkansas. If UT doesn't sign him then his other serious considerations were to Illinois, K-State, Utah St, and Wazzou. Yet reports from the program suggest he's going to be a very good receiver.... that he maybe even out shined higher rated guys in the spring.

Elijah Herring was supposedly taken just to get his brother... yet he's carved out playing time for the Vols and has earned the praise of coaches and players.

Kalib Perry visited UT, Purdue, and Cincinnati. Wasn't heavily recruited. Has earned his way onto special teams and is making plays.


I have always believed that "The Guy" for UT would be someone who could coach players up and find more than his share of "diamonds in the rough". For me... this staff has earned confidence that they know what they want in a recruit... that they aren't wasting scholarships or chasing "stars" that never look better than NSD.

I do believe when coming up off the mat that we targeted and signed some guys due to evaluations indicating that though they may not arrive ready to go, but had a mix of tangibles and intangibles that gave them a shot to get there. In the old days one of the recruiting services used to indicate that a 5 star should arrive ready, 4 stars should be on the field by year 2 and lower would take time and development and probably had a higher risk of not ever getting there. Red shirting was a goal for lots of guys not that long ago. Expectations have increased in our new NCAA order. But some still think of the star rating as a ceiling, not a starting place of capability.... regardless of maturity level and development potential. NFL draft tells us that is not the case as more 3 and lower stars get drafted than 4 stars lots of years when every class has 250 to 300 4&5 stars to cover the entire draft. Those guys can't fill holes as quick but they get 4 years to max out.

 

[sjt18]

I do believe when coming up off the mat that we targeted and signed some guys due to evaluations indicating that though they may not arrive ready to go, but had a mix of tangibles and intangibles that gave them a shot to get there. In the old days one of the recruiting services used to indicate that a 5 star should arrive ready, 4 stars should be on the field by year 2 and lower would take time and development and probably had a higher risk of not ever getting there. Red shirting was a goal for lots of guys not that long ago. Expectations have increased in our new NCAA order. But some still think of the star rating as a ceiling, not a starting place of capability.... regardless of maturity level and development potential. NFL draft tells us that is not the case as more 3 and lower stars get drafted than 4 stars lots of years when every class has 250 to 300 4&5 stars to cover the entire draft. Those guys can't fill holes as quick but they get 4 years to max out.

Jones paid a lot of attention the the recruiting rankings.

I hope the current staff never does. I hope they evaluate for themselves and continue to bring in guys they can develop.

 

[GUNTERSVOL]

Jones paid a lot of attention the the recruiting rankings.

I hope the current staff never does. I hope they evaluate for themselves and continue to bring in guys they can develop.

I guess the big variable is that we have got to recruit to what we do and can get guys to fit our schemes that would not max out for Bama or GA. Don't know how many of our OL would start for GA, but execute our offense pretty well.... probably better than the guys in red. Our run blocking schemes and OL assignments are just different to not tip run/pass as quick as firing off the ball. Defensive skill is more common to every team, and shutdown corners are valuable to every team around. The better the better.

 

[peaygolf]

Jones paid a lot of attention the the recruiting rankings.

I hope the current staff never does. I hope they evaluate for themselves and continue to bring in guys they can develop.

that will trigger some on VN. Lots of “stargazers”

 

[bigl3327]

Jones paid a lot of attention the the recruiting rankings.

I hope the current staff never does. I hope they evaluate for themselves and continue to bring in guys they can develop.

That is their DNA. They have the utmost confidence in their own evaluations and ability to develop. They are also not distracted by outside noise (good or bad). That type of quiet bravado is impressive by an entire staff. You have to give huge props to Heupel and the way he's managed everything from top to bottom.

 

[SweetasSoda]

There are folks here who think they can watch highlight videos (not film) and determine whether a player is any good or not.

UT signed Chaz Nimrod last class. He was rated the #7 player in Arkansas... a state without a ton of people or prospects. It doesn't appear he was seriously recruited by any other SEC program to include Arkansas. If UT doesn't sign him then his other serious considerations were to Illinois, K-State, Utah St, and Wazzou. Yet reports from the program suggest he's going to be a very good receiver.... that he maybe even out shined higher rated guys in the spring.

Elijah Herring was supposedly taken just to get his brother... yet he's carved out playing time for the Vols and has earned the praise of coaches and players.

Kalib Perry visited UT, Purdue, and Cincinnati. Wasn't heavily recruited. Has earned his way onto special teams and is making plays.


I have always believed that "The Guy" for UT would be someone who could coach players up and find more than his share of "diamonds in the rough". For me... this staff has earned confidence that they know what they want in a recruit... that they aren't wasting scholarships or chasing "stars" that never look better than NSD.

Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.

 

[benholt06]

I can’t speak for everyone here, but I don’t think anybody doesn’t think Jack is a really good player or isn’t rooting for him. He does have solid tape and the level of comp he plays at is unassailable.

Jack was one of our first commits of this class, he’s been committed since before we ripped off an 8-0 start, beat the reigning ACC champs on the road, our bogey team the Gators, a handful of other ranked opponents, and most of all the Bammers.

The services have caught on now, and many of our recruits have received the "Heupel bump", because our staff has absolutely earned all benefit of the doubt in their evaluations and all other things, yet Luttrell has not received such a bump in the rankings.

It’s ok to wonder about his size. It’s ok to wonder about whether he has a verified 40 time to dispel the rumor he ran a 4.85 at a camp. It’s ok to wonder if the staff still believes Jack is SEC safety material, or if he’s being kept on for other reasons, like his peer recruiting or maybe they see the same versatility in him I do, maybe he could play WR.

It’s also contextually important to remember that while maybe scheme has dictated this, and yes they’ve been improving each week, but our secondary has been by far the weakest link for us so far this year.

It doesn’t make you a bad Vol to have discussions like this. I find it funny the things that are said about the kids (often literally children) who don’t come here, but the second someone utters a word about a commit that could be remotely interpreted as negative, here come the pitchforks. There are some questions around the current circumstances of Jack’s recruitment. It’s ok to not ignore them.

All this being said I genuinely hope he comes here and balls tf out, and is the next Harrison Smith.

My genuine apologies to the “Never question anything" crowd.

TLDR

 

[sreveisVol]

@LA Vol has mentioned a few times recently about how this staff and DW require an all-in culture and are loyal.

I like to think that CJH takes that to recruiting as well. Reward a guy for earning an offer early, sticking to his commitment, peer recruiting and coming to a lot of games. If he doesn’t play and wants to, then the staff will help him transfer to a school where playing time is more available. Then ‘24 class you can be selective on early commits.

 

[LittleVol]

Why are you going through the list of our commits/prospects and dogging them? First Boo Carter, then Seldon, now Luttrell. Just because there isn’t anything happening every day on the recruiting trail doesn’t mean you have to stir up sh*t just because. None of us are recruiting analysts. If the coaches accepted his commitment then that’s good enough for now

When did I dog Boo??

I haven't dogged anyone at all!!

You just trying to start crap.
Gtfo...

 

[LittleVol]

There are folks here who think they can watch highlight videos (not film) and determine whether a player is any good or not.

UT signed Chaz Nimrod last class. He was rated the #7 player in Arkansas... a state without a ton of people or prospects. It doesn't appear he was seriously recruited by any other SEC program to include Arkansas. If UT doesn't sign him then his other serious considerations were to Illinois, K-State, Utah St, and Wazzou. Yet reports from the program suggest he's going to be a very good receiver.... that he maybe even out shined higher rated guys in the spring.

Elijah Herring was supposedly taken just to get his brother... yet he's carved out playing time for the Vols and has earned the praise of coaches and players.

Kalib Perry visited UT, Purdue, and Cincinnati. Wasn't heavily recruited. Has earned his way onto special teams and is making plays.


I have always believed that "The Guy" for UT would be someone who could coach players up and find more than his share of "diamonds in the rough". For me... this staff has earned confidence that they know what they want in a recruit... that they aren't wasting scholarships or chasing "stars" that never look better than NSD.

True enough.

But have you known me to be a stargazer???

Who called Leacock a 4 star before he became one??
Who called Weathersby a 4 star before he became one?
Who called Gibson a 4 star before he became one?
Who called Jalen Smtih a 4 star before he became one?

Hey, all these other sheep that just want to argue can have that! But you know I'm not some stargazer that wants to kick off a dude because he's not ranked high enough

 

[LittleVol]

Why are you going through the list of our commits/prospects and dogging them? First Boo Carter, then Seldon, now Luttrell. Just because there isn’t anything happening every day on the recruiting trail doesn’t mean you have to stir up sh*t just because. None of us are recruiting analysts. If the coaches accepted his commitment then that’s good enough for now

And i have recruited players before!

Don't talk anything about what you don't know!!

And stop speaking things THAT I HAVEN'T SAID.
DS...

 

[sjt18]

True enough.

But have you known me to be a stargazer???

Who called Leacock a 4 star before he became one??
Who called Weathersby a 4 star before he became one?
Who called Gibson a 4 star before he became one?
Who called Jalen Smtih a 4 star before he became one?

Hey, all these other sheep that just want to argue can have that! But you know I'm not some stargazer that wants to kick off a dude because he's not ranked high enough

My main point is that this staff has earned at least some degree of deference. They aren't stargazers either. But they know how to see talent and develop it. If they think Luttrell can be a quality SEC safety... I'll buy.

Folks who watch highlight videos and then want to make declarations about someone the staff may not want being better than someone they obviously do want... I think those folks have an issue.

I'm not talking about blind trust either. There were several Jones 4* recruits who weren't even FCS quality talents. He didn't earn the trust that he knew how to find or develop talent. I really don't think you can argue that about the current staff.

 

[MarcoVol]

My main point is that this staff has earned at least some degree of deference. They aren't stargazers either. But they know how to see talent and develop it. If they think Luttrell can be a quality SEC safety... I'll buy.

Folks who watch highlight videos and then want to make declarations about someone the staff may not want being better than someone they obviously do want... I think those folks have an issue.

Yeah but he has “recruited players before”

 

[sjt18]

I guess the big variable is that we have got to recruit to what we do and can get guys to fit our schemes that would not max out for Bama or GA. Don't know how many of our OL would start for GA, but execute our offense pretty well.... probably better than the guys in red. Our run blocking schemes and OL assignments are just different to not tip run/pass as quick as firing off the ball. Defensive skill is more common to every team, and shutdown corners are valuable to every team around. The better the better.

IMO... very strong opinion... UT's OL's would stand a very good chance of starting for most SEC teams at their current levels of performance. These guys aren't just playing within a scheme. They're executing OL skills at a very high level that would translate to any other system. Schemes use those fundamental skills in different ways... but the fundamental things are the same and have to be done well for any scheme to work.

 

[sjt18]

And i have recruited players before!

Don't talk anything about what you don't know!!

And stop speaking things THAT I HAVEN'T SAID.
DS...

You'll take some abuse for that claim but not from me.

Accepting that you have then why are you trying to cast doubt on UT's staff when they've shown the ability to find and develop talent AND ESPECIALLY while knowing that they have hours of actual film on each recruit that you do not have?

If you recruited players using highlight videos then there's pretty close to a 100% probability you weren't very good at it.